So I just got jumped last night...

[razer17]

Not long ago three guys tried to mug me. They came up behind me in a small alleyway, asked me what I had on me, then on of them moved behind me to trap me, and said "we can do this the easy way or the hard way". It was such a cheesy line I kind of wanted to laugh.

On of them grabbed my arm ,but I yanked it free and legged it. Luckily it was still the middle of the day, and there were people around so they didn't follow. I'm an easy target, too. I can't fight and I'm not fast, so if you fail to mug me you should probably take up a different profession.

 

[Matthew McDonald]

the OP also preferenced their post, saying tehy know Krav maga (sure I misspelled it). people can lie, but why they would bother online...

Why would people bother lying online???? There are people online who tell the truth??? I am truly astounded that anyone believed the OP here...It's not even a believable lie...

 

[William MacKay]

excuse me sir but you happen to be batman
ok I will answer your question
We live in a bad world a very bad world

i agree with this 100%. the world is fucked up and so are the people. theyre desperate.
also, only batman can fight 5 people and survive by jumping onto a train barefoot.

 

[emeraldrafael]

the OP also preferenced their post, saying tehy know Krav maga (sure I misspelled it). people can lie, but why they would bother online...

Why would people bother lying online???? There are people online who tell the truth??? I am truly astounded that anyone believed the OP here...It's not even a believable lie...

I just siad I dont know why they would. Never said he was or wasnt.

 

[Atheist.]

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Actually yes, multiple fights over the years which includes weapons. Your story is so full of holes it could pass as swiss cheese. Passenger train? People would have been there. Freight Train? People would have been there. Both instances mean you would have never had to walk home. Even then, how did you get off? A train station has people there. How did you get off without anyone noticing? If you jumped off in motion, the force of the tumble would have killed you if the train didn't suck you under it. At the station, you could have asked for a phone and never had to walk home or any nearby store unless it was the dead of night. However, if the train is still running then its destination must still have people there.

Then, real muggers use weapons. Regular Kevlar can't even protect against a knife, and a baseball bat is a one hit weapon. Once you're hit with a baseball bat by a real mugger, you're down for the count from the force. Guns? At point blank you can't dodge that. A group of muggers? They would have over powered you by force. Training? All that training goes out the window unless you expect it. Muggers go by surprise, not by walking out like a 18th century rifleman battalion.

The human brain takes time to come to terms to what its seeing in an unexpected event, especially when its under fire. Being blindsided is unexpected, and would take precious seconds you don't have to think of a way to get out of it. Since you took out one guy without that standard reaction time, your story is questionable due to scientific evidence of the brain. This is the same method used to tell if someone expected something or not. Muggers go for money, I never heard any case that involved shoes being taken in a normal mugging. Taking someone's shoes is normally done to tourists who hide their cash in their shoes. Even then, the practice is normally done in third world countries or in severely destitute areas.

Timmibal covered the rest. You're story is full of holes, and you make no other rebuttal other than "you're wrong." Again, no evidence while I point out the holes in the story. If you try to tell us what happened, details are needed beyond the basics especially if its extraordinary. Otherwise, it sounds like something out of a Batman comic.

I made an attempt to read through your post kid. I really did. You are seriously misinformed. You honestly have no idea what happens in industrial trains. Don't claim you do, because you clearly just portrayed you don't. Do I need to prove my martial arts to you? Do we need to prove the degree that "we do?" I'm in a Krav Maga group and most of us can hold our own. Not being hostile, but being ignorant is beyond painful. You're so full of holes my noes can blow a hole though it. A whole so big, you'll miss tomorrow. Back off.

So its an industrial train, yet you never explain how you got off. If you're not willing to give details, I will assume you're a troll. A cop would have asked these kinds of questions as they are basic questions, yet you fail to answer every one of them and dodge them. How is that even possible? You go against scientific evidence, basic motive and behavior of a normal mugger, basic logic, basic continuity, and even dodge the questions entirely with NO BACKING beyond petty comebacks and denial. If it did happen to you, then you would have answered all these questions easily instead of resorting to slippery slope logical fallacies. Timmibal was the best in showing the problems with your story, and refuse to answer a single one as well.

Sorry I was on vacation for the weekend so I haven't had time to respond. I jumped off the bridge, did a semi roll upon landing, and I jumped off a bit down the line. You have to remember, the train was only going 10mph, so it isn't hazardous to jump off of. It was at night, there were no witnesses so I didn't call a cop. My word isn't exactly enough evidence and I didn't know their names. I'm not being a troll, I just don't have time to spend every hour on this website, I already have a backlog of like 20 quotes to respond to right now, so sorry if I can't get to every single person. You have to understand that after reading the same accusations repeatedly it gets a bit taxing.

Off topic, the lake was awesome even though I was sore as hell. Sun burned pretty bad, though.

 

[Atheist.]

20 feet... About 6 meters, right? So, you'd be hitting that train at about... 30 km/h. Ought to break a leg, hitting hard surface you can't even roll on to lessen the impact force.

Twenty feet is definitely doable. I have done it in the past as a teenager. Perhaps I should throw out This Link . Some random drunk dude falling 50 feet, compared to a sober guy jumping 20. Which seems safer?

Sorry, but I simply don't believe that you are judging this right, as do a lot of other people. Cool story as it may be, I can't really believe you fell 5 metres, let alone 6.

Alright, I don't really care. Not trying to be a dick, but this was in a familiar location. I know the bridge height, and I'm not trying to brag. While 20 feet is a decent drop, it's not life threatening. Either you're misinformed, or you're calling me a liar. Either way, you're disrespectful. I wouldn't be an ass to you if you got mugged, why the hell are you doing it to me? Are you seriously such a bad person you'd pick on a crime victim?

Massive amounts of sympathy dude but and this is a big but if you did fall 20 feet you'd be hitting the train at 60m/s not including the trains horizontal velocity which would add a whole other set of forces into this (hurrah for basic physics) and if you didn't roll on impact you would break your legs no matter how athletic you are, 20ft falls onto metal/concrete are predominantly fatal unless you land and roll correctly.

I'm not calling you a liar I just think this bit is somewhat exaggerated.

I'm pretty sure you miscalculated that. 20 feet isn't even 9.8 meters, which is what gravity is in m/s^2. At that point I'd be moving closer to 7m/s at that point since I would have been falling less than a second.

Edit: Just did the math, it's 1.1 seconds of air time so just under 11m/s.

 

[bluewolf]

I got mugged once by a kid in my class, he had a knife i kicked him in the face and broke his jaw. The next day at school I almost got expeled. Next time I`ll just run like alittle *****.

 

[Atheist.]

I thought I saw someone ask this earlier, and I maybe have missed the response but....why are you on the escapist instead of a hospital to check for injuries? Or sleeping? I got in a fight with 2 girls before, and I just completely crashed from exhaustion after the adrenaline kick died at the emergency room.
Secondly, have you reported this to the police?

Yeah....not going to get that answer, am i?

Sorry for the delay, as I just said I've been on a mini-vacation, and there is a large volume of posts when I originally made this thread and had to skim them, I likely just overlooked yours.

I'll answer your last question first. There are no cameras in the area, and the only witness is me, the victim. I didn't recognize the people, so I don't exactly have names. Reporting it just seems pointless, and several days have passed at this point.

I couldn't sleep because of the adrenaline at that point. I don't have health insurance, so unless I'm dying, unfortunately I'm not going to the emergency room. I've been in accidents before so I'm fairly familiar with assessing myself and my injuries. I know it's possible to miss things, but it didn't feel critical at the time. I just needed to get home and vent a little bit, but I don't want my friends and family to worry so I decided to post it online instead.

Also, another reason I failed to respond right away is because I was too busy simply replying to the quotes to notice, so sorry about that. I'm really not trying to ignore people here, but as I've said a few posts ago I simply lack the time.

 

[Atheist.]

I guess we can no longer believe any news source that doesn't have a video feed. Although... Even then it could be photoshopped!!! Shit! What ever will we do for news now. We can't even believe our eyes. Honestly, as said before, I'm not trying to hate. You are simply wrong. Every news article is written by a single person. Every book is too. Most online videos are also from a single person. You disbelieve me, and you set the merit for them all. I agree some are wrong, but the way you put your argument, we all are.

Before I get pounced on for attacking you, I'm not, I'm educating the masses with this argument. See, we have a little thing with news sources which is basically that if they lie to us, they can get taken to court for being misleading IF someone approaches them. Now, most people won't try to incur that wrath and will uphold this code, at most though a person will take facts and weave them into a different story. When a story is made, it's taken as an opinion of events, like detectives on CSI. Facts are facts though and no matter which way about it, they cannot be made up. Brought up at the wrong time and used out of context yes, but if you make up facts in a news source, you're pretty much screwed for life, unless you're lucky.

Also, I'm not kidding here, I really REALLY want to believe your story, but the acurracy that it's told at compared to the actual event...I just can't get my head around it. If I got mugged, I would not have recalled it being a certain sized bridge I fell off. The fact you can acurrately recall (or roughly guestimate) a speed of 10 mph is quite incredible too. All I'm saying is, if it were me, I'd have only recalled simple facts. Something like:

"Hey guys, so I got mugged by 5 guys, while I was on a bridge on the way home. They pretty much surrounded me so after trying the self-defence option I could only flee by jumping off the bridge. Fortunately there was a train going underneath at a considerably slow speed which managed to break my fall somewhat. Since they took my shoes (and my wallet) I had to walk home barefoot from the station where the train had come to stop. Been a bit of a rough night tbh."

The fact that no-one appeared to be at the station or on the train either is a bit interesting, but I'm willing to believe that on the simple grounds that I have witnessed "My Little Pony" becoming more popular than "Transformers". Tell that to my 10yo former self and he would have probably jumped on a train too.

But like I say, I really want to believe this to put my faith into kick-assing and humanity once again. If you have any evidence of the event I will take everything back in an instant. And for the love of god, if this is real, report it to the police and get checked by the hospital. Seriously what if these guys pulled that stunt again? Then who'd be the arse? (The one who could have prevented it that's who)

Err, I don't recall saying train station, and if I did, my bad. It was simply a bridge overhanging a railroad track with the station nearby, but not within eye or earshot.

Also, Fox News fired someone for refusing to air a fake story a while back. If I recall correctly the tried to take Fox to court but failed. That court ruling allowed them to keep the name Fox News, even though some of their content is "Opinionated Content" or something like that. I think it was in Florida, but it was a bit back.

I'm clearly guestimating on the train speed, but I figured it was going about cruising speed on a bike, so in that ball part. I only threw that number out so people wouldn't assume it was some train going like 60 or some shit, because if that was the case I'd probably have gotten ran over. For industrial trains, they usually don't have much in the way of staff. That and it's at night. Also, I didn't wait for the train to stop, I simply bailed in an area that looked least painful, like I said, it wasn't going fast.

Edit:

I was walking home last night and saw a group of people that approached me. They literally stole my shoes and were about to steal my wallet and throw me off this bridge. I got out of their control and managed to jump off it and land on a train.

How fucked up are the times we live in that random people seriously attempt to kill someone for shoes and a damn wallet?

Has anyone else had an experience being mugged, or attempted mugging? I'm fairly proficient in Krav Maga. But taking on five people at once is quite difficult. I managed to submit the big guy, but some other dude repeatedly punched me in the head until I retreated.

I jumped off a 30 foot bridge, on to a train, so about a 20 foot drop. Jumped off, and walked home 4 miles in my socks. Sorry for the profanity, but I seriously think this is messed up.

While the owner of my dojo was in San Diego for a convention, nursing his broken arm, he got jumped by 3 guys. Worst mistake they ever made. This little 5'1 65 year-old took them out.

Also, this is awesome. I was able to pull that off.

 

[Atheist.]

I was walking home last night and saw a group of people that approached me. They literally stole my shoes and were about to steal my wallet and throw me off this bridge. I got out of their control and managed to jump off it and land on a train.

How fucked up are the times we live in that random people seriously attempt to kill someone for shoes and a damn wallet?

