I'll settle for any evidence at all.Guy Jackson said:Spoken like someone who has no understanding of what constitutes a proof.
The clue is in the name. Look up what 'autonomic' means.Guy Jackson said:Then by all means, do explain it to me.
Considering that you implied that a large proportion of the people can achieve orgasm through experiencing massive pain, serious physical injury or paralysis simply through 'mental arousal', you might need to clarify what you actually think here. Because I've lost the plot of what you're even saying.Guy Jackson said:I didn't say that mental stimulation is the only kind of stimulation that counts.
Seriously, don't use Occams Razor if you don't know what it means.Guy Jackson said:There are two conflicting assumptions here:
1) That a woman having an orgasm from rape is in no way related to her mental state.
2) That the above assumption is false.
Comparing those two things is a faulty metaphor.lostzombies.com said:But would saying 'If you don't want your car stealing, don't leave it in the middle of the road with the doors open' be wrong? It's exactly the same. It would be nice to live in a world where bad things dont happen but we do.Kpt._Rob said:The piece of "advice" you refer to, against which they are protesting, is a police officer telling them that "if they don't want to get raped, they shouldn't dress like sluts." That, incidentally, is not advice, it's sexism at its worst. It's blaming the victim. Honestly, it's not all that far from the passage in the bible where it says that if a woman gets raped in the city and doesn't scream loud enough she should be put to death because she should have screamed louder. It's the worst kind of patriarchal bullshit, and it's the kind of attitude that people do need to stand up against.TB_Infidel said:and rather then listening to advice on how to avoid rape, they want to protest?
I don't know that attempting to "reclaim the word slut" is the right way to go about it, but nonetheless, it's important that people stand up and point out that saying things like that isn't going to be tolerated in a civilized society.
If you leave your stuff on display then chances are someone will eventually take it.
Knock yourself out.Blayze2k said:Well then you'll understand if I think less of you for being judgmental.Sentox6 said:-snip-
Well hey good with them let me know how that works out for them XDsethzard said:I think you've totally missed the point of the article, I support them on this. They should be able to choose how they dress without the worry of being raped.
I should say, knowing a good number of these girls (at least the ones organizing the event in London), that most of them are well educated middle class feminists. Most are in long term relationships or happily single. Most actually dislike wearing highly sexualized clothing.TheDarkestDerp said:If these little girls want to dress as they would without fear of being raped and make a statement about that, more power to them. They should have that right in a world peopled by mature human beings etc etc etc... I will support such an endeavor wholly. But walking around proclaiming that you are a slut and proud of that is not the way to do it. This is juvenile and somewhat esque, missing their own point.
Put the hardware together and I'll program them for ya.HG131 said:Never before have I wanted to EXTERMINATE large sections of the Escapist's population. Now I do. Lets get buildin' some Daleks.
It probably would. But the overall effect of flipping a pejorative and widespread word into something positive would be much more powerful.Gunner_Guardian said:I like the idea of it however I honestly think it's going to be nearly impossible to flip a word like "slut" into something positive or neutral. Instead I wonder if it would be easier to coin a new word that has a positive connotation.
ANY protest is ridiculous, because NONE of them have work for many years. There doesn't seem to be a cause (i.e., are they trying to say that being a slut doesn't make you a bad person? if so, then I agree with them) or a goal they are after, so it's impossible to judge their position.TB_Infidel said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13333013
So these women are proud of being sluts, think that there is nothing wrong with acting in that way, and rather then listening to advice on how to avoid rape, they want to protest?
Does anyone else find this type of behavior ridiculous and shows how warped/hedonistic parts of Western society is becoming?
1st wee bitJulianking93 said:Wait, since when does the term "slut" refer to a style?
Also, I thought this thread said "Slut Panda"
Am I weird for being disappointed that it isnt'? >.>
Seriously though, I dont' think rapist choose victims based solely on dress or even appearance.
They target those who are vulnerable or what they see as "weak."
Even though there are cases where someone has been raped due to promiscuous dress or things like that, it isn't purely based on one's attire.
Both. The point is reclaiming the word so it can no longer be used to justify or excuse rape.gamer_parent said:I feel the article and the parade itself is muddling their own point. Is the point of the parade reappropriation of a word or is it to raise awareness on rape? While I can get behind both messages, I feel that this is just not effective way of delivering it.
That's great, and I'm happy for them doing... whatever they feel they're doing. I've never questioned their education, or the existence/nature of their relationships, nor do I care. Thank you for your knowledge and opinions.evilthecat said:I should say, knowing a good number of these girls (at least the ones organizing the event in London), that most of them are well educated middle class feminists. Most are in long term relationships or happily single. Most actually dislike wearing highly sexualized clothing.TheDarkestDerp said:If these little girls want to dress as they would without fear of being raped and make a statement about that, more power to them. They should have that right in a world peopled by mature human beings etc etc etc... I will support such an endeavor wholly. But walking around proclaiming that you are a slut and proud of that is not the way to do it. This is juvenile and somewhat esque, missing their own point.
The point is not that they want to be sluts, it's that they want to draw attention to the fact that we have a word which, by its very nature, is highly unfair and used to restrict the sexuality of people like you.
Because to a large extent it doesn't matter how you see yourself. Other people will judge you regardless of your assertions to the contrary.
But I never thought that the word itself was the justification. I mean, I get that used in THAT context, it's supposed to paint a poor picture of the victims and so on but... I don't think reclaiming the word will make the victim slamming go away. That's what I mean. It's not just the word itself, it's the image that it brings. The image that brings forth by the word "slut", "whore", "harlot", etc all bring to mind a woman of loose morals, and sexual promiscuity and denigration of their character. Isolating a single word, in this context, I feel does nothing, and that's why I question the effectiveness of the message.cobra_ky said:Both. The point is reclaiming the word so it can no longer be used to justify or excuse rape.gamer_parent said:I feel the article and the parade itself is muddling their own point. Is the point of the parade reappropriation of a word or is it to raise awareness on rape? While I can get behind both messages, I feel that this is just not effective way of delivering it.
It would be, but I still doubt you could pull it off. Some people are still going to have the belief that women who are promiscuous are "immoral", "bad", etc and use slut as negative insult. Creating an entirely different word would be much easier because you'd separate people who have the former belief from those who think a women being promiscuous isn't a big deal.Ericb said:Put the hardware together and I'll program them for ya.HG131 said:Never before have I wanted to EXTERMINATE large sections of the Escapist's population. Now I do. Lets get buildin' some Daleks.
It probably would. But the overall effect of flipping a pejorative and widespread word into something positive would be much more powerful.Gunner_Guardian said:I like the idea of it however I honestly think it's going to be nearly impossible to flip a word like "slut" into something positive or neutral. Instead I wonder if it would be easier to coin a new word that has a positive connotation.