So DRM doesn't stop piracy... what do you think developers should do instead?
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Stop making shitty games. Also, as people have said, stop making games that are five hours.
When I pirate or borrow stuff from people, I tend to do so when I have the feeling that it won't be that great. If it is, I'll buy it, legit like. That goes for all my media, generally.
When I pirate or borrow stuff from people, I tend to do so when I have the feeling that it won't be that great. If it is, I'll buy it, legit like. That goes for all my media, generally.
Personally, I'm a fan of that DLC thing Bioware has been doing lately. Give people nice bonuses for legitimately buying your game new.
I'm curious, would something like the Blizzard Authenticator key be a way to protect things?
I sense most people don't mind logging in at the start of a session so much, it's the rudeness of expecting to be able watch our every move while we play that irks people.
Personally however I think Steam has done the most to defeat piracy, and while it won't go away, all the time I can buy games simply, conveniently, and know they'll work, update and patch themselves and not cause me any hassle, I'll keep buying from Steam, especially when older games are so cheap it's hardly worth googling the game title with the word 'torrent'.
I also use GOG and D2drive, I just happen to prefer the steam setup.
Most people seem to be on the side of make the games attractive to genuine customers however, and DRM pushes against that, treating the customer like a criminal, and the criminal like a valued customer 'here's our game, with all the DRM stripped out, enjoy!'.
DLC, bonus content mailed out to genuine customers, anything like this can help.
I sense most people don't mind logging in at the start of a session so much, it's the rudeness of expecting to be able watch our every move while we play that irks people.
Personally however I think Steam has done the most to defeat piracy, and while it won't go away, all the time I can buy games simply, conveniently, and know they'll work, update and patch themselves and not cause me any hassle, I'll keep buying from Steam, especially when older games are so cheap it's hardly worth googling the game title with the word 'torrent'.
I also use GOG and D2drive, I just happen to prefer the steam setup.
Most people seem to be on the side of make the games attractive to genuine customers however, and DRM pushes against that, treating the customer like a criminal, and the criminal like a valued customer 'here's our game, with all the DRM stripped out, enjoy!'.
DLC, bonus content mailed out to genuine customers, anything like this can help.
its impossible... because no matter what is done,hackers will find a way around it. There is no way to find out who unless they break privacy laws.
There is no 100% way to beat piracy. Piracy is a fact of life. Though the steps taken to protect your software will affect how people play your games and who buys em.
Take for example Assassins Creed 2 for PC. Its probably one of the worst examples of DRM on the planet. Not only does it cut off a small but sizable chunk of the marker (people with no internet connection), it even puts the average user in a bind since now they have to make sure nothing happens while they're playing. AC2 proved that you can put too much DRM out to prevent the average user from playing
Yet, at the same time, too little protection can lead to massive piracy. I remember a few years back, I downloaded The Sims 2 and every expansion for it. On the install, it asked for a CD key and started installing right away. In the end, I just dropped a no-cd crack in and I just had $300 worth of sims games. Basically, it was as easy as stealing a candy bar from 7-11.
I think devs need to find that right balance. I feel with Steam, they've found a good balance. I'm not tied down by needing a 24/7 internet connection to play a single player game like Half Life 2 yet, though there are ways to pirate it, its not as simple as "Take me, I did nothing for DRM". Also, in the chance that "shit happens" to my PC, I don't have to worry about digging out hundreds of discs, entering serial keys, downloading patches from fileplanet at 15kbps and all the other hassles of the older games. Is Steam perfect? No. Is it a step in the right direction? For sure
Take for example Assassins Creed 2 for PC. Its probably one of the worst examples of DRM on the planet. Not only does it cut off a small but sizable chunk of the marker (people with no internet connection), it even puts the average user in a bind since now they have to make sure nothing happens while they're playing. AC2 proved that you can put too much DRM out to prevent the average user from playing
Yet, at the same time, too little protection can lead to massive piracy. I remember a few years back, I downloaded The Sims 2 and every expansion for it. On the install, it asked for a CD key and started installing right away. In the end, I just dropped a no-cd crack in and I just had $300 worth of sims games. Basically, it was as easy as stealing a candy bar from 7-11.
I think devs need to find that right balance. I feel with Steam, they've found a good balance. I'm not tied down by needing a 24/7 internet connection to play a single player game like Half Life 2 yet, though there are ways to pirate it, its not as simple as "Take me, I did nothing for DRM". Also, in the chance that "shit happens" to my PC, I don't have to worry about digging out hundreds of discs, entering serial keys, downloading patches from fileplanet at 15kbps and all the other hassles of the older games. Is Steam perfect? No. Is it a step in the right direction? For sure
Make better games that folks want to play.
MW2, MW, SCII, Total war series.. Halflife.. all that.. Does it not prove that good games sell?
But stuff as.. The darkest of days (or wahtever) that sucks balls does not sell at all?
Thats something they have to realice.. good games sell, bad games does not.
MW2, MW, SCII, Total war series.. Halflife.. all that.. Does it not prove that good games sell?
But stuff as.. The darkest of days (or wahtever) that sucks balls does not sell at all?
Thats something they have to realice.. good games sell, bad games does not.
Hell, that "you are a pirate" song playing constantly until you buy a proper copy of the game would be pretty fucking annoying XD
The whole thing that bioware is doing is good, offering an incentive to buy the game legit rather than preowned or pirated, either that or reduce the price of the game, I think piracy would be reduced a bit with a reduced price tag, after all at the end of the day pirates are after a free game the cheaper it is the more likely they are to buy it.
You'd have to mute the rest of the game too though. That might just do it...captaincabbage said: