So A Teacher At My School Was Just Fired...

[Quiet Stranger]

Oh for fucks sake! Give the man his job back! Wanna know what my teacher showed my class back in Junior High? Dead Like me, and the episodes we watched were way worse then Jackass. (Although Dead Like Me is much more intellectual of a show then Jackass 2) Now that I think about it maybe he's getting fired for really killing off their brain cells

 

[Rumpsteak]

A part of me wants to curse modern society for being so over-protective of children while another wants to call the guy an idiot for taking the chance knowing the society we live in. I guess I'll just do both while crying in the corner.

 

[TheProffesor]

If this had any educational value, I would say give him a reprimand and send him on his way.

However, this wasn't educational at all. He was deliberatly wasting class time. Having good rapport with students doesn't make you a good teacher.

 

[therandombear]

Well, sounds like my old teachers should get fired then. We've seen Jackass 1 and 2 in class. =/

And other teacher I had found youtube vids and showed on the projector...during class.

Idiot decision, imo.

 

[Kiyotaki]

I would say this was a lighthearted action taken WAY too seriously, its just Jackass a movie about stupidity and the fact that it was shown to a bunch of Minors doesn't mean much in this time period I'm 100% that everyone has seen a R rated movie at a young age, parent or not.
Basically a teacher who does stupid things does not mean much as long as the teacher teaches and the students learn then everything else should be irrelevant.

 

[Jonluw]

Christ, what's with this sensitivity bullshit?
I was watching Jackass at eight. The show is hardly adult. It's as infantile as it gets.
I remember having watched Love Actually at school, and that film has long scenes showing a porno filming. And it's rated ages 12 and up.

High school kids know what a dick looks like. Why should this be a problem?

 

[chuckey]

This is really dumb, from what i've read in the petition page, theis guy seemed like a really good teacher. was it dumb that he showed the movie? sure, but it's not like no one in that class has seen jackass before. I'm sure that some of those kids have even done the nasty, schools these days just don't know how to realize whaere an actually problem is.

Besides, he didn't even show any nudity. In my Freshman year the SPANISH teacher let us watch ALL OF GLADIATOR.... IN ENGLISH!!!!!

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Da fuck are you talking about?! If that's suppose to be a joke, I gotta say, it ain't funny. Not in the slightest.

If only it was a joke, but the pro-violence lobby of the NRA is all-powerfull, and not a hundred school shootings, 30.000+ deaths a year and murder rates 6-33 times as much as comparable countries makes the US reconsider the free arms and murders for everyone laws they have.

1) The NRA does not encourage violence, in fact, I do believe that the local chapter of the NRA near my home actually holds gun safety classes, which each NRA member had to pass before being able to own a gun.

2) Several of the murders done with firearms in this country are done with poor intercity youths who have procured the gun illegally(Which is a felony) Yes, gun laws need to be changed and yes, some states are far too lax on gun ownership. But I will state this, should you remove the guns, it will not stop or lower crime, it will just cause fatalities due to knives or blunt weapons to rise as the UK has shown us.

3) I don't care what the fuck your argument is, your attempt to equate this small breach of school policy to a public shooting is down right offensive to those who are victims of gun violence not just in America, but everywehre . Please, think before you type and don't try to derail the thread.

 

[Realitycrash]

he is breaking a law by showing an R-rated movie to "kids", but really..He should be fired for that?

certainly.

just like any other job would fire you for committing a crime on premises, during business hours.

seriously, ppl saying this should be brushed off have very questionable work ethics.

When the "crime" is showing minors a silly R-rated movie, then no, I do think there is such a thing as a gray-zone.
For the same reason, if I put on a r-rated movie without giving it much of a thought (and I seriously doubt this man did) in the restuarant I work with (we got several fullscreens) and minors (let's say kids 12-14) see it, I don't think I should be fired.
I also don't think I should be fired if I by mistake block the fire-exit with my truck when I stop to deliver groceries. I should be yelled at, but fired? For any small, innocent crime made by mistake? Hah.

 

[spartan231490]

What age were the students in question? If they're 16 plus I don't see anything wrong with it. But, I don't see how he got fired from just this with the students protesting it. Teacher's unions are dang near untouchable.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

he is breaking a law by showing an R-rated movie to "kids", but really..He should be fired for that?

certainly.

just like any other job would fire you for committing a crime on premises, during business hours.

seriously, ppl saying this should be brushed off have very questionable work ethics.

