Eh, I only get aroused by failed hopes and dreams.Parasondox said:
This one however, did not have high expectations to begin with.
So The Ghostbusters Embargo was lifted and oh dear
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This one however, did not have high expectations to begin with.
Is it really nice? Really? You want the movie to be shit? Because while I had no hopes for it being good, I'm not glad it sucks. I'd like for it to have been the breakout hit of the summer, and actually be a good movie worth our time. To hear it's just as bad as we feared is sad, not nice.inu-kun said:
These are two badly picked cherries you have there mate. Don't get me wrong, I have zero desire to see this movie, it just feels so lazy and pointless like any and all comedies that are made now-a-days, the reviews seem to indicate it's not even as low as a mediocre comedy. The reviews seem to be saying it is a slightly above average comedy. That's not enough to make me go see it certainly, but even so, these little cherries of yours are doing no help for whatever it is you're trying to do, unless it's just to ruffle some feathers with the low levels of research done here, in which, congrats, do you want a prize?
In all honesty, I do want to see this film do poorly simply due to the producer generalizing that all the detractors were sexists or racists or whatever, because anyone that acts like that deserves to crash and burn as many times as possible(because he seems to be in the business of it), but all in all it did provide at least some form of relief to know that not every time a company does a gender swap that they're simply stopping there and being lazy about everything else about the project and just hoping that being "progressive" will carry it entirely, because I feel that sets progress back further. Poorly trying to be inclusive causes more harm than good, as it only serves to toot the horns of a few vocal progressives, and further vindicates the opposition by letting them point at that thing to further prove their prejudice of someone not being good enough because of arbitrary reason. That's why I'm so much more against the idea of gender swapping, because often the people behind it just run with that afterwards with no further thought or effort, hoping that the name and progressiveness will carry it entirely, rather than actually putting the time and effort to make a good character of X background.
This was probably a poorly done rant, but it's something that I've wanted to say for a while. I agree with a lot of the general ideas of the progressive movement, I just think the methods being used are setting the movement back as a whole far more than the opposition ever could, and it infuriates me more because at least when I have a bigot call me a fag, I can just ignore it, but when it's the community itself giving them more ammo, it's like they're the ones calling me a fag and getting pissed at me because I'm not doing enough to end the hate.
So, maybe I take back that I want this movie to do poorly, because it's at least doing above average of most movies, which is better than most of the projects can even hope for because of the corporate staff that makes them, but I'm still iffy about the project on the whole to the point where I still don't care to give money to it myself. Whatever happens, happens.
In all honesty, I do want to see this film do poorly simply due to the producer generalizing that all the detractors were sexists or racists or whatever, because anyone that acts like that deserves to crash and burn as many times as possible(because he seems to be in the business of it), but all in all it did provide at least some form of relief to know that not every time a company does a gender swap that they're simply stopping there and being lazy about everything else about the project and just hoping that being "progressive" will carry it entirely, because I feel that sets progress back further. Poorly trying to be inclusive causes more harm than good, as it only serves to toot the horns of a few vocal progressives, and further vindicates the opposition by letting them point at that thing to further prove their prejudice of someone not being good enough because of arbitrary reason. That's why I'm so much more against the idea of gender swapping, because often the people behind it just run with that afterwards with no further thought or effort, hoping that the name and progressiveness will carry it entirely, rather than actually putting the time and effort to make a good character of X background.
This was probably a poorly done rant, but it's something that I've wanted to say for a while. I agree with a lot of the general ideas of the progressive movement, I just think the methods being used are setting the movement back as a whole far more than the opposition ever could, and it infuriates me more because at least when I have a bigot call me a fag, I can just ignore it, but when it's the community itself giving them more ammo, it's like they're the ones calling me a fag and getting pissed at me because I'm not doing enough to end the hate.
So, maybe I take back that I want this movie to do poorly, because it's at least doing above average of most movies, which is better than most of the projects can even hope for because of the corporate staff that makes them, but I'm still iffy about the project on the whole to the point where I still don't care to give money to it myself. Whatever happens, happens.
Are people masturbating to the failure of Ghostbusters now? I think there are better things to beat off to
Eh. The movie being received moderately well doesn't change anything about the fact on how troubled/controversial making it was, and everything around it.
