So apparently JonTron is a racist
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Because I DIDN'T want to derail the thread, and if they can't find both of the videos, they can pm me for a link and I'll provide.Zontar said:
He's not from that, That's Matt and Pat from Two best friends. And his actual youtube career is quite lucrative gaining millions of hits on each release he makes. He's been widely known for a good few years.Silentpony said:
https://www.youtube.com/user/JonTronShow
Is this the same Sargon that said feminists are ruining American culture because of Mad Max, despite Mad Max being Australian and directed by George Miller like every other Mad Max film and the fact that Mad Max has never made gendered arguments about violence in the Wasteland?Eri said:
Funny how all the idiots crawled out of the woodwork over this, without having ever watched any Mad Max film.
Almost as if they're manufacturing battlefields...
To be fair, it is a Sargon video, so it still counts as a long-form rant, just one that happens to include another person.Zontar said:
To put things bluntly, no, the Sargon of Akkad account on YouTube is not the same person as that guy from the site who's name escapes me since I've never frequented it and was only made aware of its existence when the two Sargons both stated that no, they are not the same person they just by coincidence chose the same user name.Addendum_Forthcoming said:
Don't worry Jon, going full retard always works out just fine for celebs. Just look at Mel Gibson!
Seriously now: didn't this shit happen months ago? I remember that he did a stream with that guy in which he said even more unacceptable shit. Oh, and this series of tweets about the Woman's Day March. And he did a Brietbart interview.
Between that and the increasingly shitty videos, I unsubscribed from that guy months ago. I'm surprised he's still banging on the Reactionary drum, though. You'd think the backlash would've taught him what happens when a non-political figure tries to be political. Especially when their best counter argument is akin to this:
Seriously now: didn't this shit happen months ago? I remember that he did a stream with that guy in which he said even more unacceptable shit. Oh, and this series of tweets about the Woman's Day March. And he did a Brietbart interview.
Between that and the increasingly shitty videos, I unsubscribed from that guy months ago. I'm surprised he's still banging on the Reactionary drum, though. You'd think the backlash would've taught him what happens when a non-political figure tries to be political. Especially when their best counter argument is akin to this:
No, see, that only convinces them that the conspiracy is real. After all, why would so many disagree with him if they weren't either part of the secret forces or being duped by it.
Everybody prefers being the underdog over just being wrong.
Everybody prefers being the underdog over just being wrong.
At the risk of derailing this thread... I remember there initially being exactly one crank in some obscure blog or another saying that, at which point every progressiver-than-thou clickbait rag on the internet jumped to loudly defend it against this massive backlash existing in any demonstrable form only inside their heads, and proclaim it a "feminist action movie".Addendum_Forthcoming said:
Well that's dumb, too. Because Thunderdome exists.Ogoid said:
The Road Warrior told a better story of male insecurity, and Aunty Entity was a better feminist role model than Furiosa.
Aunty Entity built and protected Bartertown. That she was a genuine hero that brought back something approximating civilization to the Wastes, and that's ultimately why she has become a tyrant. She's Max if Max had actually stayed someplace. Using violence to hold and protect a vision of community. She's Max if Max stayed on in the MFP, protecting the same stretch of roads for decades on end rather than running away. Ultimately, the only difference between them is that Aunty Entity actually stayed and fought the good ('best of a bad situation') fight.
Hence why she spares his life at the end, saying; "Well... ain't we a pair, raggedy man."
As I see it, Road Warrior is a direct continuation of the themes of societal decay and Max's estrangement from his own humanity (which are intimately connected). It's the story of a "shell of a man... a burnt-out, desolate man" "learn[ing] to live again" - of Max's partial redemption as he rediscovers a capacity for empathy towards his fellow man.Addendum_Forthcoming said:
That's why at the film's climax Max for the first time - for the only time - actually smiles at the Gyro Captain; when he finally lets the walls down and allows himself to share a moment of levity with a friend, to laugh together at the absurd of their situation, and it's what makes that scene so powerful.
Not sure I see how "male insecurity" comes into it, though.
Thunderdome, however, is just a re-tread of that theme (in addition to many more faults I could point out). It brings nothing new to the table.
As far as Aunty Entity goes, I don't think I would say she's a "role model". She's an idealist, yes, someone with a vision who held together a community on the sheer strength of her personality; but she's also unapologetically power-hungry and amoral, not above employing assassination, blackmail or torture to get her way. As I see it, at her core she's a ruthless pragmatist, which I always assumed is why she spares Max by the end of the movie; he has already defeated her at that point. It was Master she needed, and she lost him. She has nothing to gain by killing Max, and petty vengeance isn't something she indulges in.
For all of Thunderdome's flaws, I'll agree that Aunty is a great, complex character, as opposed to the barely two-dimensional cardboard cutout that is Furiosa (and everyone else on that thing, frankly).
...But, as you can probably see, Mad Max is a subject I can (and gladly will, given half a chance) rant about endlessly, and this thread isn't about that, so I'll stop now.
If you're going solely off of conviction rate, then why are black people exonerated at a much higher rate than white people?Zontar said: