So I just got jumped last night...

[emeraldrafael]

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Now I'm curious. its not against you, but what makes any of what anyone says hard to believe. i cant speak for the OP, but if you want proof of mine, I can send you a pciture of the scar on my arm from the knife. But not knowing personal life, it seems rather... well.. I cant think of the word, but i'm just curious as to why people feel the need to question when someone posts like that. Especially since you could probably challenge any of the mugging stories in this thread.

 

[Ghengis John]

Now I'm curious. its not against you, but what makes any of what anyone says hard to believe. i cant speak for the OP, but if you want proof of mine, I can send you a pciture of the scar on my arm from the knife. But not knowing personal life, it seems rather... well.. I cant think of the word, but i'm just curious as to why people feel the need to question when someone posts like that. Especially since you could probably challenge any of the mugging stories in this thread.

Probably lines like:

No matter whats happened, I've always walked away, and more times then not, I've left broken men behind me

Okay sure thing tough guy. I think you've been reading too many comic books.

The fourth just stood there and I guess weighed his options, cause he just laid down the knife and walked away.

Correction I think you've been watching too many action movies.

Now I have to say, maybe you are that tough, I'm not going to doubt that it's possible and if it's true then you sound like a handy guy to have around. But when you give us such ridiculous descriptions it sounds like you're a fiction junkie. You're telling me you got in a fight with four men, two armed with knives, you are 155 pounds and you "broke" all four of them? No. That's too ridiculous to believe. It's hard enough to fight two people when you're getting punched in the back of the head, let alone stabbed. What did they take numbers?

Now what I'm going to say is going to sound insulting. Mind you, I don't mean it personally. Getting in a fight with a stranger is scary. Pushing a guy with a knife is stupid. Fighting when you're outnumbered is stupid. Fighting strangers with knives when you're outnumbered is stupidest of all. I had an uncle in Mexico who got into a knife fight? Guess what? Somebody died. Even if you are that good you're an idiot and I don't believe you're that good. I got into a fight once with a guy who knew marine hand to hand. I was 185 pounds and could bench 325 at the time. I also had very fast hands but I had no formal fight training. I did not manage to break any of his bones nor did he manage to break any of mine (and he told me he had been trying, afterwards). I did not "break" him in the slightest, in fact I was quickly getting tired. The fight stopped because I asked him a question and he took the opening to consider that I actually cared about what he thought. I did not, particularly, I just wanted out of that mess as fast as possible, (it was in a store, no less) but anyhow. Bones are HARD to break, and you're magically breaking them like everyone in the world has vrolik's syndrome. I have to think that only somebody who had never been in a fight would think that fighting was so easy. You'll forgive me but that's just my experience.

Real people aren't made out of glass and they don't stand around like molasses waiting to get hit. You try to break free of a hold, they adjust their grip, you try to dislocate their arm they stiffen it and shift their weight. It's not like the movies at all. And here's atheist, pudgy and frequently saying things I debunk him for and now he jumped 20 feet off a bridge, onto a train in his socks and didn't break anything. Robbers are scared, their adrenaline is already going, they are not going to be sluggish. At the first sign of trouble they freak out and react.

"I guess he weighted his options and decided that I was the ultimate badass."
Well if you are, then take my apologies right here and now man but I hope you understand why I have trouble beleiving it.

 

[emeraldrafael]

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Well the first line is true. I grew up in a military family, and the first lesson I always taught was you leave the enemy to either run or unable to fight back (can be through surrender). mercy will only bite you in the ass. I never said I was never injured. there's been multiple times where I've walked or limped home with a new broke appendage and a few more scars.

as for the second, what do you expect? they're street thugs. They're not hardened soldiers, and i think after you see three other guys who are at least 30 lbs bigger then the guy they're trying to fight get beaten, you're not exactly willing to fight. there's been many times where an army will surrender to a smaller yet more skilled and superior force. Lets put you in the situation. if a person smaller then you just beat three men bigger then him to hell, and you're not much bigger then any of the men who just had their asses beaten, are you going to want to fight them? especially if they now have a weapon?

