So everyone... Bullies

[Dogstile]

So you committed assault (possibly aggravated) and you didn't go to jail, why?
I'm serious, this kind of thing would get anyone thrown out of whatever college they went to, no matter how much the bully "had it coming", you'd get sued and be in jail if this were true.

Why would he? I've been in plenty of fights when i've done much worse. It either doesn't get reported or you get a slap on the wrist.

Grade school and highschool fights usually don't get reported or are a slap on the wrist with the whole boys will be boys nonsense. But this is a college setting, legally 2 adults. Also the damage he described doing is borderline putting someone in the hospital, a broken nose and a fractured jaw isn't something you walk away from and are cool with the next day. And if you've done worse that means you've hospitalized people You think that putting someone in the hospital wouldn't be reported (because if you don't report it to the authorities the hospital will) or that putting someone in the hospital would be a slap on the wrist? The OP is lucky to be in the UK, cause in the US this definitely would, without an amazing lawyer, land him in jail. It's aggravated assault hands down, its not a case of two guys going at it. One guy pisses off another, the second waits and later jumps the guy and wails on him causing extensive injury.

Indeed I have. Slap on the wrist, as I said. I also live in the UK. I still don't even have a criminal record.

Although to be fair, he did hit me first, whereas the OP hit first. But this sort of thing doesn't often get reported here. There's been fights in shops where people have left with their jaws literally hanging off and the person who did it will usually get away with it.

Legal system doesn't catch everyone.

 

[Elidibus]

I wish I had an epic "Bully gets what he deserved" story to share with you guys. But alas, I didn't have the self esteem to fight back.

I did get bullied a whole lot, but 98% of it was verbal. And with me being extremely intelligent, it didn't bother me. In fact, some of these bullies would later "join my side" after I let them copy the answers from my test a few times. Then these guys (who were huge compared to my 60 pounds) would actually grab people that bullied me and hold them down and let me beat on them. That was very satisfying.

Unfortunately, I moved out of the are and in to another school. The bullying started again, but thankfully the Columbine shootings happened not too long after. I'm not gonna lie, the months and years after that were the most enjoyable time of my school life so far. I looked exactly like one of those kids down to the hair and everyone would joke around me me asking me not to kill them when (not if) I flipped out. And I did play up the "Quiet kid" thing a little bit too.

Then I entered high school and by then I was so far removed from the usual social circles that no one paid any attention to me. I even made a few friends and we formed our own little clique.

 

[hooksashands]

Sounds like you were a toughguy douchebag who flipped out over nothing. You're in college? I doubt it. This is like a situation that would happen in middle school. I don't admire you in the least for what you did, or that you think karma was served up when someone fell into drug addiction for doing things like *gasp* touching your hair. Out of the two people in your story, I sympathize with the guy you beat up, and you not at all.

 

[viranimus]

......are good for children, and good for society. Without Bullies would you have the largest bulk of your musicians, artists, Actors, comedians, designers? Would you have Steve Jobs, Bill Gates? Would those who were bullied have still grown to have the same drive to better themselves? Say what you will but selfish spite is a wonderful motivating factor.


Bullies do many great things for all of society, and usually end up making the ultimate sacrifice to do so. Ending up in miserable, broken lives. This campaign against bullying will have devastating effects and is absolutely nothing more than outright blatant bullying, and we must stop that bullying.

Wont someone think of the children.

 

[LordFisheh]

......are good for children, and good for society. Without Bullies would you have the largest bulk of your musicians, artists, Actors, comedians, designers? Would you have Steve Jobs, Bill Gates? Would those who were bullied have still grown to have the same drive to better themselves? Say what you will but selfish spite is a wonderful motivating factor.


Bullies do many great things for all of society, and usually end up making the ultimate sacrifice to do so. Ending up in miserable, broken lives. This campaign against bullying will have devastating effects and is absolutely nothing more than outright blatant bullying, and we must stop that bullying.

Wont someone think of the children.