Has anyone else had an experience being mugged, or attempted mugging? I'm fairly proficient in Krav Maga. But taking on five people at once is quite difficult. I managed to submit the big guy, but some other dude repeatedly punched me in the head until I retreated.

I jumped off a 30 foot bridge, on to a train, so about a 20 foot drop. Jumped off, and walked home 4 miles in my socks. Sorry for the profanity, but I seriously think this is messed up.

Only time I got jumped was after leaving a club in Mexico some people followed me and my friends to an after party we of course didn't notice them (drugs plus alcohol = BLAST!)

Unfortunately drugs and alcohol can also cause severe vomiting and sickness so I stayed outside with a friend next to his truck puking my guts out, when we get surrounded by 5-6 guys memory is fuzzy on this part but I noticed them surrounding us and immediately stood up and tried my best to ignore my stomach crawling up my throat.

So my Spanish is pretty horrible and one of these guys is talking to my friend who is really good with Spanish then one of the guys takes off my friends cap throws it and slaps him upside the head. I react to this by punching this guy 3 times in the face before a flurry of fists and yells brings me to the other side of the street I was super drunk but several of them were yelling repeatedly in Spanish that they were gonna kill me. It took me awhile to remember how to fight lol I must've taken 20-30 punches before I remembered how to move. Once I got my adrenaline under control I put up one heck of a fight against 3 at once. This was within the time span of 5-10 minutes

I think I kinda blacked out at some point but a few people from the after party had come out to the defense of me and my friend. At this point it was funny cause I was behind all these people suddenly and didn't remember them coming out or even hearing them.

We chased them away to their van and they promised they were coming back with guns. I was in Mexico, people get killed all the time in Mexico. So after about 10 minutes of talking with my friends there we ran off back to America. Turns out that a friend of the attackers girlfriend had told him that my friend had grabbed his girlfriends ass at the club we were at earlier. I also found out that half of the attackers actually were connected with an organized crime family in Mexico.

I'd say I was lucky to get out of that with nothing more than a nosebleed. :]

That's a pretty good store, kudos. I was I was able to fight back, but I had no backup so if I failed, I'd be dead.

 

[Atheist.]

I was walking home last night and saw a group of people that approached me. They literally stole my shoes and were about to steal my wallet and throw me off this bridge. I got out of their control and managed to jump off it and land on a train.

How fucked up are the times we live in that random people seriously attempt to kill someone for shoes and a damn wallet?

Has anyone else had an experience being mugged, or attempted mugging? I'm fairly proficient in Krav Maga. But taking on five people at once is quite difficult. I managed to submit the big guy, but some other dude repeatedly punched me in the head until I retreated.

I jumped off a 30 foot bridge, on to a train, so about a 20 foot drop. Jumped off, and walked home 4 miles in my socks. Sorry for the profanity, but I seriously think this is messed up.

Heh, My brother was shot through the heart by a group of men who stole his bus tokens.

As far as I can tell, you lucky, you're actually telling us this shit.

My condolences, people do fucked up shit for no good reason apparently.

I have 2 stories relating to this. Though my own personal experience is a bit useless but I suppose it's something.

I was about 17 and two little kids (This may sound kind of pathetic but at least I'm honest) who were about 13, came up to me with bats (one said he had a knife but I think he was bluffing to sound tough or something) and wanted my mp3 player. I told them to get lost but of course they didn't but luckily my friends house was nearby so I got there as quick as I could. A bit of a useless story but it is messed up how people, especially kids, resort to this kind of behaviour. I mean seriously, trying to forcibly take someones stuff because you want it? What is that about?

Also a friend of mine got held up by a junkie with a dirty needle for money. All he had on him was a bit of change so luckily he didn't lose anything valuable.

Well, I'm anti mugging, having been held up at gun point a block from my house before and having my money taken. On the other hand, as to the story... pics or GTFO

I'm not sure if you're really serious, but who the fuck has a camera man when they're getting assaulted. Doubting someone should never happen unless you have factual reason not to. Otherwise, apparently we're saying fuck you to any victim without a witness. Including a multitude of serial killers.

here's a reason not to: you claim you jumped onto a moving train? how did you get off? how did you survive? how did you stay on? why did they take your shoes first? Why would you even consider trying that? and all this after taking a beating and with no shoes? I've known people get injured falling 20 foot when they were perfectly fine beforehand, and you're saying you were stable enough to land on a moving train after taking a beating?

