So Dragon Age 3.... No Pressure?
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I liked the video. It does seem like EA's tendencies are rubbing off on Bioware, although I don't necessarily agree that they're doomed to ruin Bioware.Aircross said:
Personally, I had mixed feelings about DA II. I enjoyed it enough to replay the game (and buy DLC), but it was flawed in many ways. My biggest complaint is probably that the world felt small. Between the copy-and-paste dungeons and being stuck in the same city it got very repetitive. The first time I played I kept expecting to unlock other parts of Kirkwall, because it's implied to be much bigger than what you see, but it just never happened. There are also aspects of the story and characterization I was unsatisfied with, but I'll be here all day if I start talking about that.
I want the next Dragon Age game to be amazing, but I'm not getting my hopes up. After ME3 I just don't trust the company to deliver like they used to. I'm not boycotting, just hedging my bets. I'll wait for reviews and price-drops next time around, if I buy at all.
As I assume that DA3 will be Origins only and being as I will only play it on a computer and being that my save files from the previous two games have been releases to to a voluntary hardrive wipe and due to my unwillingness to complete both games to satisfaction I have every reason to believe that I will not be purchasing DA3.
If those who hate on Bioware and EA with every breath they take were being completely honest, I would agree that there is really no pressure on Bioware for not only DA3 but also for pretty much anything else they ever release. They have already ruined themselves, can never do anything right and have near ruined gaming as a whole just by themselves.. of course, I think most people who say things like that are talking out of their nether regions so they will almost all buy DA3 anyway and then complain again to the high heavens about how bad it is.
For weapons, not equipment. When Anders was dying every ten seconds and I couldn't do anything with my totally awesome mage armor but hock it I couldn't help but feel like Bioware had dropped the ball.Knight Templar said:
I've never seen another game that loaded you up with armor and didn't let you equip any of it to your squad.
Like Yahtzee said the trouser sorting is a big part of RPG's. (Not to mention they came out with class specific armor packs as DLC that you couldn't use) DA 2 was lacking, and the fact that the game play got really difficult at times and I had armor in my inventory that could help alleviate the problem and couldn't use it just made things worse.
every game they put out after ME 2 has been mechanically dismal and narratively messy/broken.
And it's pretty much all EA's fault. Bioware makes RPG's not action games. They're really bad at making action games. I mean the combat from Mass Effect 1 was about as smooth as two bricks making out, but if they had enough time they could put together a great narrative, but since EA rushes them it to releasing a game every year they have to make due with like a third of a script, then just string it together with shiny nothing and a nonsensical amount of fighting.
Bioware needs at least 3 years to make a game (Maybe 5)
They should bring back episodic gaming, because they could make an act in a year. so they could make Dragon Age 3 act one, then next year release act 2 then 3 for 20$ each that way they get the time they need to write the game and EA gets their stupid yearly release thing they seem to give so much of a crap about
This got a little off topic.
EQUIPMENT! Yay!
not being able to put armor on my mages sucked. (Unless there's a patch or something I missed, I haven't played since Mark of the Assassin came out)
So DA3 is pretty much hopeless. especially since the only way to continue the series from this point is to make it even farther removed from DA O (What with all the Retcons DA2 pulled (and yes when you're talking about Bioware Retcon is a capital R)) I hope this is the last straw for Bioware fans. (As if Mass Effect 3 wasn't enough) You can do one thing that should be a staple in all RPG's that arbitrarily wasn't available in DA 2 in DA 3! Whoopty fuckin' doo. EA doesn't give Bioware time to do what they do best, write. and failed attempts at good writing will always turn out worse than soulless attempts at mediocre writing.
After the EC I've lost faith in bioware, they're getting worse and worse. They haven't had a great game since DAO and ME2; Tuchanka was the only truly great part of ME3. DA3 will be rehashing of DA2 minus the duplicated areas.
I blame EA rushing the development.
Quality over quantity in games. you'd think they would realize that after the most popular and fan-loved games came from a LONG development cycle(Blizzard and valve are companies that realize that)
EA is attempting to make every company they buy make popular games once a year at the minimum. And they base that on their FIFA series.
comes out once a year and lots of people buy the damned thing.
Quality is the most important thing in games. NEVER quantity.
I'd rather wait for a few months to play with something great then get some shit with a controller attached.
OT: i still try to have faith in Bioware. The only problem they have right now it seems is the rushed development time. Lets just hope EA falls out out of business before they take down all these great companies they absorbed.
Quality over quantity in games. you'd think they would realize that after the most popular and fan-loved games came from a LONG development cycle(Blizzard and valve are companies that realize that)
EA is attempting to make every company they buy make popular games once a year at the minimum. And they base that on their FIFA series.
comes out once a year and lots of people buy the damned thing.
Quality is the most important thing in games. NEVER quantity.
