Skyrim Child Killing Mod

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Spitfire-IX

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I will happily kill a Deer for its fur and meat, but as child-fur (skin) as little to no resale value and Greggs has started using battery Farmed Children in their "Meat" pies, there is no point in hunting them now.

which is why I never even thought about killing Children in Skyrim.

Edit: maybe Bethesda didn't include killable children because their being Fannies and avoiding bad press. Maybe, like sane people, they are not comfortable with killing children on-screen.
 

Therumancer

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Bethesda needs to get some guts with "M" rated games, kids die like anyone else, especially in generes like horror and dark fantasy. Other games like "Fallout 2" allowed you to kill kids if you wanted to, and really we've been seeing the game industry backpedaling from things like that. At one time Bethesda was one of the edgier game developers.

To be honest the thing that irritates me is the indestructability of the kids, rather than any paticular desire to exterminate kids on general. Now granted, Bethesda making every kid int he game an annoying twerp doesn't help matters either. The kids in Skyrim aren't as annoying as the ones in say "Fallout 3" who to me struck me as being fair game in that setting much like the child soldiers in third world countries. When some kid points a gun at me and calls me "mungo" even as a relatively nice person in that setting, my first instinct is not to want to be his personal gofer just because he's a kid.

At any rate, the childkilling mod is not something I'll be running out to install. I'm actually hoping for a streamlined interface mod, perhaps something that makes it a little easier/more straightforward to use differant abillities than the current favorites to hotkey, and then activating based on one of the mouse buttons and a hotkey to determine what hand it goes in.

Honestly I'd really like to have more of my spells/abillities more readily availible at any given time.
 

MrLlamaLlama

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The ghost kid is in Morthal ;)

I got this mod today as it happens, took a perch high up on a southern Whiterun watchtower and watched my Daedric arrows rend the little snotbags. Theraputic indeed. I probably wouldn't have bothered had they not been so smarmy and blatantly voiced by the same kid who did FO3.
 

lacktheknack

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Irridium said:
And they especially need to be killable when those children make a little town called Little Lamplight and then proceed to make you their ***** because they know for a fact you can't hurt them.
Your fault for not using the "Child At Heart" perk. BOOM, Little Lamplight becomes the most awesome, helpful and spectacular town in the entire game. (Except Princess. She's still a little twat.)

OT: "Fixing"

"Broken"

-_-

I love modders, but I simultaneously despise them to the core.
 

Easton Dark

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If anything, it makes tag more believable.

Maybe if the kids weren't such jerks people wouldn't make these as quickly :/
 

Scizophrenic Llama

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I didn't care about the kids not being able to take damage, until one of the little bastards sent out a hit squad on me because I accidentally picked up a wedge of cheese instead of moved it when I was messing around.
 

teqrevisited

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If Bethesda were to add it themselves the media would go insane. Modders adding it is perfect. God knows I hammered the brains out of that kid in New Vegas that kept shouting about Mick & Ralph's.
 

Flames66

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Its against the law in the uk and the usa too, to allow the player to personaly kill a child themselves, sure with fallout 1 they patched it to remove children to abide by the law, and any game that does allow you to kill children is probabley too obscure for your average joe to ever hear about.
it aint bethesda its the law
Anyone know why it is illegal?
 

SpaceBat

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"It's sad that modders are forced to fix a game that's being released as broken,"
It's sad that some people lack common sense.

Anyway, I suppose I can see why some people would want the child killing mod, seeing as some of them are quite annoying and I don't see the harm in it. Giving players the opportunity to mass murder innocent men, women and animals, but then whining that mods give the opportunity to add kids to that list is ridiculous. Also, I find the "You shouldn't want to kill kids" argument hilarious, seeing as it implies that wanting to kill everything else in cold blood is perfectly normal and acceptable.

Not going to download it, seeing as it's against the law here. Besides, I don't really have the urge to kill them. Sure they're annoying, but they're kids. I'll just ignore them and be on my way.

Flames66 said:
Anyone know why it is illegal?
Because it's considered immoral, I suppose.
 

JupiterBase

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urprobablyright said:
Then don't watch those movies and don't play the games or just don't download the mod. To the part about joining the "Bandwagon" well as someone who plays a lot of RPGs i would really enjoy it to suddenly become an outlaw for accidental death of a kid from a misplaced fireball. Its happened to me in D&D why shouldn't it happen to me in a video game that is single player no one else has to be shocked by the death of that child except me and whoever may be in the room.

Yes you shouldnt want to kill children i agree. Your equating what someone does in a video game to real life psychotic issue wich doesnt work cuz if things worked that way ive commited more crimes then i can count.
 

ResonanceGames

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It's not illegal in the U.S.A, guys. Only child porn and certain rare cases of obscenity can be banned from sale in the U.S. And age restrictions can only be required by law for pornographic material as well.
 

MaxwellEdison

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urprobablyright said:
You should not want to kill kids.
You've probably been responded to, but you should not want to kill people in general, but the shooter genre seems pretty popular right now.
 
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As much as I agree that the kids in Skyrim are little shits, and sometimes I've wanted to slap them for mocking me, I think there is something just "wrong" with killing kids. Perhaps it's my paternal instinct as I have three of them, but it just reeks of bad taste. I think you'd struggle to find an actual parent who thinks that killing kids in a game is something that should be encouraged.

That said, some of those kids need to be put in their place. I blame the parents; letting them run around and insult strangers.
 

