I could flip that very same thing around and tell you that I shouldn't accept your word as gospel, after all you have just as much knowledge about the game as I do.GAunderrated said:
That's part of the entire silly over-hang. Like Lollipop Chainsaw or Warm Bodies: it knows how stupid and far out its premise, plot line and characters are/is and it doesn't take itself too seriously in comparison.OldDirtyCrusty said:
This basically. Platinum Games seem to be the only Japanese developer that isn't trying to ape the style of western games these days, and is making some damn fun, over the top, Japanese style action games. Hell, even Vanquish, a third person shooter with a cover system, was absolutely nothing like any western third person cover based shooter. They're doing their own thing and it is awesome.ShinyCharizard said:
Right, because there hasn't been a ninja in three out of the last four mainline mgs games. There hasn't been the theme of the thrill of battle....jwonno said:
Raiden has mental issues because of his time as a child soldier. What this game seems to be dealing with is why Raiden had the codename "Jack the Ripper" back when he worked under Solidus. I just hope they handle this particular backstory angle well.johnnyLupine said:
...How is it a shark jump? If anything, this Raiden is actually much, MUCH weaker than MGS4's Raiden.piinyouri said:
You quoted me but then argued about a point I never made. I know the ninja is a recurring theme, I didn't say it wasn't. Unless you thought I meant the mecha (i.e. Metal Gears).shadow skill said:
Metal Gear isn't just about stealth or subtlety, hell MGS 4 was much more action oriented than the other games in part because the setting of an active combat zone allowed such a shift to work. Metal Gear happens to be one of those rare games where they have established characters that could support different types of games as part of a single franchise. Look at the Legacy of Kain series, the first game was much more like Torchlight or Dungeon siege in terms of gameplay, yet the Soul Reaver games were much more puzzle oriented and much more subdued affairs. These games worked because the gameplay and the rest of the game (story, voice acting, etc.) was good enough to support that kind of shift. Furthermore gameplay should also fit the character and when you can hold back the mass of something the size of Arsenal Gear it becomes a bit stupid to try and shoehorn the character into a stealth oriented kind of game. It would make as much sense as having Meryl do sneaking missions like Snake rather than a more direct approach.jwonno said:
Just because the gameplay element of MGS4 made open conflict more accessible, due to the story relevant theme of an all-out-war, does not mean that the game itself portrayed a story of action. Snake & co. still spent the entire plot trying to dissuade the conflict with minimal "action".shadow skill said:
You're right, Raiden as it stands is not a great character for a stealthy game, hence the backlash from MGS2. Does that mean the Metal Gear universe can't be anything but stealth? No. But does that mean it a spin-off can ride on the success of the previous games by providing some nostalgia, a character resurrected from shame (but still quite moapy), and (some) good voice acting, bearing in mind the script isn't Hideo's? I doubt it.shadow skill said:
I am reminded of the Grey Fox fight in Metal Gear Solid. He'd dodge your bullets and hit you for it. The only way to beat him was to wait until he was about to strike and sucker punch him. As little sense as it may make, Raiden is the third (or fourth, maybe?) Cyborg Ninja in the series, and even the weakest one was a ***** to hit.shadow skill said:
The Metal Gear Solid games have all been insulting to America. It's Japan. Also, unless Raiden feels like a leaden truck chained to an elephant, there's no way the game's clunkier than the rest of the series. Also, Tranquilizer. No point in using any other gun. Ever. I can't wait to get my copy by post so I can see if the story really is so much of a betrayal, and how much of it is recent fans' predisposition to bash anything "different."normalguycap said:
