So Dragon Age 3.... No Pressure?

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

It doesnt matter if its good or not, there will be a vocal group of haters tearing it apart.

Because some of Biowares 'fans' are just people who used to like Bioware and hate it now. I dont know why people keep getting so worked up. Its almost as if they believe that if they scream loud enough Bioware will magically go back in time to when it was at its peak.

 

[Korolev]

Unmitigated disaster? Yeah, DAII wasn't anywhere near as good as Dragon Age Origins, but it was hardly a "disaster".

Having said that, I am not anticipating Dragon Age III, unless they show proof that they are returning to the style of Dragon Age Origins. If they stick with the DAII format, I probably won't pick it up.

 

[voltair27]

Here's another thing. What the fuck is up with the new Qunari design? They look like frigging barbarians. Sten was more like a noble warrior with a philosopher's mind. The rest of the Qunari looked absolutely savage.

 

[Tomeran]

I will buy DA3, but my main worry with DA3 is on how it will continue from DA2(and DA1), and how they will piece the main character together. Perhaps this will be one of the few rpgs where you have "two" main characters and alternate between them, because the fanbase seems very split between wanting to control the warden from DA1 and Hawke from DA2. I still have faith in Bioware despite the shitstorm they've been through lately, but this particular problem is one I cant help but worry about.

 

[Mark Hardigan]

I think they're pulling out their hair... at least a bit. The poor player reception of DA2 and the ending of ME3 has left a sizeable chunk of the core base of Bioware in questionable standing in terms of whether or not they will buy/pre-order the game. A very large part of greenlights on future games is based upon both pre-order numbers and pure sale numbers (which is why companies try to push pre-orders so much nowadays).

I think because of DA2 and the debacle over ME3, that the number of pre-orders, if nothing else, is going to be significantly smaller than the pre-orders for DA2 or DA1. Additionally, I think the overall day one sales will likely also be lower for the same reasons. Many people within the core base are shaken in their faith that Bioware is still the monolith of CRPG excellence that they once were, and that's been showing more and more over the past few years, especially after the release of DA2 and even more-so now after the whole ME3 kerfuffle.

Overall, if DA3 doesn't sell well, I can see EA coming in and deciding that enough is enough with Bioware's independence and essentially do to them what they did to Mythic or Origin Systems, and Bioware will only exist in name only (if that), with its past magic and excellence gone. This isn't something that anyone wants to see happen, so if I were working on DA3, I would certainly feel under pressure.

 

[Mr Companion]

Its great to see people's fanboyism/fangirlism being replaced with a sort of fascinated observational attitude. After the Mass Effect 2 plotline thoroughly demonstrated where the franchise was going I taken to this attitude with Bioware games and now its way more fun than actually buying them. Same with with Fable, first game got me interested, second was a complete debacle. And now whenever I see people getting hyped over a new one its grimly enjoyable to watch their optimism collapse inevitably.

Edit: Oh and at a guess I would say Bioware's next step will be to put all their eggs in the dumdum crowd basket turning all their franchises into simplified action packed versions of the previous installment. All the beloved characters will end up swearing and posturing, all the promotional material will show violent flashy action with slick graphics spread thinly over core mechanics so basic a toddler could decipher it in moments. Just wait and see my chums.

 

[WonderWillard]

It doesnt matter if its good or not, there will be a vocal group of haters tearing it apart.

Because some of Biowares 'fans' are just people who used to like Bioware and hate it now. I dont know why people keep getting so worked up. Its almost as if they believe that if they scream loud enough Bioware will magically go back in time to when it was at its peak.

Pretty much. This probably goes for any game that Bioware will put out in the near future. Just wait for the first paid DLC for Mass Effect 3, there will be people calling for boycotts and other stupid shit.

 

[spartandude]

It doesnt matter if its good or not, there will be a vocal group of haters tearing it apart.

Because some of Biowares 'fans' are just people who used to like Bioware and hate it now. I dont know why people keep getting so worked up. Its almost as if they believe that if they scream loud enough Bioware will magically go back in time to when it was at its peak.

Pretty much. This probably goes for any game that Bioware will put out in the near future. Just wait for the first paid DLC for Mass Effect 3, there will be people calling for boycotts and other stupid shit.

well hey guess what, me and a bunch of my friends are already planning on boycotting ME3 DLC..... because we just didnt like the game, my god we must be attention seeking idiots

you know its amazing how just adding the word boycott to it (when your aleready not buying it) can invoke a negative reaction

 

[Fappy]

It doesnt matter if its good or not, there will be a vocal group of haters tearing it apart.

Because some of Biowares 'fans' are just people who used to like Bioware and hate it now. I dont know why people keep getting so worked up. Its almost as if they believe that if they scream loud enough Bioware will magically go back in time to when it was at its peak.

Pretty much. This probably goes for any game that Bioware will put out in the near future. Just wait for the first paid DLC for Mass Effect 3, there will be people calling for boycotts and other stupid shit.

well hey guess what, me and a bunch of my friends are already planning on boycotting ME3 DLC..... because we just didnt like the game, my god we must be attention seeking idiots

you know its amazing how just adding the word boycott to it (when your aleready not buying it) can invoke a negative reaction

Am I the only one still boycotting ME3 paid DLC because of the "From the Ashes" fiasco?

 

[Ziggy]

i don't see how anyone who played DA:O could even think that DA2 was anything but a pile of complete horse shit. it was worse in every conceivable way.

Easy DA1 had crappy combat.

DA2 had crappy things like the wave combat, and bosses with 1000000 health, but DA2's combat didn't put me to sleep.