I should preference it. i really should. i'm third generation military family. my grandfather was a ranger in WW2, two of his brothers were navy, and one was Marine (he had a third in the navy, but that one was killed). my grandfather had six kids, five boys, one girl (my mom). Each one of the boys was in the military as well. Two were navy, one airforce, one army, and one was national guard before signing to the marines. each one has seen I'm not the biggest kid, so tehy pretty much passed anything and everything they could along so I would be able to get out of any situation. I have more training then the average person, and I'll admit it, its not a fair fight even with more numbers against me.

the OP also preferenced their post, saying tehy know Krav maga (sure I misspelled it). people can lie, but why they would bother online, I dont get. I honestly try not to (unless I'm being sarcastic, then I'll lie through my teeth just to be funny), and I can tell you I'm not in this case.

... ugh, that came off as more rantish then I wanted. Long story short, I just dont see why people should get to debunk others. There's plenty of instances in life where men of humbleness are awesome under pressure. I dont want to criticize the OP (mostly cause thats hypocritical) so I just told a story of one of the muggings I was cuaght up in. I'm not saying I'm awesome, or a hero, or that I thought this was easy. Just a story of something that happened to me thats relevant.

 

[Biosophilogical]

and basically started to shoe-fuck his face

Sorry I was in the mindset that if somebody threatens me with a weapon I have the right to kick them in the teeth. My bad.

I think the bit where you went overboard was when you kicked him in the teeth and didn't just try and kick his knife away. I mean, you have a knife of your own for work, so you kick him in the face, and after that it should have been about keeping him as a non-threat, not repeatedly kicking him in the face. The first kick wasn't the over-kill, the subsequent kicks were, because you presumably had a non-violent advantage at that point.

OT: If this happened (it is the internet, so it is reasonable to be a skeptic. I don't mean it as an insult) then you are clearly Batman, and you have my respect. I've never had this happen to me, but as for why people do it? I'd say a lack of empathy, a low SES and a gang-centric social environment. Honestly, just thinking about people like that makes me feel a weird combination of sad and sick.

 

[Ghengis John]

Lets put you in the situation. if a person smaller then you just beat three men bigger then him to hell, and you're not much bigger then any of the men who just had their asses beaten, are you going to want to fight them? especially if they now have a weapon?

Well that's a tricky proposition. On the one hand I don't like getting hurt nor do I have medical insurance. On other hand I know this might sound stupid but I've always been too curious for my own good. And on the other other hand (assuming now there's three) I'm just not the type to want to pull a knife or gang up on anyone, much less somebody smaller than me. We'll leave it at 'no' for now.

... ugh, that came off as more rantish then I wanted. Long story short, I just dont see why people should get to debunk others. There's plenty of instances in life where men of humbleness are awesome under pressure. I dont want to criticize the OP (mostly cause thats hypocritical) so I just told a story of one of the muggings I was cuaght up in. I'm not saying I'm awesome, or a hero, or that I thought this was easy. Just a story of something that happened to me thats relevant.

Ah no problem, sometimes a good long rant is the only way. Now then, I'm happy for you but I'd probably just fork over the money and really, tough or not you might want to think about doing the same. Better an empty wallet than a full casket. You're probably going to keep fighting though. You seem like a nice guy so here's hoping you continue to wind up on top of the heap. A tip of the hat to you.

 

[Timmibal]

actually he said he did free style running. If he did, he wouldn't have called it free style running. He would have said freerunning/parkour/I was a traceur.

Or just like the Krav Maga bit, he picked the most fucking hardnut thing he could find for his fabrication without doing some basic research first and fucked it up.

Everyone is hating on OP for his colourful story, but I assumed he was either:
A) Making a joke
or
B) Making a serious story more interesting with obvious exaggeration.

He could always be delusional, but hey I assumed it was done intentionally in jest.

You don't emit the level of defensive butthurt that the OP has been giving off the instant someone even remotely questions the veracity of his statement without obviously expecting people to take it seriously and at face value.

Stop calling him the goddamn batman people, I would like to credit you with a little more common sense than your reactions are demonstrating.

This thread was a poor attempt at e-peen enlargement. That is all. Thank you for playing.

 

[joemegson94]

Earth = it's a bag of shit.

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

I've had a similar experience. Six men surrounded me, threatened me and attacked and almost killed me. I had plenty of time to run but I didn't because when I look back at it; one man stood against many, in the face of danger I didn't run and givne the chance I would do it all over again.

excuse me sir but you happen to be batman
ok I will answer your question
We live in a bad world a very bad world

I agree with that guy, you must be Batman.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Lets put you in the situation. if a person smaller then you just beat three men bigger then him to hell, and you're not much bigger then any of the men who just had their asses beaten, are you going to want to fight them? especially if they now have a weapon?