I'd rather wait for a few months to play with something great then get some shit with a controller attached.
OT: i still try to have faith in Bioware. The only problem they have right now it seems is the rushed development time. Lets just hope EA falls out out of business before they take down all these great companies they absorbed.
The DA franchise will be just like every other franchise. The first one was a huge success, so they rushed a sequel to cash in. The sequels will get progressively lazier and they'll keep making them as long as people are dumb enough to buy them... just like every successful "franchise starter" *sigh*
:/ I wasn't always a cynic, but in this day and age a realist and a cynic is pretty much the same thing.
:/ I wasn't always a cynic, but in this day and age a realist and a cynic is pretty much the same thing.
I actually enjoyed Dragon Age II ... granted I still found it had some major flaws and I don't think it was as polished as Dragon Age: Origins but there was something nice about having a more focused character experience (more similar to ME) which I know a lot of people just hated. As for the ME3 ending... was I shocked by it.. hell yeah... did I have an emotional reaction... yes, but it was not anger, it was sadness for my Shepard. I think the extended cut left me feeling a bit better because I got to see what happened to my companions which is the only reason why I choose control instead of kill... I wanted Edi to live.
So I feel confident that DA3 will have a good story ... and I am sure they are fixing the some of the larger problems with DA2 ... *cough cough* lack of diversity in areas to explore.
So I feel confident that DA3 will have a good story ... and I am sure they are fixing the some of the larger problems with DA2 ... *cough cough* lack of diversity in areas to explore.
And "treading the same waters" is a false statement. Kotor 2 was all about the nature of Force and the grey moral area that Jedi Masters step on constantly, seemingly knowing what's the right thing to do when they actually don'tAnthraxus said:
Kreia is a magnificent character and Atton Rand has very interesting personality traits that apparently spawned from his interactions with the various Jedi in his life
Wrong again.Mikeyfell said:
The only thing you can't change directly is armour (excluding shields), unless you count runes and upgrades.
To look at that and say you can't change anything is simply wrong.
Same here. ME3's ending was...acceptable. And dragon age 2 was fun, so yeah. It's all good.imahobbit4062 said:
But can you name another game that gives you class specific armor you can't use?Knight Templar said:
For the majority of the game I couldn't keep Anders (And by extension anyone) alive for more than 5 minutes and I had a bunch of mage armor in my inventory that would make him a lot tougher, that's also the reason I couldn't use Isabella or Fenris because they come into the party at a high level with no constitution, and I couldn't do anything about even though I had armor for rouges and warriors that would buff them enough to survive some battles.
The point is that you couldn't use 2/3 of the crap they gave you. They most likely did it on purpose because you can spend half of any RPG just rearranging your equipment, and RPG's don't have mass market appeal and yata yata yata EA marketing mumbo jumbo. Then they realize they fucked up and the only positive thing they can say at the Pax panel is that they'll let you put armor on your squad mates. and they make it sound like they're being SOOOOOO innovative when they're the ones that fucked up in the first place.
So maybe my first post should have said "There's no other game that gives you completely useless class specific armor"
I had always assumed DA3 was going to be about roaming around fixing the circles/templars...
My hope is that Bioware points to the negative reactions to DA2 and ME3 and go "see? let us do our own stuff!" (assuming, that is, that it was EA's oversight that forced the games into shiteness) and EA will want to actually have a future with Bioware, so it may end up being good... but that seems like wishful thinking
In either case, everyone will be regarding them with more suspicion now
My hope is that Bioware points to the negative reactions to DA2 and ME3 and go "see? let us do our own stuff!" (assuming, that is, that it was EA's oversight that forced the games into shiteness) and EA will want to actually have a future with Bioware, so it may end up being good... but that seems like wishful thinking
In either case, everyone will be regarding them with more suspicion now
I see why people might dislike it and call it disappointing in some respects, but I think the hate for it has been severely exaggereated. The short development cycle, the reuse of dungeons, the somewhat disjointed plot and that every combat scenario uses the wave system. I like the wave combat system as I think it adds to the strategic element of the games, which is a major reason for why I play and replay both DA:O and DA2, but I do agree that it wasn't really necessary to use for each and every fight.Wayne Mander said:
Still, despite all of that, I like the game and that's because the gameplay works and is fun. Nightmare is a real challenge in that game, harder than DA:O and mixing and matching different characters for maximum use of class combos is great.
As a Dragon Age Origins fan, personally I never had a problem with the smaller story focus. I thought it was a good concept, instead of saving the world it was the early lifetime of a hero who simply saved a town.worldruler8 said:
For me it was the actual game that was the problem. Bugs, copy pasted areas, less detail in areas than the first game in some cases, bad voice acting and dialogue and all of this was wrapped around with countless other little flaws. DA II seemed more like an RPG made by a less well off or startup developer. Almost like the current Game of Thrones RPG in fact.