Skyrim Gets 15 Rating in UK

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Sober Thal said:
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The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.
Actually,under the BBFC that's enough for the game to get banned in the UK.
I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.
The British Broadcast Film Classification is a bureaucratic censor board, they ban any content containing any form of bestiality and sexual violence. They fact they haven't banned it means there's no bestiality.

Dude you need to clam down. To kill your logic, we are animals.
Calm down? Okay, we are all animals, so bestiality doesn't exist, great logic there. Fur, scales, and human skin are all the same. Warm blood, cold blood, eggs, fetus, who's counting? There's a saying about things being a certain color on the inside... I won't say it, cause that's fucking sick too when mentioned in this context.

I guess you, and all the people who fight for these kinds of rights, are in the clear. I'm just a dude that finds these types of things disgusting. I guess me saying that is wrong.

Sorry to all you people out there who find this type of thing acceptable.

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/sarcasm.... you really killed my logic on this one! You animal!
You would have an argument if there was actually bestiality in the game. There isn't. The closest you'll get is furry/anthro, which again isn't bestiality.


It's a non-issue. You're getting offended by absolutely fucking nothing.
It's the 'fucking lizard people, cat people, orc people' ect, that I'm talking about. Actually, it's more about the marriage that concerns me. Breeding between the species is kinda fucking wrong.

EDIT: To be honest tho, I do love that line in Brain Candy when they talk about a pig and a bat fucking for the sake of porn... classic.

EDIT 2: So if it can walk and talk, it's okay? What if it can communicate only with sign language? What if it was just a monkey/ape/chimp... is that okay too? lol... what a silly thread this is, what silly thing I am saying!! I still think the idea is fucking gross.
Your opinion, personal hangups and frankly close minded judgements aren't actually fact. Yes it's inter-species but anything between human and anything else is interspecies be it elf, alien, orc. Look at DnD. It's full of it. Genasi are half elemental, half troll, half dragon, tiefling, aasimar (half celestial). Hell half of those things dont have DNA and it's had some sack time with a human. I think what im trying to say is, you are a very childish little man who needs to calm, the, fuck, down with the "this is wrong, that is wrong". I find you're arguments gross, lets ban you.
 

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ultimateownage said:
"Enforceable by law"
Wasn't that basically the whole idea behind California's bill? If that was all that was behind it, and it probably wasn't, then it was a silly thing to get offended by.
The difference is that movies and other media all self-regulate, so gaming would have essentially become tantamount to porn or cigarettes.
 

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...Is it wrong that I had thought that the game was just awarded a 15 out of 10? Europe, you have disinterested me with your numerical enforcement system.
 

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well ar tonelico qoga got 12 age restriction in EU and they have this in game as crucial part of gameplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L79AzmlQy8
 

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Patrick Young said:
wow really fallout was 18 in england wow it was Ma 15+ in aus
Of course it was. It was either Ma 15 or banned so of course games are by default going to get MUCH MUCH MUCH more leniency towards getting a 15 rating.
 

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ultimateownage said:
"Enforceable by law"
Wasn't that basically the whole idea behind California's bill? If that was all that was behind it, and it probably wasn't, then it was a silly thing to get offended by.
Countries have different laws. Kinda like it wouldn't be ok to see America lynch someone over stealing an apple, y'know, even though no one bats an eye at that in certain places.

OT: Yeah, seems appropriate. Doubt it'll have any sex and 15 is the violence-prepared as far as I know about the UK ratings.
 

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15 or 18 are pretty much the average ratings for games over here, Oblivion was a 15, this article is kind of pointless
 

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As has been pointed out Oblivion was 15 rated here so Skyrim being a 15 wasn't unexpected, almost wish they'd gone the whole hog and made it an 18 level game, proper violence and whatnot. But that would cut out a sizable % of the market so they had to keep it cool.

And I do wish that people would wheest about the 'beastiality' it's no more beastiality than doing a furry, it's a humanoid with some animal features. If there were ANY sexual scenes or themes it'd be an instant 18 so any beastiality or sex you bring to the table is all in your head. Just saying.
 

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...and?

So Skyrim is more violent than Oblivion, big whoop, I hardly see the significance.

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So it's down to you saying monkeys/chimps/apes are not and cannot be 'wise'. I can deal with that. I can also deal with Argonian on Argonian sex. It's when you cross breed and marry that I find it sick.

Also: Don't call people trolls, even if they are, it's not proper according to the rules we all agreed to.
An Argonian having sex with a say...Breton is just like a real world Caucasian having sex with an Asian or a Hispanic having sex with an African.