Well that's a tricky proposition. On the one hand I don't like getting hurt nor do I have medical insurance. On other hand I know this might sound stupid but I've always been too curious for my own good. And on the other other hand (assuming now there's three) I'm just not the type to want to pull a knife or gang up on anyone, much less somebody smaller than me. We'll leave it at 'no' for now.

if you have three hands, I say start fighting. Thats an immediate advantage on anyone. XD

... ugh, that came off as more rantish then I wanted. Long story short, I just dont see why people should get to debunk others. There's plenty of instances in life where men of humbleness are awesome under pressure. I dont want to criticize the OP (mostly cause thats hypocritical) so I just told a story of one of the muggings I was cuaght up in. I'm not saying I'm awesome, or a hero, or that I thought this was easy. Just a story of something that happened to me thats relevant.

Ah no problem, sometimes a good long rant is the only way. Now then, I'm happy for you but I'd probably just fork over the money and really, tough or not you might want to think about doing the same. Better an empty wallet than a full casket. You're probably going to keep fighting though. You seem like a nice guy so here's hoping you continue to wind up on top of the heap. A tip of the hat to you.

thanks. Quite honestly, I'll continue to fight. Not because I want to (at least not really) but because, well, I lack a self preservation instinct. No matter what danger something presents I'd blindly walk right into it. its probably cause I'm not as apprehensive about death, since i faced it when i was five (different story, but to summarize, i was bitten by a black widow cause I got to close to it). so I just lack that little filter that says "STOP DAMNIT!!!"

Also, I'll go to anyones aid, as long as they're not doing something evil. More then enough times, I bring this kinda crap on myself, and so far its been 99.9% luck and about .1% skill I'm not dead yet. Just how I am I suppose. but thanks for the concern at least. A tip of the hat to you as wel.

 

[Glebd]

A few times, beat up a guy and walked away from his friend laughing, took the knife from the 2nd and he ran away and got legit mugged 2ce when they took my money and my watch the 2nd time. couldn't do much against 8 beefy dudes. but wtv man you did well and koodos to you. keep training in Krav Maga and you'll build the confidence to take on 5 people if not more at once. I saw my systema master drop 4 guys in a matter of 3 seconds so yeah... and he is a skinny man. You did well and the fact that you live and they got a pair of shoes for five people puts them in a worse situation than you.

 

[TheTim]

Thats just life man, always throws curve balls at you.

Thats also why i dont walk places at night without a knife

 

[Soggydog]

I have two stories relating to this incident. The first I was in Ann Arbor Michigan of all places, and a very large man with a bat tried to take my bike. While I was riding it. Thankfully he was large due to the amount of mcdonalds he likely consumes on a daily basis and couldnt catch me. The second time I was in one of the sketchier parts of Denver after dark. Two very large men came up to me on either side and very aggressively started yelling "Hey man you got some weed!?!?". Thankfully anticipating that I might end up in one of the more violent parts of the city I brought a very large K-bar combat knife with me. I told them "no" and flashed the handle of the knife at them. They left me alone.

 

[Mechanix]

I'm not saying you're lying, but escaping muggers by jumping off a bridge and onto a moving train is a big unrealistic...

 

[David Out]

Oh man, I have plenty of mugging victim experience. I've been mugged twice and avoid one potential mugging.

About 4 years ago, I was on the subway listening to my ipod. School just got out, so it was packed. I rushed out of the subway car to catch my next train and 10 guys (seriously) followed me and started beating on me before I could even get all the way up the stairs. Thankfully, my book bag protected me from most of the stomps and plus there was 10 of them, so they all couldn't get to me on that narrow staircase. In the end, they only took my headphones, cuz I managed to keep my hands on my ipod.

The attempted mugging was like 2 years ago, two kids who were like 13 (i was 18 at the time) followed me out of a corner store and slapped me, demanding "my shit". I was more surprised and confused than scared. I just walked away for this one, plus my friend's house was like half a block away.

Last mugging was last October. Me and my gf were eatting in her car outside of a fastfood place at like 11pm. We stupidly left the car unlocked and some guy in his 30s or 40s jumped into the back seat with a gun. It look like some type of magnum, but the barrel looked really weird so it might have been fake. Didn't really want to risk it, so we managed to convince him that we didn't have cell phones and he took like $20 and my gf's ring.

Basically, the world is filled with assholes. Even young ones.