When the "crime" is showing minors a silly R-rated movie, then no, I do think there is such a thing as a gray-zone.
For the same reason, if I put on a r-rated movie without giving it much of a thought (and I seriously doubt this man did) in the restuarant I work with (we got several fullscreens) and minors (let's say kids 12-14) see it, I don't think I should be fired.
I also don't think I should be fired if I by mistake block the fire-exit with my truck when I stop to deliver groceries. I should be yelled at, but fired? For any small, innocent crime made by mistake? Hah.

Its against school policy to show R rated films without permission. Heck, some schools don't even let you see PG-13 films. He was not fired for breaking the law, as there is no law against minors viewing an R rated film (Those ratings hold the same power as the ESRB, that is to say, none) he was fired for breaking school policy.

 

[Something Amyss]

All of the students at my school loved him and are actively protesting his termination.

Administrative leave =/= termination.

That being said, he did something wrong and evidently knew it was wrong, since he opted to hide it when someone entered the room.

Oddly enough, I would think someone watching movies while they're getting paid to work would constitute as being "shit at their job".

but it seems like most ppl think it's perfectly ok for him to goof off, apparently that's all that the students want to do too, right?

ya, really legit teacher right there.

And this is why popular opinion tends to be crap.

 

[IckleMissMayhem]

R- Restricted - Under 17 requires an accompanying parent or adult guardian

Therefore, he shouldn't have shown it to his students (and since he switched it off when another member of staff walked in the room, he obviously knew he'd be in the cacky if he got caught). He got caught, he's getting investigated (has he actually been fired yet? Article in the OP says "on admin leave")

I know it's an offence to show an age-rated film to underage people in the UK, I guess it's the same in the States, so IMO, he deserves to be in the aforementioned cacky. As far as I'm concerned, he should have been supervising the students in his care, not watching films, let alone showing them what he was watching!

 

[remnant_phoenix]

I'm a teacher, and I have to say that while I'm not one for obsession with "propriety" and other arbitrary social constructs (I'm posting this from my school's teachers' lounge between classes after all), a certain level of professionalism, especially in the presence of students, is necessary for being an effective educator.

I'm not making a moral judgment on him for showing lewd videos to his students. I'm looking at this from a professional standpoint, and from that, what he did was foolish. I don't know if he deserves to be fired, especially if he is a younger teacher with a lot of potential and this could be a career-ending termination, but some corrective measure is definitely appropriate. He needs to understand that if one is going to be an effective educator, there are certain things you can't do in front of students, such as what he did.

 

[darksuccubus]

signed the petition, hope it helps :3

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

It's the kind of thing that makes you shake your head and mumble "Oh, America..."

Shoot up school with firearms and murder people: good thing
Watch a slightly tasteless movie in class: horridly evil thing

Da fuck are you talking about?! If that's suppose to be a joke, I gotta say, it ain't funny. Not in the slightest.

He is our resident anti-gun fanatic. Because the US allows citizens to own firearms, it is totally okay with kids getting their hands on a parent's gun and shooting other kids at school. Or so the logic goes.
OP: Yeah, that was a very unprofessional move and I don't mind the school's decision to put him on leave.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

It's the kind of thing that makes you shake your head and mumble "Oh, America..."

Shoot up school with firearms and murder people: good thing
Watch a slightly tasteless movie in class: horridly evil thing

Da fuck are you talking about?! If that's suppose to be a joke, I gotta say, it ain't funny. Not in the slightest.

He is our resident anti-gun fanatic. Because the US allows citizens to own firearms, it is totally okay with kids getting their hands on a parent's gun and shooting other kids at school. Or so the logic goes.
OP: Yeah, that was a very unprofessional move and I don't mind the school's decision to fire him.

I think when dealing with him on this issue, "logic" may be a stretch of the word. What I love is he's basically become a strawman against gun ownership that you so rarely see now a days in the states.

OT: I don't think he should have done this. But I'd need to know if he has a previous record with the school of misbehavior.

 

[hink86]

There are many worse off teachers at Stratford, but even then they wouldn't even do something this stupid. First off why would you watch jackass at your job?