But bullying and hardship aren't necessary for greatness, they just help to force it out. By your logic regulated, systematic torment of all children would be a good thing because it would cause more to 'snap' and do something great.

Of course, you're turning a blind eye to the ones who are broken by the process, who may themselves miss out on an opportunity to become great due to, say, social anxiety. Form a totally utilitarian perspective, it's a high risk strategy that could create more motivated individuals at the expense of doing significant damage to the unlucky. And two individuals are hardly compelling proof that the majority of great people were motivated by being bullied as a child.

Out of interest, you wouldn't happen to be/have been a bully yourself would you? Because it would be awfully tempting to think that you were doing something secretly heroic and positive, and suffering unjustly at the hands of a world that just doesn't appreciate what you've done for it.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Let see-

Back when I was 7, three kids often chase me around school but it was their leader who was the main bully. He was chubby but not obsess, had blond hair and spoke with a girl voice. Eventually we became friends somehow (well he was no longer hostile toward me). I have no idea how that happen.

Somewhere at the first year of high school the popular guy in my class bully me for no reason (not physical, he often called me names and break my colour pens whenever I let him borrow it). Similar to above we too became friend (which I was glad since we was an cool guy) sometime later. I became his to go to guy when it come to asain films and animes stuff.

Some years later another cool guy (he was the school drummers and has a famous guitarist as an relative) in the same class bully me for no reason aswell. Unlike the above who was verbal, he was more phyiscal. He "accidentally" hit me with his metal ruler which does hurt alot and trip me up. Seriously he had a grude against me since I saw him kicking my bag placed among the others which he was clearly targeting my bag.
Honestly I want to know why he had a grudge against me since I had always view him to be an alright guy.

 

[ShindoL Shill]

in order to deal with them pretend to be insane in order to scare them and act bipolar around them once youve scared them.

even better than acting bipolar, act like you've never even met them. for example:
"oi, ya prick!"
"i'm sorry, who are you? i think you've mistaken me for someone else, mate."
it works wonders.
especially if you follow it up by standing outside their house at midnight, grinning like a loony bastard.

......are good for children, and good for society. Without Bullies would you have the largest bulk of your musicians, artists, Actors, comedians, designers? Would you have Steve Jobs, Bill Gates? Would those who were bullied have still grown to have the same drive to better themselves? Say what you will but selfish spite is a wonderful motivating factor.


Bullies do many great things for all of society, and usually end up making the ultimate sacrifice to do so. Ending up in miserable, broken lives. This campaign against bullying will have devastating effects and is absolutely nothing more than outright blatant bullying, and we must stop that bullying.

Wont someone think of the children.

thats just the batman effect. his parents were killed in front of him, therefore he bettered himself to remove crime. it worked on spidey, luke skywalker, anakin (to some extent) and dante (of DMC fame)

 

[noobium]

I only was bullied before I went to high school. I guess having a wearing all black,facial piercings, and a 9 inch blood red mohawk tends to make people not wanna fuck with you.

 

[Howard Kuo]

I was bullied a lot throughout mandatory education. I once stabbed a bully in the chest with a pencil. (Strange enough we became friends) I didn't like myself when I turned to violence. Bullies just want to see you sad in any way shape or form. I learned sarcasm and backhanded comments to defend myself.

 

[The Funslinger]

Nah. I made it very clear by highschool that I was outside of the social hierarchy. Of course, I had no friends, girls never talked to me, and whenever I was mentioned (rarely), it was never in a positive light. But that cliché that its the quiet ones you have to look out for? I played it straight and was left alone for it.

Yeah, I'm sort of like that. I do have an increasing amount of friends, but I'm quite quiet, and ignore quite a lot of people. I do get some ribbing, but ever since it got out that I was stabbed, and then punched out the guy who'd done it, people seem to be careful about crossing any lines. That said, I got my share in primary school and secondary school. (I'm British)

 

[Jakub324]

I was, in year 7 through to 9. Then, I floored two of them (in a fit of rage)and never got bothered again.

