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-In terms of sequels I'd double down on the Classical mythology angle. Seriously, have Diana do some Jason and the Argonauts/Clash of the Titans stuff and deal with ancient monsters or magical threats
I would say to look at Azzarello's run for ideas, but...

Hippolyta mentions that Ares killed the rest of the Greek pantheon single-handedly, so presumably they can't appear.

There are still things they can do with a kind of urban fantasy vibe, either with Greek mythological creatures, the Titans (Typhon is a solid "generic world-destroyer bad guy" enemy idea), or maybe the Furies. The Greek Furies, not Darkseid's Furies.

Actually, now that I think about it, they'd almost certainly do something with Circe. She's the closest thing Wonder Woman has to a decent archnemesis once Ares is out of the picture.
I'd kill to see a live action version of the Medusa fight (I think it was new 52?) Where Medusa was threatening to broadcast her gaze over live TV and petrify millions of people

It was before the New 52 but yeah it was a pretty good fight.

So wonder woman blinds herself and beats the shit out of her
 

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So I finally saw the movie and it's actually good. The only part I felt really fell flat is that;

The Ares fight. It seems to start out alright, but after Steve does his heroic sacrifice the movie just seems to go "shit, we gotta come up with an ending now but we just used what would normally have been the perfect ending. What do?".

That said, it really made me want to play some more BF1 and Injustice 2.
 

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She launched herself into a church tower and collapsed it: an unusual level of strength is one thing, being a sword wielding artillery shell is quite another.
Except you could say that about a huge list of DC beings, that aren't gods. So it doesn't automatically mean she's a god. Super strong sure, but hey, maybe she's just a Kryptonian. Or maybe she's some form of Lantern, and the lasso is really just her using her energy, and otherwise she's a mortal woman. Or any number of batshit crazy comic book explanations for her power that don't all default to "she's actually a goddess."

I really don't understand why people find their skepticism of her claims so baffling. Super strength doesn't automatically equal god. Hell in most cases in DC it's something else. Most of them aren't gods as far as I'm aware, they're either aliens with super powers, humans with super powers, or robots, or any number of other combinations. Sure SHE is actually a god, but the track record of DC hardly makes this the going standard for explanation of super human ability.
I think you are getting the timeline mixed up. The Wonder Woman movie happend before the Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman. So no, they wouldn't consider alternate explanations. She is being set up as the first superhero. So even if they don't think she's a god the idea that she's seriously expecting to find and fight one shouldn't be so surprising after seeing her fight.
 

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Is it weird I find Dr. Poison more memorable than any Marvel villain (except Loki)?

Just the cool mask design, the mannerism and some scenes like her laughing with the general about the gas mask.
Not really. Marvel has always had the weakest villains.

But personally I think she was a boring villain. All of them were.
 

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Seen the movie, it was good......but it was WAY too safe like it feels like anyother Superhero movie. And I think it could have been alot better if it was in WW2.

At the very least this movie make me love Gal Gadot Wonder Woman.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Seen the movie, it was good......but it was WAY too safe like it feels like anyother Superhero movie. And I think it could have been alot better if it was in WW2.

At the very least this movie make me love Gal Gadot Wonder Woman.
I think safe is what DC needed right now. The last three films have all been relatively risky, and it obviously backfired on them based on the critical reception.

WW2 is debatable. I mean, yeah, Captain America basically got there first, but it's more than that. WWI had a sense of both moral ambiguity - neither side was really morally justified - and just brutal pointlessness; the war ended with nothing that could rationally be called a victory. The film deliberately exploited that to make the point that war is kind of pointless and destructive. That point would've been blunted if it was set during WW2, because we were fighting the fucking Nazis, like...the definition of "bad guy." They were racist shitheads in all-black uniforms with skulls on their fucking helmets, for Christ's sake. It's hard to justify not fighting guys like that! How the hell would Wonder Woman have been able to say "I SEE NOW THAT VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER" in that context?

And anyway, it's still possible that a later Wonder Woman sequel will take place in the mid-century rather than the modern day. Wait, I just realised: if they do that, people will refer to the Wonder Woman sequel as WW2. That's hilarious, and must happen.
 

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bastardofmelbourne said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Seen the movie, it was good......but it was WAY too safe like it feels like anyother Superhero movie. And I think it could have been alot better if it was in WW2.

At the very least this movie make me love Gal Gadot Wonder Woman.
I think safe is what DC needed right now. The last three films have all been relatively risky, and it obviously backfired on them based on the critical reception.

WW2 is debatable. I mean, yeah, Captain America basically got there first, but it's more than that. WWI had a sense of both moral ambiguity - neither side was really morally justified - and just brutal pointlessness; the war ended with nothing that could rationally be called a victory. The film deliberately exploited that to make the point that war is kind of pointless and destructive. That point would've been blunted if it was set during WW2, because we were fighting the fucking Nazis, like...the definition of "bad guy." They were racist shitheads in all-black uniforms with skulls on their fucking helmets, for Christ's sake. It's hard to justify not fighting guys like that! How the hell would Wonder Woman have been able to say "I SEE NOW THAT VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER" in that context?

And anyway, it's still possible that a later Wonder Woman sequel will take place in the mid-century rather than the modern day. Wait, I just realised: if they do that, people will refer to the Wonder Woman sequel as WW2. That's hilarious, and must happen.
I think it was also set in WW 1 so that the Amazon beach scene wouldn't be so one sided. In WW 1, there were still people using cavalry and swords. So the idea of mounted archers taking on a group of soldiers with WW 1 era guns, is a bit more evenly matched. Or at least not so one sided that it would be a slaughter.
 

