SMOKING IS B-.. Wait what? its safe?

[Cliff_m85]

Why not just use marijuana to quit smoking?


Oh wait, that would be logical and the US government HATES logic.

How is that logical at all? People who are addicted to cigarettes do it everywhere, all the time. Good luck functioning in any daily activities whilst smoking weed. And addicts would smoke way too much. And weed would be more expensive than cigs. And secondhand smoke would get people high.

At what point does the logic come in?

A bit naive. You'd be surprised how many people work while high or maintain a straight composure while a bit high. Smoking doesn't mean POWER-SMOKING, it just means smoking every once in awhile.

Sure it'd be more expensive, but so is the E-cig or nicoderm.

And I hinted at the impossibility of doing such already due to prohibition.

 

[Swaki]

thats nothing new, i have used them for about 2 years, they are okay, but they dont scratch your itch in the same way, it doesnt have any taste at all, which for me is a the main reason i smoke and it just doesnt feel the same way when you breath it in, smoking really only shows itself as an addiction when you try to quit, most of the time its just a habit, when i only smoke when i "need" to (when im staying at friends or family who dont smoke) i can make a package last 2-3 days with no problems, but at home i smoke 2 packs a day, i only use it when travelling.

 

[ICanBreakTheseCuffs]

wow,there's a flame war on a fucking fake cigarette.

Jesus Christ

/facepalm

 

[ElTigreSantiago]

Why not just use marijuana to quit smoking?


Oh wait, that would be logical and the US government HATES logic.

How is that logical at all? People who are addicted to cigarettes do it everywhere, all the time. Good luck functioning in any daily activities whilst smoking weed. And addicts would smoke way too much. And weed would be more expensive than cigs. And secondhand smoke would get people high.

At what point does the logic come in?

A bit naive. You'd be surprised how many people work while high or maintain a straight composure while a bit high. Smoking doesn't mean POWER-SMOKING, it just means smoking every once in awhile.

Sure it'd be more expensive, but so is the E-cig or nicoderm.

And I hinted at the impossibility of doing such already due to prohibition.

That's all fine and dandy, but to call the US government illogical for not doing so is borderline insanity. That's what I'm saying.

 

[Cliff_m85]

Why not just use marijuana to quit smoking?


Oh wait, that would be logical and the US government HATES logic.

How is that logical at all? People who are addicted to cigarettes do it everywhere, all the time. Good luck functioning in any daily activities whilst smoking weed. And addicts would smoke way too much. And weed would be more expensive than cigs. And secondhand smoke would get people high.

At what point does the logic come in?

A bit naive. You'd be surprised how many people work while high or maintain a straight composure while a bit high. Smoking doesn't mean POWER-SMOKING, it just means smoking every once in awhile.

Sure it'd be more expensive, but so is the E-cig or nicoderm.

And I hinted at the impossibility of doing such already due to prohibition.

That's all fine and dandy, but to call the US government illogical for not doing so is borderline insanity. That's what I'm saying.

I guess regulatory action to make sure that pot is manufactured safely and to standards is "borderline insane". That and not spending billions of dollars to prevent it from getting into the United States, which obviously works so well.

 

[ElTigreSantiago]

Why not just use marijuana to quit smoking?


Oh wait, that would be logical and the US government HATES logic.

How is that logical at all? People who are addicted to cigarettes do it everywhere, all the time. Good luck functioning in any daily activities whilst smoking weed. And addicts would smoke way too much. And weed would be more expensive than cigs. And secondhand smoke would get people high.

At what point does the logic come in?

A bit naive. You'd be surprised how many people work while high or maintain a straight composure while a bit high. Smoking doesn't mean POWER-SMOKING, it just means smoking every once in awhile.

Sure it'd be more expensive, but so is the E-cig or nicoderm.

And I hinted at the impossibility of doing such already due to prohibition.

That's all fine and dandy, but to call the US government illogical for not doing so is borderline insanity. That's what I'm saying.

I guess regulatory action to make sure that pot is manufactured safely and to standards is "borderline insane". That and not spending billions of dollars to prevent it from getting into the United States, which obviously works so well.

That's not what I said at all. I don't want to argue about legalizing it. I said to call the US government illogical for not trying to replace cigarettes with weed, which is what you started out with.

 

[xitel]

I've read about these before, apparently they taste like sucking on metal, and you have to suck REALLY hard to get a mouthful of air. They help, but they're not all that enjoyable, supposedly.

 

[SadisticPretzel]

Why not just use marijuana to quit smoking?


Oh wait, that would be logical and the US government HATES logic.

Because I don't want to get fat from eating all the time, I'd rather not kill off all my brain cells and I'm not stupid.

 

[HuntrRose]

Why not just use marijuana to quit smoking?


Oh wait, that would be logical and the US government HATES logic.

How is that logical at all? People who are addicted to cigarettes do it everywhere, all the time. Good luck functioning in any daily activities whilst smoking weed. And addicts would smoke way too much. And weed would be more expensive than cigs. And secondhand smoke would get people high.

At what point does the logic come in?

A bit naive. You'd be surprised how many people work while high or maintain a straight composure while a bit high. Smoking doesn't mean POWER-SMOKING, it just means smoking every once in awhile.

Sure it'd be more expensive, but so is the E-cig or nicoderm.

And I hinted at the impossibility of doing such already due to prohibition.

That's all fine and dandy, but to call the US government illogical for not doing so is borderline insanity. That's what I'm saying.

I guess regulatory action to make sure that pot is manufactured safely and to standards is "borderline insane". That and not spending billions of dollars to prevent it from getting into the United States, which obviously works so well.

