Skipping the Main Oblivion Plotline

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Dana22 said:
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If you like oblivion you will enjoy Morrowind even more (if you can get past the older graphics).
And combat system. And bugs. And general clunkiness. But mainly the combat system.
The combat system's still better than Oblivion's.

And despite the bugs and clunkiness, it's still best RPG I've ever played. And if you can't see that this is purely a subjective post, then, well, you don't deserve to play Morrowind.

Ontopic, now.

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Should I finish the game? No, it's repetitive and boring

Did you finish the main plotline yourself? No, I haven't played that much of Oblivion.

Is the ending worth the hours put in? Nope.

What were your thoughts on the Main storyline as a whole? It's repetitive and boring, that's one of the biggest advantage Morrowind has over Oblivion.
If you liked Oblivion at all, you'll love Morrowind. Seriously, it's alot better.
 

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Denamic said:
SextusMaximus said:
Should I finish the game? (I'd say I'm approximately 40% through it) [br]
Did you finish the main plotline yourself?[br]
Is the ending worth the hours put in?[br]
What were your thoughts on the Main storyline as a whole?
1: Define 'finish'. I mean, it's like finishing a quest, except you get an 'ending'. You can just continue playing after it.
2: Yes... Once...
3: Not really. It sucks as much as the main plot.
4: It's horrid. One of the worst and most uninteresting plotlines I've ever come across.

What I like about Oblivion is the freedom to roam and do almost whatever you want to.
Also, modding. Some mods make you completely unable to even play vanilla Oblivion again.
They're THAT good.

Nowadays, when I pick up Oblivion, I just completely shun the main plot after I get out of the prison.
Which is immediately, as I always use a quickstart mod to completely skip it.
Finish as in, Should I finish the main quest line (until the ending / final boss battle)

And yes! The mods! After I re-installed Oblivion, I hopped on and right back off to get my Natural Environments back!
 

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PoisonUnagi said:
Dana22 said:
shticks said:
If you like oblivion you will enjoy Morrowind even more (if you can get past the older graphics).
And combat system. And bugs. And general clunkiness. But mainly the combat system.
The combat system's still better than Oblivion's.
Wait, what? Don't get me wrong, Morrowind was a great game, but the combat was atrocious. At least in Oblivion, I'd hit things. With Morrowind, any immersion you feel about the game world and massive amounts of lore they throw at you disappears when your sword whiffs through an enemy's body without doing any damage.

Yes, I know your post is subjective. But your opinion makes no sense, and using that as an excuse to weasel out of an argument is weak anyway.
 

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ALuckyChance said:
Actually, yes, your argument is flawed because I enjoy Portal and I haven't even beaten the game (at least, not legitimately). I know what Still Alive is, which only makes me like Portal more. A person does not have to finish a game to be a fan. In that case, nobody would ever be a fan of Civilization 4 or Simcity 4, and I think we all know how wrong that is.
You can finish a single game of Civ4 (and eventually see everything it's got, though that takes a LONG-ass time!), but indeed SimCity 4 (and the entire genre it's in) is Exhibit A for why games with a beginning, middle, and end are only part of the story.

I want to meet the person who beat The Sims.
 

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ALuckyChance said:
PoisonUnagi said:
Dana22 said:
shticks said:
If you like oblivion you will enjoy Morrowind even more (if you can get past the older graphics).
And combat system. And bugs. And general clunkiness. But mainly the combat system.
The combat system's still better than Oblivion's.
Wait, what? Don't get me wrong, Morrowind was a great game, but the combat was atrocious. At least in Oblivion, I'd hit things. With Morrowind, any immersion you feel about the game world and massive amounts of lore they throw at you disappears when your sword whiffs through an enemy's body without doing any damage.

Yes, I know your post is subjective. But your opinion makes no sense, and using that as an excuse to weasel out of an argument is weak anyway.
That's because you have no Fatigue when you swing at something. Stop running if you're getting close to enemies, that makes perfect sense. If you've just sprinted half the way across Vvardenfell and tried to hit something, chances are you won't hit it with every swing. And it's alot more immersive when your Fatigue decreases when you're running.

How does that make sense, though? You run at full speed, and get less tired?
 

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Hey man, swinging a sword is hard work. Anyway, the fatigue isn't really integral to the experience. All it does is make your fight longer than usual. Not to mention, your argument isn't really touching on the combat, but just the fatigue system in general.

Wait a minute, doesn't the same thing happen in Morrowind, with the fatigue thing? I haven't played it in a long while, so my memories are a slight bit hazy.
 

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I played Oblivion for ages and ages, but honestly, I never finished the campaign. I mean, Blegh, and I kept spazzing out about protecting friendlies who, just when their characters were being developed, would be made vulnerable.