 

[Sara Fontaine]

I was bullied my entire school life. It all started in Reception (I dunno if they have that in America, but it's sort of holding pen between Nursery and Year/Grade 1)> I got chosen to take the lead role in some ridiculous play and this other, more popular girl didn't. That was the kick-off. From then on I didn't really catch a break. One time this girl and her friends got a boy to push me off a wall from behind; landed right on my face, and was lucky my nose didn't break. Another time they all ran around me in a circle chanting 'nobody likes you, nobody likes you'; when you're five, that hurts, I'm telling you. Of course my school work suffered, and I'd make excuses or just outright beg not to go in. The teachers were absolutely useless; my parents even went as far as accusing them of condoning the violence. Their idea of stopping the bullying was taking the bullies inside the school building in the dry and the warm and leaving me to stand out in the playground while it tipped it down with rain.

High school wasn't any better; the popular blonde 'It girl' had followed me. Things became violent, but the mental aspect carried on also. I was knocked down stairs, pushed into puddles and mud, threatened... abused basically, because it IS abuse. Even the boys did it to try and gain favour with the 'popular' girls; they pushed me into desks or into walls. One lad asked me what gave me the right to exist because no one liked me, and another even slapped me full in the face and tried to cut my hair off with scissors. One good soul tipped me off in my last year at school that fifteen of them were planning to jump me after school finished and try and put me in hospital because they said I was weird and I deserved it and it wouldn't matter if they hurt me because no one cares. If anybody took any interest in being my friend, or they found out a boy supposedly fancied me, they'd stop it dead, making up rumours about me to put them off. Low and behold; the teachers did nothing again, instead asking why I was sent to the school when they knew this other girl would be there (I should point out, I live two streets away from that school. She lived in an entirely different area, and only got accepted into that school cuz her grandparents live on my street). I got sent to counselling with Connexions, a young persons help group, which is closed down now. Instead of counselling they sat me there with the kids who wouldn't work because they were too badly behaved and just ignored me. Again, I would beg not to be forced into school, I'd spend nights crying and asking 'why me' and wishing the ground would swallow me. I never attempted suicide, or any sort of self harm, though I will admit I came damn close.. I had nobody really for my entire education I could call a friend; every now and again someone would take pity on me but it wouldn't last long or they'd have been dared to do it.

It's affected me deeply; I'm more inclined to be on my own than go out and meet people, hate social interaction in person and I'm deeply mistrustful, sarcastic and pessimistic about everything, though I have managed to get a relationship somehow that's still going on six years later.
Bullying is a serious issue, and I have a really negative view of these people who say they're zero-tolerance but don't/won't prove it. My teachers said they were zero-tolerance, but they did nowhere near enough to help me, or others, because I wasn't the only one. I truly think because I was shy, timid, tall, lanky and (I suppose) a natural loner and would rather stay quiet and keep to myself, that my teachers thought I was just a 'born victim', and when I did actually approach them for help they wouldn't take me seriously and tell me to stop being dramatic. Not enough is done in schools to stop it, at all.

I realise that this post is ridiculously long, but you've probably realised by now that I find it easier to communicate online where no one can see my face, and these are things that I haven't spoken about this openly at all, not even to my parents or my partner. They say you shouldn't let it get to you, but it's hard, you know? So really, I guess I should thank the OP for starting this thread and giving me somewhere to speak frankly, and if anyone's actually managed to read all that, then thanks, even if you think I'm just a whinger

 

[The Funslinger]

Had a discussion in college about this today so, nice timing.

I used to be bullied in school for being blind. People used to trip me and take my stuff when they were on my blind side. In my 10th grade year I was given a cane to see if it would help me maneuver in crowded areas, instead of using it for that purpose, I beat down one of the more annoying bullies with the cane. Not enough to do any serious damage, just enough to get the point across.

On the down side I got the cane taken away, on the plus side no one bullied me since.

I cannot condone using violence to solve bullying problems, but it definitely works.

Okay, fuck that. No matter how bad people have been, in my experience, anyone with a disability (no offense) is off limits. Dicks.