Flames66

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SpaceBat said:
"It's sad that modders are forced to fix a game that's being released as broken,"
It's sad that some people lack common sense.

Anyway, I suppose I can see why some people would want the child killing mod, seeing as some of them are quite annoying and I don't see the harm in it. Giving players the opportunity to mass murder innocent men, women and animals, but then whining that mods give the opportunity to add kids to that list is ridiculous. Also, I find the "You shouldn't want to kill kids" argument hilarious, seeing as it implies that wanting to kill everything else in cold blood is perfectly normal and acceptable.

Not going to download it, seeing as it's against the law here. Besides, I don't really have the urge to kill them. Sure they're annoying, but they're kids. I'll just ignore them and be on my way.

Flames66 said:
Anyone know why it is illegal?
Because it's considered immoral, I suppose.
So is Murder.
 

ZenoX969

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It's all about roleplaying though... My current character is a well respected citizen. He is Thane in both Whiterun and Solitude and a well respected member of the Imperial Legion. He has done very few illegal things, and has only been jailed once. He is also the Arch-Mage of the Mage's College in Winterhold and a member of the Companions.

I did also start on another character who was the complete opposite. A murdering thieving asshole who's only looking out for his best interests. Now why can't this guy, who would murder any random person if it meant a few coins, also be a psychopathic child killer? It limits the roleplaying aspect of the game when children, and other NPC's, are unkillable. Sometimes it's fun to play the bad guy.

But yeah, it's just about the press. Just because it's a game the media will go nuts. Because they still consider ALL GAMES to be toys for kids or for 'immature people'. Movies and TV-shows kill kids all the time, though.

And hey... What about Fallout 3? There you have the option to blow up Megaton near the beginning of the game. By remotely detonating the atomic bomb which sits in the center of town. And you know who lives in that town? Two small kids, a boy and a girl. But I guess it's okay when they die in a firey explosion miles away from you. Instead of getting their heads bashed in with a baseball bat.
 

Reshkar

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I got no problem with this, in video games..
For me, it's just as bad as killing adults.. And Most games allows you that.
 

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LastGreatBlasphemer said:
bussinroundz said:
Why are you asshats trying to relate killing kids in a game to real life ?
Do some reading on subconscious desires, Freud may have been a quack but he was onto quite a few things. It's basically the same reason people want animated child pornography banned as much as the real stuff. It's what it says about the user.
Now, granted that doesn't fit for everyone, but it's the general gist.
That sidesteps the question though. That's the same argument a lot of people use to justify banning games for killing adults -- that killing people in a game is indicative of a desire to kill them in real life. Thoughtcrime.
 

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urprobablyright said:
Sometimes when I complain about immature content in a game trolls say to me:

"It's fun. Have you got something against fun jerkface?"
Well, in return, I now say:

"If I ever meet you in real life, stay the hell away from my kids, jerkfaces"
You should not want to kill kids. If you've got a problem with those kids, walk away from them. It's a pretty simple bleeding concept that you should have (but probably didn't) learnt in real life. Kind of like on this forum, when trolls tell others:

"If you don't like the content of this post, don't read it"
I know a lot of you might have had trouble with highschool, in which you may have wished you could kill that damn handsome boy who did homework well, played sports and had many friends of the opposite sex, but you didn't do it in real life, and you should be able to get by without doing it in games.

If you're on the 'I just want a realistic representation' bandwagon then I still think you should not want the chance to kill kids. If you want realism you shouldn't be walking around with fire balls, killing giant spiders, or instantly healing a percentage of your hitpoints by consuming a plant or combination of plants you picked up off the ground, or imbibing a red fluid. Maybe you should just imagine that in this world, kids reign supreme as a silent mass of influential, omnicient beings.

EDIT: There turns out to be a third party: People who got pissed off by the mocking kids. "Rise Above" is the first thing to come to mind, but if I ever wanted to get rid of kids I'd want to try do something like using magic to levitate them and deposit them on top of a pillar, or smacking them off map with the DK hammer from super smash bros. Slicing into them with an axe doesn't interest me.

If you're thinking of typing "Yo, urprobablyright, it's a game - has no consequences, should not be a matter of weight", well, I have considered that opinion and am sick of people saying stuff like that to justify games that are just appealing to shock popularity.

There's a term for this in the movie world: "Exploitation movies", movies that are full of ridiculous scenes just for appeal (see: The Human Centipede, A Serbian Film) You guys just want some hideous abandon as far as I concern no reasoning about the fact that it is simulated takes away from the fact that you patronize simulated child abuse.
Let me see if I get this right. It's not okay wanting to kill a kid in real life therefore not okay in a game. But it's perfectly alright to join the Dark Brotherhood? That's just silly. By that logic it's cool if you want to kill someone as long as they are adults.

I will not download that mod but if someone feels like getting it, either added realism or just punching the face of some poor kid, then by all means be my guest
 

JupiterBase

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LastGreatBlasphemer said:
bussinroundz said:
Why are you asshats trying to relate killing kids in a game to real life ?
Do some reading on subconscious desires, Freud may have been a quack but he was onto quite a few things. It's basically the same reason people want animated child pornography banned as much as the real stuff. It's what it says about the user.
Now, granted that doesn't fit for everyone, but it's the general gist.
Thats like something someone who took 1 class of psychology in community college would say man. Now your also equating it to child pronography. That is in a whole different zip code compared to this. You really cant group people into groups as simply as that. Even saying that almost everyone who wants to kill kids in a game wants to kill kids in RL subconciously just seems bogus.