That's not what I said at all. I don't want to argue about legalizing it. I said to call the US government illogical for not trying to replace cigarettes with weed, which is what you started out with.

As a possible way to ween alcoholics of alcohol, I can see a chance this will help, against smoking, not so much.

Problem with replaceing tobacco with marijuana is the intoxication thing previously mentioned. How many people are working while high, slightly so, is besides the point. The clue is they are inebriated, and as such should be slouched on a couch or laying in the grass looking at the clouds. Not doing anything the results of which other people depend upon, especially if that anything involves the operation of motorized vehicles. Seriously, you wouldn't want a buss driver high as a kite while driving your kids to school now would you?

 

[Brawndo]

FINALLY, I have something to do at parties and can hang out with the cool kids without killing myself

 

[HuntrRose]

Why not just use marijuana to quit smoking?


Oh wait, that would be logical and the US government HATES logic.

Because I don't want to get fat from eating all the time, I'd rather not kill off all my brain cells and I'm not stupid.

Marijuana don't kill your braincells. It leaves THC in the fat between braincells, blocking communication. The THC then disapears from your body over the next 30-40 days leaving your brain the way it was before use. Of course, heavy use will make the amount of THC build up, blocking more and more of your brain, untill, after a long time of heavy usage, you end up as the classic pothead with only half a clue to his own surroundings. Still, given enough time without any addition of THC, even they will return to normal inteligenze and standard availability of braincells.

 

[samonix]

Best method is the slow weaning off of cigarettes. Take no substitutes for your addiction, just take slightly less and less of your addiction over a long period of time while your body catches up with the eventual loss of dependency on the drug.

actually the best method is to go cold turkey. cigarettes aren't actually very addictive physically. Its the reason why you don't wake up in the middle of the night to have a cigarette which, if you were physically addicted, you would do. Smoking is actually really easy to quit and if anyone here is trying I highly recommend 'The Easy way to Stop Smoking' by Allen Carr - it will work.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Can this actually help a real smoker? I don't think most people do it for the look. In fact it seems kinda stupid in my opinion.

People start smoking for the look (mainly kids), then they get hooked on nicotine and can't stop.
This could partially replace the smoking ritual, but with the lack of nicotine you would still run into withdrawal symptoms.
If they added nicotine to the vapor mix it could replace smoking (making it less toxic), and if you gradually reduce the nicotine percentage it could be an easier way out.

BUT it still looks stupid

 

[IzisviAziria]

There are two sides to whether something is addictive. The substance, and the person. Also, this "research" is something I would LOVE to see. More so than that, is the credibility of said research. Did a bunch of pot smokers just come together and SAY that they could quit if they wanted to, but they didnt want to? You can take a survey from people who smoked pot and im pretty sure that almost all of them are going to root for it. That really only reinforces the notion that pot is in fact addictive.

It's not physically addictive. That's the scientific fact. You won't suffer withdrawals, you won't be chemically imbalanced, no physical pain. Psychologically, you can be addicted to pretty much anything, and pot is no different. Much like the social/oral aspect of trying to quit cigarettes. It's often in the friends, the social situations, the habits.
I can speak from experience on this one, as I've both used it (frequently) and had to go off of it on a moments notice, for job related reasons usually but not always. But every time I've stopped, there wasn't any "withdrawal" or anything. No longing for a joint after a meal. Not abnormally irritated or anything. No depression. Just... sorta quit.

 

[MercurySteam]

everyone should be forced to smoke.

Great logic, right here.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Hey, there's some argument about marijuana going on in this topic for some reason.

Anyway, I've heard it actually works, especially when combined with other stop-smoking tools.

 

[Scout Tactical]

These E-cigs are surprisingly effective aids for quitting smoking. A lot of the addiction is in the ritual of lighting up, and that's where these prove to be superior to nicotine patches.

This is totally true. I know a guy who stopped smoking by eating tootsie rolls instead of smoking (he needed to hold something similar in his hand). Unfortunately, he became diabetic over it. Ah, well. Can't win 'em all.

 

[GBlair88]

So....in short, its just a nicotine patch that you can blow smoke from. Why on earth would anyone ever wanna buy one of those? The main reason may be so you could "smoke" in places where you normally can't smoke, but you'll get so many people coming up to you telling you to turn it off that it won't even be worth it. If people wanna quit, they can just get the patch or quit in another way. Its cheaper and it won't attract as much attention or be as annoying.

Technically no. These are quite popular with some smokers that are trying to quit because they associate lifting their hand to their mouth with getting their nicotine fix sub-consciously. Nicotine patches do give them their hit but they still feel the urge to lift someting to their mouth, which means the cigarette is replaced by food and they put on weight. It's not just the nicotine they're addicted to, it's also the feeling of smoking. Obviously patches are enough for some people but because everyone is different, they need different things.

At least that's what I've been told.

 

[coldfrog]

I just want to add my part to this - whether you think it's stupid or whatever, I now know three people who have used this to quit smoking - my aunt, my grandmother, and a good friend of mine. All smoked for YEARS and fairly heavily, and this was the only thing that's ever worked for any of them. And yes, it's proven that not just the nicotine but also the physical act of putting a cigarette in your mouth are addictive, and that's what makes this so much more effective. You're eliminating one part of the addiction at a time instead of cutting one out entirely.

 

[Midnight Crossroads]

Yes, it does help. Massively. I know lots of people that have quit smoking using these. They help to address what a nicotine patch can't, the need to hold a cigarette.