In the Elder Scrolls universe all of the playable races are sentient and humanoid, they're just more unique than those of our world because it's a fantasy world.

I have a friend with a Caucasian dad and a Hispanic mum, do you find that sick?
 

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Patrick Young said:
wow really fallout was 18 in england wow it was Ma 15+ in aus
Yeah, because we only had an MA rating at that point. It probably would have been rated 18+ had the rating existed.

Anyway, it's good to see Bethesda isn't trying for the T rating like they did last time. And before someone tells me Oblivion was rated M, I know that. It was originally rated T, but was changed to M - something about nude textures existing on the disc if I remember correctly.
 

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The BBFC for those not in the know, is the British Board of Film Classification. It is one of the two ratings systems enforcable in our country, the second being PEGI. It is known as the more lenient of the two ratings systems, but still, I wouldnt say it condones bestiality. I think people are way overreacting to be honest. Just because a fantasy race resembles an animal doesn't mean it's bestiality. I think the complaints are quite stupid.
 

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Sober Thal said:
The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.

It seems like 'they' were right.... it does lead to these types of sick and disgusting life styles.
The "animals" in the game you can marry are distinctly humanoid in shape. It's more likely to turn someone into a furry than entice young Jimmy to go out and shag a sheep at Old MacDonald's farm.
 

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ChupathingyX said:
An Argonian having sex with a say...Breton is just like a real world Caucasian having sex with an Asian or a Hispanic having sex with an African.

Sober Thal said:
So it's down to you saying monkeys/chimps/apes are not and cannot be 'wise'. I can deal with that. I can also deal with Argonian on Argonian sex. It's when you cross breed and marry that I find it sick.

Also: Don't call people trolls, even if they are, it's not proper according to the rules we all agreed to.
In the Elder Scrolls universe all of the playable races are sentient and humanoid, they're just more unique than those of our world because it's a fantasy world.

I have a friend with a Caucasian dad and a Hispanic mum, do you find that sick?
Well, it isn't really the same thing. I commend your liberal spirit, but inter-species can't reasonably be likened to inter-racial (as we have come to define it), especially when recent research has proven that the genetical differences between human ethnicities are virtually nonexistent.

That said, I have no issue at all with the possibility of inter-species relationships in fiction. It's been a recurring theme for several hundred years, after all: exploration and appraisal of the unknown through a process of romantic intrigue.

Generally, it isn't my own cup of tea (with Samara from Mass Effect 2 being a clear exception), but I honestly don't see what all the hubbub is about.
Although, selfish as it may sound, I have to say I'm glad it isn't the inclusion of homosexual romance which people seem to view as the most problematic aspect of Skyrim so far...

Can't we all just go back to trashing Duke Nukem Forever for being a disingenuously self-aware, sexually repressed exercise in male chauvinism of the lowest order? That felt like a much more productive debate.
 

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Well, it isn't really the same thing at all. Inter-species can't reasonably be likened to inter-racial (as we have come to define it), especially when recent research has proven that the genetical differences between human ethnicities is virtually nonexistent.
I know, and I agree but I was just trying to say how the different races in The Elder Scrolls having sex is not some kind of sick and twisted human-centipede style experiment that that guy was raving on about.

Honestly, I don't even care I just can't believe people are taking it that far.

Looking back my example was pretty horrible and even while typing it felt wrong to me, but the point still stands.

In the end it all comes down to the simple fact...it's fantasy., real world aspects need not apply.
 

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...wait. Oblivion had a 15 rating. Skyrim has a 15 rating. What in the hell is the point of this news post? Hell, I'd say 15 is pretty fair based on what we've seen from the gameplay so far.

[sup]Seriously though. What's the point of this article other than an excuse to go "hur durr don't like BBFC?"[/sup]
 

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ChupathingyX said:
I know, and I agree but I was just trying to say how the different races in The Elder Scrolls having sex is not some kind of sick and twisted human-centipede style experiment that that guy was raving on about.

Honestly, I don't even care I just can't believe people are taking it that far.

Looking back my example was pretty horrible and even while typing it felt wrong to me, but the point still stands.

In the end it all comes down to the simple fact...it's fantasy., real world aspects need not apply.
Oh, I agree entirely. Sorry if I picked you up on that, but I have a tendency of being anal about that stuff.

I think the equal-opportunities approach of Skyrim is a fantastic thing. Be it man on woman, woman on woman or man on lizard-man.

- It's a matter of aware, mutual and consensual attraction. And that's an essential point Sober Thal seems to have missed.