 

[emeraldrafael]

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Since you're an honest person, I shall assume that you took some pretty hardcore martial arts or something incredible since you overpowered those types of guys.

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<spoiler=I beleive this covers my credentials to whoop some major ass XD>

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I should preference it. i really should. i'm third generation military family. my grandfather was a ranger in WW2, two of his brothers were navy, and one was Marine (he had a third in the navy, but that one was killed). my grandfather had six kids, five boys, one girl (my mom). Each one of the boys was in the military as well. Two were navy, one airforce, one army, and one was national guard before signing to the marines. each one has seen I'm not the biggest kid, so tehy pretty much passed anything and everything they could along so I would be able to get out of any situation. I have more training then the average person, and I'll admit it, its not a fair fight even with more numbers against me.

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[Finbark]

Minneapolis I'm assuming. I personally live in a suburb of Mpls, but several of my friends live there and tell me of the shit that goes down near them.

 

[Christopher Callahan]

20 feet... About 6 meters, right? So, you'd be hitting that train at about... 30 km/h. Ought to break a leg, hitting hard surface you can't even roll on to lessen the impact force.

Twenty feet is definitely doable. I have done it in the past as a teenager. Perhaps I should throw out This Link . Some random drunk dude falling 50 feet, compared to a sober guy jumping 20. Which seems safer?

Sorry, but I simply don't believe that you are judging this right, as do a lot of other people. Cool story as it may be, I can't really believe you fell 5 metres, let alone 6.

Alright, I don't really care. Not trying to be a dick, but this was in a familiar location. I know the bridge height, and I'm not trying to brag. While 20 feet is a decent drop, it's not life threatening. Either you're misinformed, or you're calling me a liar. Either way, you're disrespectful. I wouldn't be an ass to you if you got mugged, why the hell are you doing it to me? Are you seriously such a bad person you'd pick on a crime victim?

1: You obviously care, that's why you responded and feel offended at what I said
2: Saying 'I'm not trying to be a dick' and then saying what you said is like me saying, 'I'm trying not to be violent', and then punching a guy in the face.
3: I just think either you're lying, or your judgement is off, I previously thought the latter, but you sound too defensive, which is a characteristic typical of somebody not being honest
4: And it's not disrespectful to give incorrect information to the escapist community and expect us to believe it? (hypocritical much?)
5: Don't act like you know me, I could have been mugged, you just don't know
6: I lol'd at the sympathy card, "Are you seriously such a bad person you'd pick on a crime victim?", seriously?
Your misguided offense at my only confirms that you yourself are regretting saying that it was a 20 foot drop, but you don't want to change it now because too many people have seen this thread, yep, you're in a sticky situation alright.

1. I don't care what you think. True fact. I care more about my image. It has nothing to do with someone being an asshole to me. Sorry.

2. I was trying to confront you in a friendly manner. Just because you feel offended at the fact that we have conflicting opinions doesn't make me a dick, sorry if you think so.

3. Have you ever been mugged? Raped? Assaulted? If someone doubted your integrity on such a serious matter, you're going to be offended. People saying you're something you're not is something to get defense about, sorry if you don't understand. I'd like to insult you here, but that only damages me. Unless you jest about serious crimes, I think you should back off on this one. Although, if you have no experience with something as serious as this, you have no validity in the first place.

4. Worst statement ever. You straight up are assuming I'm lying, which is beyond offensive and disrespectful. You're seriously insulting someone who was just a victim of a serious crime. Nice one, bud.

5. No way. No fucking way. If you were ever mugged, you would be beyond sympathetic. You seriously have no idea what you're saying, and I seriously suggest you reconsider this post. Attacking someone that was just a crime of a felony is a very poor social choice. I'm not pissed at you because I'm defensive, I'm pissed because you're beyond offending to me.

6. I don't fucking care what you classify me. I am a crime victim, and you're the jerk that's picking on me. I showed you respect, and you attacked me. It doesn't matter if you don't believe me, f' off man. You're not only offending me, but everyone else who has had this happen to them. I don't care how ego strong you are, find something better to do than attack people. You probably don't realize this, but you're seriously upsetting people. I'm not trying to start up some kind of bizarre flame war, I just don't want negativity on the thread I made.