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Happyninja42 said:
I think it was also set in WW 1 so that the Amazon beach scene wouldn't be so one sided. In WW 1, there were still people using cavalry and swords. So the idea of mounted archers taking on a group of soldiers with WW 1 era guns, is a bit more evenly matched. Or at least not so one sided that it would be a slaughter.
Even World War II or Vietnam War-era soldiers could be fought with bows. It wasn't until the advent of Kevlar that modern soldiers were regularly equipped with significant body protection from arrows and even today few soldiers have face protection. The Amazons' main failing was their doctrine of advancing openly en masse (which is a bit strange given their emphasis on individual combat), not their weaponry. Which isn't to say that it wouldn't benefit them to upgrade.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Seen the movie, it was good......but it was WAY too safe like it feels like anyother Superhero movie. And I think it could have been alot better if it was in WW2.

At the very least this movie make me love Gal Gadot Wonder Woman.
I'm still on the fence about her, she was good when she was being naive, but when she tried to be serious it just fell flat.

Movie was still alright though, a solid 7/10.
 

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inu-kun said:
Is it weird I find Dr. Poison more memorable than any Marvel villain (except Loki)?

Just the cool mask design, the mannerism and some scenes like her laughing with the general about the gas mask.
I think that was the actress trying her damnedest, because there couldn't have been much on the page.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Seen the movie, it was good......but it was WAY too safe like it feels like anyother Superhero movie. And I think it could have been alot better if it was in WW2.

At the very least this movie make me love Gal Gadot Wonder Woman.
Honestly most of the DCEU films have been safe, but the way this film is done, I prefer this. Also the film does a better job of the WWI aesthetic than WWII. The only time it doesn't work with that setting is with the evil German. Not Dr. Poison, her C.O. who apparently is using something that is like a precursor to the Venom stuff for Bane.

And yeah, I really dug Gal Gadot. I found her dull in BvS and the trailers, but she was fantastic in WW. Also most underrated bit: the ice cream scene.
 

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Just saw it yesterday.

It's wonderful. You should be very proud.

Great Hera, this one actually has a good sense of humour. Not quite able to dethrone my top three CBMs, but I'm reminded of how I felt coming out of the first Iron Man film; a solid origin story for a previously snubbed hero that hits all the right bases without trying for anything beyond that and risking overreaching or getting too pretentious. If this had been the first DCEU film to come out I'd be psyched for more instead of pleasantly surprised.
 

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WhiteFangofWhoa said:
Just saw it yesterday.

It's wonderful. You should be very proud.

Great Hera, this one actually has a good sense of humour. Not quite able to dethrone my top three CBMs, but I'm reminded of how I felt coming out of the first Iron Man film; a solid origin story for a previously snubbed hero that hits all the right bases without trying for anything beyond that and risking overreaching or getting too pretentious. If this had been the first DCEU film to come out I'd be psyched for more instead of pleasantly surprised.
I'll never understand how cinemas in the States (or wherever you live) manage to keep showing movies for so long. They stopped having WW showings in my country weeks ago.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
WhiteFangofWhoa said:
I'll never understand how cinemas in the States (or wherever you live) manage to keep showing movies for so long. They stopped having WW showings in my country weeks ago.
I'm Canadian and the usual rule is 1 month. It started showing 2 weeks ago, though I did notice that it only showed during the evening instead of multiple showings.

One thing I found amusing when checking the credits for a stinger (there isn't one, which I rather like after the deluge of cheap sequel hooks we've grown accustomed to) is an extra (she plays an Amazon civilian) whose first name is Ooooota Adepo. With 5 Os.
 

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WhiteFangofWhoa said:
Bob_McMillan said:
WhiteFangofWhoa said:
I'll never understand how cinemas in the States (or wherever you live) manage to keep showing movies for so long. They stopped having WW showings in my country weeks ago.
I'm Canadian and the usual rule is 1 month. It started showing 2 weeks ago, though I did notice that it only showed during the evening instead of multiple showings.

One thing I found amusing when checking the credits for a stinger (there isn't one, which I rather like after the deluge of cheap sequel hooks we've grown accustomed to) is an extra (she plays an Amazon civilian) whose first name is Ooooota Adepo. With 5 Os.
Ugh that was annoying. I told my whole family to wait and see if there would be one and it sure was embarrassing when there wasn't. I don't even particularly want one, they just need to be fucking consistent. Suicide Squad had one, and I missed that.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
I'll never understand how cinemas in the States (or wherever you live) manage to keep showing movies for so long. They stopped having WW showings in my country weeks ago.
I think it simply boils down to "is it bringing in enough money to keep making us sick stacks of cash? Yes? Ok keep it rolling then."
 

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Happyninja42 said:
Bob_McMillan said:
I'll never understand how cinemas in the States (or wherever you live) manage to keep showing movies for so long. They stopped having WW showings in my country weeks ago.
I think it simply boils down to "is it bringing in enough money to keep making us sick stacks of cash? Yes? Ok keep it rolling then."
Yeah, but what about new movies and stuff? Do ya'll really have that many theaters?
 
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Bob_McMillan said:
Happyninja42 said:
Bob_McMillan said:
I'll never understand how cinemas in the States (or wherever you live) manage to keep showing movies for so long. They stopped having WW showings in my country weeks ago.
I think it simply boils down to "is it bringing in enough money to keep making us sick stacks of cash? Yes? Ok keep it rolling then."
Yeah, but what about new movies and stuff? Do ya'll really have that many theaters?
Yes, actually. I can think of 3 theaters within 4 miles of my house, and they each have at least 16 screens. I don't even live in a heavily populated area, pretty much just a suburb.