So I bugged out and got a ton of mods. I became everything from a lich-lord to the most musclebound of meatshields. I fought creatures beyond anything in the original beastuary. But in all that time of play, I never finished the story. I always got into the mage's guild, but held off on finishing the all quests because I wanted to get higher-level free gear (I really just wanted to get to make my own spells, which I tended to name silly things like Lesser Bitchslap for a full-damage-spectrum-touch-spell). I went through the entirety of the Thieves guild quests, because they were moderately better made than the others (save the last bit which I mostly just ran though without attempting stealth or combat because there were just too bloody many of them and if one saw you, they all knew where you were and never lost track of you. Seriously, Fallout 3 has a much improved version of this system, and I hope they incorporate something similar in TES V whenever they get around to making it).

I used spend afternoons roving the countryside, hunting for rare alchemy ingredients. I had three bandit hideouts I rotated through, and the first would have repopulated by the time I finished looting the third, so I had a nice little system going for leveling and gear collection. On the whole, the melee combat was boring, and combat in general got predictable after awhile, but I kept finding new things to do, or extra sidequests to play, or a new mod to add on, so it was a quite enjoyable experience. I just never bothered to go past the mainstory mission where you're supposed to infiltrate some cave somewhere.

But to get to the point, you shouldn't consider finishing the main story as finishing the game, this is better played as an open world where you do what you please for as long as you can, and from what I've played and what I've read, the main story isn't that great anyway.
 

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SextusMaximus said:
*spits hot coffee on to the ground*
there is a main-plot to the game. I only play till the oblivion gates open then I join the mages guild and to all the task to access the university(I would try to become leader but my last games was ruined because I turned into a vampire and didn't get the quest to cure yourself so now I avoid all quests to do with vampires and if I do meet a vampire by random chance use cure disease on my self the whole way through the fight). then I just to random quests and the arena. I just completed the shivering isles (I got the game of the year edition not to long ago) and now I will properly to some of the missions till I have collected enough madness ore to make the full set of armour. I think the story is one of the smallest parts of oblivion and you to end up closing the oblivion gates meaning you don't get the stones that give weapons and armour magical abilities ( I one time used one on a dwarfen short sword and called it flaming dwarfs) (another one was a pirate short sword and gave it ice abilities which I called 'yarrrr this is frrreezing' but my friend said I should have called it 'shiver my timbers'). so in short don't complete the story line you lose the oblivion gates and as far as I know there is no upside to it apart from peace is restored to the kingdom.

Also, why did your friend try to get you banned from xbox live?
 

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PoisonUnagi said:
Dana22 said:
shticks said:
If you like oblivion you will enjoy Morrowind even more (if you can get past the older graphics).
And combat system. And bugs. And general clunkiness. But mainly the combat system.
The combat system's still better than Oblivion's.

And despite the bugs and clunkiness, it's still best RPG I've ever played. And if you can't see that this is purely a subjective post, then, well, you don't deserve to play Morrowind.

Ontopic, now.
Hehe, yes and my post wasn't subjective at all :D But its a discussion forum isn't it ?

Plus, I finished Morrowind and its expansions few times already, I think its better then Oblivion, but I rest my case anyway.
 

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If you've already gotten that far into the main quest, you may as well finish it. I never did. I think I did one portal and then discovered all the side quests and never went back to it. The guilds and the god shrines were awesome (Jabberwocky, ftw), as well as a random massacre here and there (reloading to before it after, of course). I just didn't really NEED the story for it to be fun so why bother doing it? It would just end the game and make all the fun go away. But, if you've already experienced all the extras, you might as well move on to the main bit as see what it has for you.
 

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Dana22 said:
PoisonUnagi said:
Dana22 said:
shticks said:
If you like oblivion you will enjoy Morrowind even more (if you can get past the older graphics).
And combat system. And bugs. And general clunkiness. But mainly the combat system.
The combat system's still better than Oblivion's.

And despite the bugs and clunkiness, it's still best RPG I've ever played. And if you can't see that this is purely a subjective post, then, well, you don't deserve to play Morrowind.

Ontopic, now.
Hehe, yes and my post wasn't subjective at all :D But its a discussion forum isn't it ?

Plus, I finished Morrowind and its expansions few times already, I think its better then Oblivion, but I rest my case anyway.
Well the combat system part is subjective. But there's no reason why anyone should follow my opinion on combat systems. Hell, I thought Daggerfall's one was fucking amazing. They made motion controls more accurate than the Wii in... hang on... 1996. Thanks, Wikipedia.

Obligatory winlink [http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org]
 

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SextusMaximus said:
A year and a half ago, my friend suggested a game called Oblivion, telling me it was one of their favourite games that if I didn't get it, I was essentially an outcast in the gaming world. He was a bit of a tosser and in the end he had a go at me trying to get me banned from Xbox... he failed and as to get back at him, I turned his friends against him... where was I going again?... Oh yeah! So a year ago I decided to buy the game anyway, despite my hatred for the person who recommended it, I'd heard good things and decided to give it a try.

I got back home and put the disc in my computer. After an hour, the game had been installed and I was ready to play. I LOVED this game, I played it again, and again, and again and again. But I didn't like the game for what it was trying to do, I hated the storyline, the combat, the speech system etc. What I loved, were the Guilds. The Assassins Guild, The Thieves Guild and The Arena were my favourites, and I also really enjoyed the side quests. But the main storyline was dire. It was incredibly boring and frankly too linear for my liking, the Oblivion portals were all the same - but with scaled levels etc.

I stopped playing the game a few months ago, but a few days ago, I had an urge to come back to it. I just fancied performing another murder, or completing another Mage quest. However I feel kind of shallow coming back to the game and not completing the story...

So:

Should I finish the game? (I'd say I'm approximately 40% through it) [br]
Did you finish the main plotline yourself?[br]
Is the ending worth the hours put in?[br]
What were your thoughts on the Main storyline as a whole?
The main storyline is when you become the master of every guild, gain a follower from each you can and go on a killing spree, later declaring yourself ruler of the masses, right? If so, yeah I done that.
 

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I clearly need to replay this game. Every single person who enjoyed it raves about the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood quest lines, and my goody-good paladin did basically everything but.

Oh, and the main quest was crap. It was also short and easy, so why not? The very end has a few semi-neat bits.
 

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SextusMaximus said:
A year and a half ago, my friend suggested a game called Oblivion, telling me it was one of their favourite games that if I didn't get it, I was essentially an outcast in the gaming world. He was a bit of a tosser and in the end he had a go at me trying to get me banned from Xbox... he failed and as to get back at him, I turned his friends against him... where was I going again?... Oh yeah! So a year ago I decided to buy the game anyway, despite my hatred for the person who recommended it, I'd heard good things and decided to give it a try.

I got back home and put the disc in my computer. After an hour, the game had been installed and I was ready to play. I LOVED this game, I played it again, and again, and again and again. But I didn't like the game for what it was trying to do, I hated the storyline, the combat, the speech system etc. What I loved, were the Guilds. The Assassins Guild, The Thieves Guild and The Arena were my favourites, and I also really enjoyed the side quests. But the main storyline was dire. It was incredibly boring and frankly too linear for my liking, the Oblivion portals were all the same - but with scaled levels etc.

I stopped playing the game a few months ago, but a few days ago, I had an urge to come back to it. I just fancied performing another murder, or completing another Mage quest. However I feel kind of shallow coming back to the game and not completing the story...

So:

Should I finish the game? (I'd say I'm approximately 40% through it) [br]
Did you finish the main plotline yourself?[br]
Is the ending worth the hours put in?[br]
What were your thoughts on the Main storyline as a whole?

yes as it as its good moments. besides don't you want to know how the end turns out.

yes

perhaps. it really depends if you enjoyed it. i did.

nicely done, a bit dreary but exciting enough.
 

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SextusMaximus said:
What I loved, were the Guilds. The Assassins Guild, The Thieves Guild and The Arena were my favourites, and I also really enjoyed the side quests.
I was the exact same way. I did the main quest once for the achievements on my old Gamertag, and never went back to it.

The Dark Brotherhood was easily my favorite part of that game.
 

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.... without attempting stealth or combat because there were just too bloody many of them and if one saw you, they all knew where you were and never lost track of you.
Oh god, this. So much this.

I was once too lazy to make a full chameleon suit, and my character wasn't high lvl enough to get grand souls, I had a 70% suit and cast the last 30% myself.. One slipup, a prison guard sees me, calls his friends, and off we go. I ran for two ingame days, completely invisible, then took my invisibility off, and wouldn't you know it, they managed to track me all the way to Chorrol.

I never completed the main quest of the game. I hated every minute spent inside an oblivion gate, and once I realized that the main quest is going to put me inside them, I quickly found something else to do.
 

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it doesn't matter either way really.

Some use the oblivion gates at a certain level range for some weird enchanting gem thing you can't get normally, but it's can't make that big of a difference.
 

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SextusMaximus said:
Shepard said:
Should I finish the game? No,the main story is boring.

Did you finish the main plotline yourself? Yes, I did.

Is the ending worth the hours put in? No.

What were your thoughts on the Main storyline as a whole? It's boring, too linear and too average. It just wasn't that great.
You seem to have a negative opinion about the main plotline, I'm curious as to your opinion on the game as a whole.
That's fair. Honestly, Oblivion is very good overall. It has lots of flaws that keep it from being great, the main story, 10 voice actors, bugs, glitches, repetitive areas, etc. But I still enjoyed the game and would recommend it to people who like open world fantasy games. That said, I would make sure to tell them Oblivion's flaws before they decided to play it.