1: You care, otherwise you wouldn't respond, this further enforces the proposition that you are not being honest
2: If that's really what you think, then I don't have anything to say to that.
3: You don't know me, as much as you like to think I'm immune to being the victim of crime,
that isn't the case, and I'm sorry I doubted your integrity on you jumping 20 feet and not injuring yourself seriously, (just keep telling yourself that OP)
4: You continue to be hypocritical and to be dishonest to all of the people here, and fun fact: If a horrible person becomes a victim of a crime, that doesn't necessarily stop them from being horrible people who should be called out when they make mistakes, bud
(also I never said I assumed you were lying, but it now seems obvious.
5: Here's another fun fact: If somebody gets mugged, then they hear a story about a guy who jumped off a bridge, fell 20 feet and landed on a train, they don't suddenly ignore the physical unlikelihood, I'll show sympathy when you learn to be honest with us, and perhaps with yourself
6: "I don't fucking care what you classify me." We both know that's not true.
" I am a crime victim, and you're the jerk that's picking on me." Just saying it how it is bud. "I showed you respect, and you attacked me." If that's what makes you feel better about yourself, then I wouldn't have it any other way. "It doesn't matter if you don't believe me," It sure does to you "f' off man." Nice, good for you. "You're not only offending me, but everyone else who has had this happen to them." Oh God, the army of people who jumped 20 feet and landed on a train are coming to get me! Hey, there's only one guy! "I don't care how ego strong you are, find something better to do than attack people." Your dishonesty is an attack in itself, and I counterattack. "You probably don't realize this, but you're seriously upsetting people." Right back atcha bud, "I'm not trying to start up some kind of bizarre flame war, I just don't want negativity on the thread I made." Yeah, that's why you keep responding, bud

Thanks for acknowledging I landed safely. We apparently disagree on a severe level, and this conversation is meaningless. I wish you the best, but also tip you good day. I will no longer be responding to you on this thread, regardless of how bad a person I see you as.

"We apparently disagree on a severe level" Disagree implies you believe yourself in what you say. And I too wish you a fine day, may the hills rise to greet you, and the sun shine on you, have a nice day.

The OP is done with you, but talk to me later, we seem to have different view point's on the matter.
And stop being disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, it make's it clear that all you want is an argumeet. It clearly never mattered to you if what the OP was say was true or not.

 

[Chalacachaca]

Fun thing is that you try that Krav Maga thing where I live and your funeral will be with a closed coffin.

 

[Kenko]

I avoid large groups at all costs at night, i'm not Batman, but I could be compared to Garret from Thief. I could've been mugged once, this group came around a corner and spotted me so I slipped into a side-street into an apartment area, just as I went around the corner I bolted and hid myself beneath a balcony behind some bushes in complete shadows and waited. Shortly thereafter they came running around the corner looking around for me. Arabic youth looking for Swedish targets as always, racist punks.

Oh so that shit about loads of foreiners fucking up Sweden is true then ?

Damn thats a shame. Sweden seemed like a nice place.

After reading through htis thread, I first doubted the OPafter reading his post, but the more he pted the more I was convinced its bullshit. I have a page or two to read, but so far he just sems to dodge questions.

Wouldn't say that they are "Fucking up" the entire country, that'd be blowing things out of proportion. But somalian's and the hillbilly mountain people fundamental arabs that we get here, since the educated arabs didn't move here in numbers. They are usually quite xenophobic and do not want to be part of our society or culture, nor respect it or the laws of this country.

A small anecdote though. My mother was invited along by her friend Dunia(Iraqi/muslim, one of the best persons ive ever met) to a Mosque to meet and partake in a sort of a "social gathering". Sure we could understand that people glanced and such, it's only natural as alot of swedes dont go there. But what was completley unforgivable was that afterwards they approached Dunia and told her never to bring my mother again. When she asked why, the reply she got was "Because she's swedish". Had they been swedish and the person they said wasn't allowed to be there was an immigrant, there'd been all sorts of "DONT BE RACIST" outbursts and other such bullshit.

Ofcourse,this is because of the previous governing parti inability to deal with immigration issues properly. The side-effect of immigrant racism towards the real swedish people, right-wing racist doucehbag parti's are gaining alot of votes and ground.

So the situation is hardly "Black and White". But it doesn't seem to be improving either.

P.S : Dunia also spoke out against the mistreatment and then left said mosque, ofcourse now she isn't welcome back.

 

[andriod]

Almost, i was walking down an alleyway to a mates place near the train station. This guy came up to me and was like "gimmie your shit." with a knife and all. he was obviously off his face to i told him to fuck off and he did.

When better than i expected