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azraelthor

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Yokai said:
The stereotypical hipster is a myth. There's no subculture of people who are arrogant, pretentious douchebags. The term is used broadly and pointlessly to describe anyone whose views differ from that of the user, and has the nerve to defend their views. It's entirely subjective, in no small part due to the fact that "mainstream" is also subjective.

The problem is that large swaths of perfectly good culture and ideas have become somehow associated with being a hipster, which is always seen as a bad thing. Not everyone who could be described as such is arrogant and pretentious, of course--whatever group you associate yourself with does not define your personality.

So we have normal people who simply have different tastes from whatever the established mainstream currently is (which changes just as much as the current trends) labeled as douchebags by virtue of not liking the same things as some other people, who may not even be the majority.

Now I may be a little biased because I live in Portland, which the rest of the world seems to believe is 95% hipsters. I'm okay with that, because what I see is 95% normal people with a variety of tastes and ideals. Some of you would probably consider me a hipster. Oh well. I don't lord it over people, and neither does the majority of the "hipster" population.

It's a surprisingly meaningless term, when you actually stop to think about it.
Really? I live like 20 mins from Portland and have never even heard of it being extremely hipster...or do you mean that fake Portland on the west coast? And main steam is actually rather easy to define, I will give you some examples, Anythign made be EA or Activision, Anything you can find on best-selling book lists, blockbuster movies, mainstream=popular and popular sells, alot, so therefore mainstream sells, alot. Hipsters dislike mainsteam because it is mainstream, not because they actually dislike it all, and they live obscure/indie because it is obscure/indie, and they pride themselves as being better then everyone who does like mainstream things
 

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Where I went to college, the hipster was not so elusive. In the art's block, it was the freaking norm. A sea of them. The whole shebang: foppy haircut, buddy holiday glasses, skinny jeans and a scarf or waistcoat or some such. Everywhere.
 

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Just because some people like certain things, society labels them a hipster.
Its like how I'm a fat greasy nerd for simply playing video games.
Do you mean like since I am one of only two people that wears a brand that I could be called a hipster even though I am not?
 

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You are a hipster and so is everyone else on this website. We're the cool kids who talk about games and grad notions of art and scoff at lowly causal and games and brown games and FPS clones, and other generic hipster comments and pretentiousness. I don't think its about any particular item o much as the hip nature and pretensions. This site has them.
 

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You know the guy who wear Kanye West looking sunglasses, a trilby, a sports coat, skinny jeans, a black and red plaid scarf, converse and an obscure band (one that you also haven't heard of because it's "not mainstream"(I'm tired of hipsters telling me Asking Alexandria is undeground...NOT IT'S NOT!)) t-shirts? That's a hipster and so is anyone who looks like them.
 

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azraelthor said:
Really? I live like 20 mins from Portland and have never even heard of it being extremely hipster...or do you mean that fake Portland on the west coast? And main steam is actually rather easy to define, I will give you some examples, Anythign made be EA or Activision, Anything you can find on best-selling book lists, blockbuster movies, mainstream=popular and popular sells, alot, so therefore mainstream sells, alot. Hipsters dislike mainsteam because it is mainstream, not because they actually dislike it all, and they live obscure/indie because it is obscure/indie, and they pride themselves as being better then everyone who does like mainstream things
Di... did you just call my Portland fake?


Other than that, you have it pretty spot on.
 

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Only heard the term a few days ago and frankly I couldnt give shit what somebody wears or does.... I mean why would you o_O
 

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This is now the official soundtrack to this topic..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_5uVdy5YmA&feature=player_embedded

OT: well... I see them all the time at the malls.
 

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Really? Don't see any of these things walking around? Usually self proclaimed visionaries or alternate. I see them everywhere, usually around universities and colleges.
That picture isn't obscure enough for me.

But in all seriousness, as I writer I have to deal with a lot of those people.
 

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Matthew Kjonaas said:
PixelKing said:
Just because some people like certain things, society labels them a hipster.
Its like how I'm a fat greasy nerd for simply playing video games.
Do you mean like since I am one of only two people that wears a brand that I could be called a hipster even though I am not?
Quite possibly, I'd just ignore it. You are what you are, you wear what you wear.
 

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Do a hipster check list shall we. Now if any of these things apply to you, well you might be hipster.

1. Do you self roll your own cigs.

2. Do you drink Pabst Blue Ribbon

3. Do you wear converse sneakers

4. Do you hang out in coffee shops for no reason

5. Do you shop at vintage clothing shops

6. Are you an annoying little piss ant who will change your trend when it starts becoming popular.
 

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I was a hipster before being a hipster was hip.

My mom was a "hipster" back in the 90's, and i think it ended up rubbing off of me. While i dont "officially" think im a hipster, its kinda the truth. I pick up trends before most people, and then i complain about it when everyone else copys it.

You know that hoodie phase that started back in like? All me baby. I went to school in one ((with a really nice scarf by the way)) and i wore on every day. Two weeks later, BAM! Every kid in the school ((of nearly 1200 mind you)) had a pair of hoodies crammed in theyre locker. ((A zip up, and a pull over))
Of course, i bring it up, and most people are like, "no way! You didnt start it! D:<"
And im all, "No. I didnt. But baby, 8) i was there when it happened." <--- Hipster Voice.

While im a bit of a hipster, im not one of the snooty ones though, who act like everything was better before people learned about it. Sure, somethings are, but society needs trends to help it move forward.
 

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I don't really care for the "official" definition of what a hipster is.

To me, anyone who pays a lot of money to look like they don't have any or belong to some subculture they don't know the first thing about is a "hipster". So for me, there are hipster nerds, hipster gothics, hipster punks and so forth, but the plain "hipster" is someone who wears ripped jeans, looks like he hasn't had a shower in a long time, whose clothes don't match in any way known to humankind and payed more money for that than I did on my entire wardrobe.

My former flatmate was a hipster and god, was she a nuisance. She would own records (never listen to them, just have them lying around) and adorne herself with videogame symbols although the only two games she ever played were plants vs. zombies and Portal. Because they were "the shit".
 

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Grimlock Fett said:
Daniel Forman said:
Im a hipster, hell i wouldn't have responded to this thread if it didn't have so little replies, so its still not mainstream :D
By calling yourself a "hipster" dont you automatically become not a a hipster?
Nope, im hipster before being hipster becomes mainstream, now, i have to go learn how to play the harp, the instrument of the hipsters >___>
 

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Tenmar said:
I am a republican but I'll tell you whenever I saw those people dressed like that and espoused neo-conservative philosophy it just made me roll my eyes because none of them actually did have any college friends that were part of the ROTC or Marines.
That seems to be a running theme with hipsters: "Pick an unpopular minority and assign yourself to it unwaveringly, despite having no idea of what it means."

I don't care for the true definition of hipsters, I'd prefer to label anyone who purposely likes unpopular things to be hipster so that people who are genuinely different aren't stuck with a negative label.
 

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GrimTuesday said:
azraelthor said:
Really? I live like 20 mins from Portland and have never even heard of it being extremely hipster...or do you mean that fake Portland on the west coast? And main steam is actually rather easy to define, I will give you some examples, Anythign made be EA or Activision, Anything you can find on best-selling book lists, blockbuster movies, mainstream=popular and popular sells, alot, so therefore mainstream sells, alot. Hipsters dislike mainsteam because it is mainstream, not because they actually dislike it all, and they live obscure/indie because it is obscure/indie, and they pride themselves as being better then everyone who does like mainstream things
Di... did you just call my Portland fake?


Other than that, you have it pretty spot on.
Would Copy be better? How about Your portland is my Portlands Ganger?
 

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azraelthor said:
GrimTuesday said:
azraelthor said:
Really? I live like 20 mins from Portland and have never even heard of it being extremely hipster...or do you mean that fake Portland on the west coast? And main steam is actually rather easy to define, I will give you some examples, Anythign made be EA or Activision, Anything you can find on best-selling book lists, blockbuster movies, mainstream=popular and popular sells, alot, so therefore mainstream sells, alot. Hipsters dislike mainsteam because it is mainstream, not because they actually dislike it all, and they live obscure/indie because it is obscure/indie, and they pride themselves as being better then everyone who does like mainstream things
Di... did you just call my Portland fake?


Other than that, you have it pretty spot on.
Would Copy be better? How about Your Portland is my Portlands Ganger?
If you don't cease these slights upon my city, we shall have to meet on the Field of Honor,[footnote]Its kind of like The Field of Dreams, except we shoot each other for honor instead of playing baseball[/footnote], Pistols, at noon (Pacific time, because that's the time zone of the best Portland). I feel I must warn you, I'm a crack duelist, and my pistols haven't tasted the blood of an East Coast... person, as of late. :D

Unfortunately, when people say Portland they think of my Portland, so there, HA!
 

azraelthor

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GrimTuesday said:
azraelthor said:
GrimTuesday said:
azraelthor said:
Really? I live like 20 mins from Portland and have never even heard of it being extremely hipster...or do you mean that fake Portland on the west coast? And main steam is actually rather easy to define, I will give you some examples, Anythign made be EA or Activision, Anything you can find on best-selling book lists, blockbuster movies, mainstream=popular and popular sells, alot, so therefore mainstream sells, alot. Hipsters dislike mainsteam because it is mainstream, not because they actually dislike it all, and they live obscure/indie because it is obscure/indie, and they pride themselves as being better then everyone who does like mainstream things
Di... did you just call my Portland fake?


Other than that, you have it pretty spot on.
Would Copy be better? How about Your Portland is my Portlands Ganger?
If you don't cease these slights upon my city, we shall have to meet on the Field of Honor,[footnote]Its kind of like The Field of Dreams, except we shoot each other for honor instead of playing baseball[/footnote], Pistols, at noon (Pacific time, because that's the time zone of the best Portland). I feel I must warn you, I'm a crack duelist, and my pistols haven't tasted the blood of an East Coast... person, as of late. :D

Unfortunately, when people say Portland they think of my Portland, so there, HA!
Do I get to meet Darth Vader/Mufasa? and you do have a point there, although I like how you included unfourtunately
 

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During my previous study, Artificial Intelligence, there were several people who could be roughly identified as such.

Besides the, imho, silly dress code I found them slightly pretentious.

Putting a lot of effort into making an intellectual and liberal impression but never actually seeming to have any discussions worth of note about serious topics. Mostly talking about where to hang out, which music was hip etc.

I don't really care much about them either way. I generally leave them alone and they generally leave me alone, it's worked so far.
 

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azraelthor said:
GrimTuesday said:
azraelthor said:
GrimTuesday said:
azraelthor said:
Really? I live like 20 mins from Portland and have never even heard of it being extremely hipster...or do you mean that fake Portland on the west coast? And main steam is actually rather easy to define, I will give you some examples, Anythign made be EA or Activision, Anything you can find on best-selling book lists, blockbuster movies, mainstream=popular and popular sells, alot, so therefore mainstream sells, alot. Hipsters dislike mainsteam because it is mainstream, not because they actually dislike it all, and they live obscure/indie because it is obscure/indie, and they pride themselves as being better then everyone who does like mainstream things
Di... did you just call my Portland fake?


Other than that, you have it pretty spot on.
Would Copy be better? How about Your Portland is my Portlands Ganger?
If you don't cease these slights upon my city, we shall have to meet on the Field of Honor,[footnote]Its kind of like The Field of Dreams, except we shoot each other for honor instead of playing baseball[/footnote], Pistols, at noon (Pacific time, because that's the time zone of the best Portland). I feel I must warn you, I'm a crack duelist, and my pistols haven't tasted the blood of an East Coast... person, as of late. :D

Unfortunately, when people say Portland they think of my Portland, so there, HA!
Do I get to meet Darth Vader/Mufasa? and you do have a point there, although I like how you included unfourtunately
No, you most certainly do not get to meet James Earl Jones, he will be serving coffee on the Field of Refreshments, but you're not invited.

And the unfortunately, was in the context of unfortunately for you.