 

[Suicida1 Midget]

Only had one fight (not organized sparring) during my high school years. As a sophmore a friend of my brothers suddenly grew a pair since he started to go out with someone my brother wanted to date. Didnt bug me until he started to talk trash about me. I dont get rallied up about that kinda stuff. Then a few months latter he tells people that i said, i forgot what the exact stuff was, but it was about my family this time. Then i made it known and offical that his ass on mine. The whole time on the bus ride home he keeps on saying i was too much of a puss to do it. By the time he gets off i shout hay dumbass, in front of his sister, on his lawn and as he turns to see it coming i punch him straight in the face.

I aint one of those guys on roids, if someone looked at me they think weak, unfit. But tapered muscles are deceving. So as i continue to punch him. He takes me down, grabinb my hair, punches me once, but gets met with two upper cuts to the chin. He tries to armbar me, but i use his move to literally pull him into my punches.

Then his cop dad comes out with only his pants on, flyis wide open. I lose focus on the whole fight, almost laughing at the site. He breaks it up and pulling me to a side he says, 'do you know who i am?' to which i respond with, 'a practically naked piece of turkey bacon?'
He seemed shocked by that statment so i repeated it. He goes on to tell me that he could have me arrest and stuff, and i respond with i could shout rape. Ending with a get the hell off my lawn.

Now not only did i get out of that without police records, but the guys on the bus watched it, so everyone now had witnesses saying what a wrothless piece of crap he was. His girlfriend threatened to kick my ass. (LOL). Then for the rest of the week he had an interesting shades of greens, browns, and purples showing up. In differnt places for those two days. ( i think he used makeup or something. All it cost me was the inablity to write for two days.(Hands were too swollen to do much of anything.)

 

[WOPR]

*snip*
I have no clue why you're quoting me, maybe your case is different, but in the OPs case I personally do not see it as a justified act in retaliation to basically commit aggravated assault (and getting away scott-free)and trumpet it as an accomplishment.

I- I don't know why I quoted you either... oh man I must have been really tired haha
sorry bout that

 

[Sgt. Dante]

For a while, I pretty much ignored it and kept walking. But a few years through high school I got big, 6.3" big.

Wonder where those guys are now; last I heard one got a girl pregnent, flaked his responsibility, then ran away down south; one was in jail and one is addicted to some drug or another.

 

[Zayle79]

I was only bullied in 8th grade, but it was pretty bad. IT was in a "business technology" class,and the classroom itself contributed to it; there were PCs against all the walls but one, where the teacher's desk was, and there was another row of them down the middle of the classroom, horizontal to the teacher so that she couldn't actually see the students on the other side of it.

I had three bullies; apparently, I was very important. one of them just constantly insulted me, so he wasn't too bad. The other two would hit me all the time. They would casually chat about the best punching techniques as they tested them on my arms. They really got on my nerves, and one time I almost lost it, which would have been bad, considering that two of them were way bigger than me.

I think one of them was just venting his insecurities on me; he was Puerto-Rican and his hands were deformed, and he got made fun of a lot. The other two were just assholes, I think.

Anyway, these guys had a habit of, er, sexually stimulating themselves during class. And once, one of them saw to it that the evidence of the aforementioned self-stimulation wound up on my foot (I was wearing flip-flops). I was petrified. I never wore those flip-flops again, and, being the obsessive clean-freak that I am, I took a really, really long shower when I got home.

Thankfully, when I went to high school, one of them was held back for truancy, and the other two were sent to one of those schools for juvenile delinquents.

 

[LetalisK]

Never bullied at my school. They cracked down hard on that shit. Being a damn-near religious institute might have had something to do with that.

 

[Tonimata]

Oh yeah, I've had my share, but it seems so far away it almost seems like it happened to someone else. I do remember one occassion where I broke a wall by pushing my bully into it. Yes, I'm overpowered

 

[JochemDude]

I can take bulling I really don't give a shit what people say about me. However even they know not to get physical, I will beat them and I won't stop beating them.