Kudos if your story is true, but there are too many little problems with it for me to believe you.

Edit: all the people telling your own stories about how you "bravely fought off like 6 ninjas" are pretty farfetched too. Apparantly the nerd stereotype is wrong and nerds are in fact all Austrian bodybuilders.

I didn't take an unbelievable beating. They took my shoes because they were pretty new, you've never heard of people doing this before? Once adrenaline kicks in, you can pretty much do anything for a period of time, to a certain degree. I'll say this again, even though I'm kind of getting tired of it. The train was only moving 10MPH. Hell, they have ladders on the ends of each car. I simply jumped off of it in a decent looking spot where I thought I'd take little to no injuries. I hope that clears some of your questions up, but whatever. At this point I'm almost to the end of all the quotes that have built up, so yay. I do intend to respond to everyone who has taken the time to quote me.

3. Have you ever been mugged? Raped? Assaulted? If someone doubted your integrity on such a serious matter, you're going to be offended. People saying you're something you're not is something to get defense about, sorry if you don't understand. I'd like to insult you here, but that only damages me. Unless you jest about serious crimes, I think you should back off on this one. Although, if you have no experience with something as serious as this, you have no validity in the first place.

Just picked out this bit because it was the worst of the bunch, the rest were just run of the mill hypocrisy. You are seriously comparing being mugged to beind raped? I've been mugged. I didn't even try to fight, but they attacked anyway. It hurt. Of course it did. It was annoying and painful. It wasn't a big deal. What has changed? I have a little less money and a fair amount of bruises and cuts. Rape on the other hand? You have no fucking idea what the hell you are talking about and I cannot believe you can even compare the two. Have you ever met rape victims? Their lives are sometimes completely destroyed by the attack. They just can't function as a normal person anymore. You claim his argument has no validity because he hasn't been mugged? well don't talk about rape as though you know something about it.

I'm not saying it's the same thing in any way. It's similar in the sense that it is a crime that makes you feel helpless. Similar does not in any way equate it to be the same. All stars are similar, they aren't all the same. We're similar because we visit the same website. Sorry if you misinterpreted that, but there it is. Also, please be a bit friendly before flying off the handle man. Granted, I'm guilty of it now and then but I wish we could all be more civil.

Also, yes I know a rape victim. I dated one and she was an emotional wreck for quite a while. I don't know if she's over it yet, or if she ever will be.

 

[Jesse Billingsley]

You Want a schematic to a hidden blade? You can make one for 60 bucks?

I've never been mugged, but I know enough Parkour and martial arts that I would at least be able to clear a path, or climb to a rooftop and go from there. The best way to avoid a confrontation though is to double back and find a new route, preferably one with a lot of witnesses in the general area.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

Nothing like that has ever happened to me but I know someone who has been raped. It happened behind one of our towns local Chinese take-a-ways.

The guy threatened to kill her if she told anyone but she couldn't keep it a secret. She told her mum (my mum's friend, which is how I know them) what happened and contacted the police and the guy is now in jail.

It happened a few years ago, I don't know the whole story in great detail she's not exactly happy to talk about it. All I know is that she was raped and the accused was found guilty.

 

[ExaltedK9]

I was walking home last night and saw a group of people that approached me. They literally stole my shoes and were about to steal my wallet and throw me off this bridge. I got out of their control and managed to jump off it and land on a train.

How fucked up are the times we live in that random people seriously attempt to kill someone for shoes and a damn wallet?

Has anyone else had an experience being mugged, or attempted mugging? I'm fairly proficient in Krav Maga. But taking on five people at once is quite difficult. I managed to submit the big guy, but some other dude repeatedly punched me in the head until I retreated.

I jumped off a 30 foot bridge, on to a train, so about a 20 foot drop. Jumped off, and walked home 4 miles in my socks. Sorry for the profanity, but I seriously think this is messed up.

I hate to be the skeptic but, I have a hard time believeing any of that. I'll try to present my reasons for thinking so in organized points...

1.Your wording sounds a little off. One second you had seen a group of people, and the next, you shoes had been stolen? I can understand not wanting to get bogged down on details but... damn.

2. How did you know that they were gonna target your wallet next, and than toss you off a bridge? (Which by the way, most petty criminals don't do, mostly because nobody wants to get 25 to life for a pair of nikes.) Did you hear one of the pack announce aloud: "Imma steal your wallet, and toss you off of this here bridge!"?

3. You fought off "The Big Guy", escaped their "Control" and jumped off of an overpasse, and onto a moving train? Cmon, that does not happen. It just doesn't. And 20 feet? If we were playing cards, I would call bullshit.

4. Look, I'm not trying to be a douche, but, it doesn't matter how skilled you are at your obscure self defense practice, nobody puts up a good fight against more than 2 people at a time. I'm guessing it was more than 2 since you used the word 'group', but you didn't specify. Odd.

Do I beleieve you were mugged? Yes. Do I believe you exaggerated? Hell yes.

 

[Valkyr71]

Sorry but i gotta wave the BS flag on this one

 

[Atheist.]

I was walking home last night and saw a group of people that approached me. They literally stole my shoes and were about to steal my wallet and throw me off this bridge. I got out of their control and managed to jump off it and land on a train.

How fucked up are the times we live in that random people seriously attempt to kill someone for shoes and a damn wallet?

Has anyone else had an experience being mugged, or attempted mugging? I'm fairly proficient in Krav Maga. But taking on five people at once is quite difficult. I managed to submit the big guy, but some other dude repeatedly punched me in the head until I retreated.

I jumped off a 30 foot bridge, on to a train, so about a 20 foot drop. Jumped off, and walked home 4 miles in my socks. Sorry for the profanity, but I seriously think this is messed up.

I hate to be the skeptic but, I have a hard time believeing any of that. I'll try to present my reasons for thinking so in organized points...

1.Your wording sounds a little off. One second you had seen a group of people, and the next, you shoes had been stolen? I can understand not wanting to get bogged down on details but... damn.

2. How did you know that they were gonna target your wallet next, and than toss you off a bridge? (Which by the way, most petty criminals don't do, mostly because nobody wants to get 25 to life for a pair of nikes.) Did you hear one of the pack announce aloud: "Imma steal your wallet, and toss you off of this here bridge!"?

3. You fought off "The Big Guy", escaped their "Control" and jumped off of an overpasse, and onto a moving train? Cmon, that does not happen. It just doesn't. And 20 feet? If we were playing cards, I would call bullshit.

4. Look, I'm not trying to be a douche, but, it doesn't matter how skilled you are at your obscure self defense practice, nobody puts up a good fight against more than 2 people at a time. I'm guessing it was more than 2 since you used the word 'group', but you didn't specify. Odd.

Do I beleieve you were mugged? Yes. Do I believe you exaggerated? Hell yes.

I know it's a long thread, but pretty much all of your questions have been answered at some point, so I'm not going to bother typing them up again. If you're really curious just read through the posts I've made here. There are plenty of them, and I replied to all of the quotes I got that were serious questions.

One thing I didn't answer was that I suppose they may not have tried to go for my wallet. But why wouldn't they? And yes, I basically did hear one of them mention to another about tossing me off the bridge. Didn't hear anything about the wallet, though. Also, Krav Maga isn't really obscure. It's a special forces training. Specifically for fighting more than one person. I was against five. Didn't win.

 

[Rabish Bini]

Holy sardine Batman! You should've busted out your shark repellent bat spray!

On topic, no, never been mugged myself. A few of my friends have, but they were all drunk and nothing serious was taken/no injuries occurred.

 

[Brutal Peanut]

That sounds terrible, and you made a very awesome escape. lol

I'm glad you weren't seriously injured and managed to make it home alright. Fortunately, I've never been mugged.

 

[Kendell Cambridge]

There is if you're a mugger...

 

[Magicmad5511]

This is the main reason I do not trust humanity and rarely go out.