My perfect Da3 would be DA1 but with DA2's combat speed.

Watching Sten take 5 seconds to swing a two handed sword isn't fun.

Not to change the topic but I actually liked the slower combat speeds of DAO, it gave the illusion that the weapons had weight and momentum. It complimented the relatively serious storyline. DA2 was too cartoony, the rogues would even flip over while attacking like they weighed nothing at all.

Talk about cartoony. The art design of the elves in DA2 was the worst offender. I hope they re-redesign them.

I liked that they made the elves clearly not human, but i feel kinda meh about the new design.

 

[Ziggy]

I recently went on there to see how EC was being received and found a huge thread of people complaining about how there should have been an option to

Spoiler

save Thane.

I facepalmed.

BSN wouldn't be happy unless there was a way to get an ending were no one dies, yet EVERYTHING works out in the best possible way for everyone.

People complained that you couldn't save Hawk's mom in DA2, it really didn't bother me because sometimes, no matter how good you are, you just cant save everyone.

Why the hell would people save Hawk's mom? The only person from Hawk's family that i likes was his uncle. Keep in mind that i never met Hawk's sister.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Why the hell would people save Hawk's mom? The only person from Hawk's family that i likes was his uncle. Keep in mind that i never met Hawk's sister.

Because people generally expect to be able to save every single person you ever meet in the game as long as you go through some stupidly long series of hoops so they can brag "I saved everyone on my playthrough".

People complained that you had to kill a vigilant of stendarr in Skyrim, as part of Molag Bal's daedric quest, and were DEMANDING that Bethesda put in some way to do the quest, save him, and still get the artifact.

 

[Phlakes]

The thing about Bioware is that people will buy the game anyway, and it'll be good, and be rated well (outside of user ratings of course). We'll still get a bunch of threads about how they've sold out and they're corrupted by EA and no one will ever buy anything they make again, and then the same thing will happen with the next game.

It definitely says a lot about the audience.

 

[Naqel]

First game lost me somewhere half way through.

By the time second one came about, I already decided to not purchase anything EA had something to do with, and it was supposedly rubbish anyway.

I have no interest in the third one and in fact, hope it fails.

 

[Jaeke]

Are you going to be Hawke again in DA3? I really don't wanna be Hawke again. I felt I wrapped up her story pretty good. She and Fenris disappeared to make little half-elf babies.

All I really hope about DA3 is they don't put in that whole `Thought you were done with combat? HA! Here are a bunch of more spawns!` thing. It was like trying to hang up on someone who wont stop talking.
I don't have massive hopes for DA3, but I hope it surprises me.

I think they pretty much confirmed it'd be neither Hawke nor the Warden (if you preformed the ritual that is.)

OT: Well... nope, nevermind. There's nothing left in my reserves for any hope regarding BioWare.

Captcha: Fast and Loose
It better not be.

 

[CoL0sS]

Don't expect or hope for anything. I'd like for it to be more like Origins, but considering shitstorms their recent games stirred up as well as the fact that they have to appeal to disappointed old fans and draw in new ones, all the while making a tidy profit....It's gonna be interesting.
Am I gonna get it? Pfff, I don't know, but I sure as hell ain't gonna pre-order it. One thing is for certain. As the game nears completion and they start to bother us with their marketing campaign a lot of debates will resurface between Bioware apologists and haters; much to the delight of anyone who just doesn't give a fuck anymore

Captcha: rum ho

Hellz yeah !

 

[crazyrabbits]

The thing about Bioware is that people will buy the game anyway, and it'll be good, and be rated well (outside of user ratings of course). We'll still get a bunch of threads about how they've sold out and they're corrupted by EA and no one will ever buy anything they make again, and then the same thing will happen with the next game.

It definitely says a lot about the audience.

Before ME3 came out, I'd say that would be the norm. However, in light of all the controversy they've courted over the last year, I'm not so sure. There are quite a few stories from people who blindly bought the game after loving the first two, and were immensely disappointed, to the point that they will second-guess any future decisions about new games from the developer.

I agree with Mark - there's a fair share of the hardcore fanbase that has already been marginalized and disenfranchised as a result of being lied to over and over again by a company they had complete faith in. That's enough to shake even the most ardent fanboys from their love of a series. The real gauge will be Bioware's next release, whether it's DAIII, the ME3 DLC or this Ultima revival they're trying to get off the ground. I could see BW transitioning into a clearing house for older franchises to get another chance (i.e. get that money).

 

[Fappy]

The thing about Bioware is that people will buy the game anyway, and it'll be good, and be rated well (outside of user ratings of course). We'll still get a bunch of threads about how they've sold out and they're corrupted by EA and no one will ever buy anything they make again, and then the same thing will happen with the next game.

It definitely says a lot about the audience.

Before ME3 came out, I'd say that would be the norm. However, in light of all the controversy they've courted over the last year, I'm not so sure. There are quite a few stories from people who blindly bought the game after loving the first two, and were immensely disappointed, to the point that they will second-guess any future decisions about new games from the developer.

I agree with Mark - there's a fair share of the hardcore fanbase that has already been marginalized and disenfranchised as a result of being lied to over and over again by a company they had complete faith in. That's enough to shake even the most ardent fanboys from their love of a series. The real gauge will be Bioware's next release, whether it's DAIII, the ME3 DLC or this Ultima revival they're trying to get off the ground. I could see BW transitioning into a clearing house for older franchises to get another chance (i.e. get that money).

I really can't see this Ultima thing going well for anyone to be honest.