Given that we seem to live in a time period where people assume any viedo game that doesn't get a 10/10 is a failure. . . . .yeah, probably.Pluvia said:
As for my take on the whole thing? The film stars comedians I don't find funny, telling jokes that I don't find funny, in what seems to be a lowest-common-denominator comedy (a film genre I don't find funny), so I never had any plans to see it.
Worry not, critic consensus is mostly that it's a decent film which unfortunately falls short of the original.Happyninja42 said:
Given the hyperbolic complaints I kept reading in the News section of this forum, I was expecting Pixels level bad.
Given I like good movies more than bad, I'm glad.
Given I like good movies more than bad, I'm glad.
74% now. And...wait a minute.Andy Shandy said:
That's over 20% worse than the original! My God this film must be terrible! Oh, why has my childhood been ruined as such (first saw Ghostbusters as an adult, but whatever)? How dare they not make a film as good, if not better than the original? Shame, shame, and more shame!
In all seriousness, maybe the OP was genuine in his assertion, but is 74% a case for "oh dear?"
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It's sitting at a 62 on metacritic right now with 17 reviews in. Mostly positive, some mixed, with no really bad reviews.
For a comedy that isn't terrible honestly.
Still have no interest in seeing it since it seems content to just lift scenes from the first movie wholesale rather than making something new, however it really isn't the train-wreck that people are making it out to be.
It's a pretty average comedy.
For a comedy that isn't terrible honestly.
Still have no interest in seeing it since it seems content to just lift scenes from the first movie wholesale rather than making something new, however it really isn't the train-wreck that people are making it out to be.
It's a pretty average comedy.
So despite all the controversy this movie turned out to be average to mediocre? Does this mean everyone will have to go find a new battle ground to continue quarreling with feminists?
While I can actually agree that the way the media peddled the misogyny angle when dealing with dissenters was kind of ridiculous, I have to wonder how much harder it would have been for them to do so if every comment section wasn't filled with "The SJWs have ruined Ghostbusters! Damn studio is pandering to feminists!"
It would have been a lot easier to take this whole controversy seriously if it weren't so over the top from the beginning.
While I can actually agree that the way the media peddled the misogyny angle when dealing with dissenters was kind of ridiculous, I have to wonder how much harder it would have been for them to do so if every comment section wasn't filled with "The SJWs have ruined Ghostbusters! Damn studio is pandering to feminists!"
It would have been a lot easier to take this whole controversy seriously if it weren't so over the top from the beginning.
Well one has to remember the comment section wasn't filled with that until Sony started removing everything that wasn't such comments or positive ones.FirstNameLastName said:
Given this is the company which threatened legal action against the cast of the original to force them to cameo in this one, it's nowhere near the most bankrupt thing they did regarding this whole trainwreak of a production and marketing. Even if the movie ends up being only mediocre (which, given everything we know, would be a massive accomplishment) the question of if it'll even brake even with the marketing costs is a very open one.
But that's the worst part. It just proves how the regressive left controls the media. They are afraid to tell the truth because they fear their cultural marxist masters who are forcing them to write midling-to-positive things about what we all know must be a horrible movie!shrekfan246 said:
Did you see the number of people who felt retroactively vindicated by the trailer?Happyninja42 said:
If it confirms our presuppositions, that confirms that we were correct to presuppose them. That's how logic works, right?
The funny thing is the movie's sitting at aggregates of like 62 and 74. While these are far from movie of the year scores (and really, did anyone say this was going to be movie of the year?), they're still far from the shit that was being predicted, and it kind of makes the people clinging to the bottom most scores come off as desperate.
With the amount of hate this movie received from the get go, it turns the apparently decent comedy (74% on Rotten Tomatoes) into a large letdown.
Is anyone really surprised from the result considering all the controversy? Hopefully studios in the future will attempt to remain true to the series while revamping it for the current generation.
Is anyone really surprised from the result considering all the controversy? Hopefully studios in the future will attempt to remain true to the series while revamping it for the current generation.
I'm afraid so. After #You know what, I've given in. I am too old for this game. Retiring. I want love. Not war.LegendaryGamer0 said:
Why do people care so much about this movie? There are so many excellent films every year that fall between the cracks, and so much energy has been spent discussing this one.
It's because it's another shitty reboot of a beloved franchise by people who are just a hair away from openly hating the source material, do openly hate the fanbase and have a marketing department who are so incompetent it's a genuine surprise that Sony only fired Amy Pascal over this instead of sending the entire marketing department with her (to say nothing of the production nightmare the entire thing has been from information revealed in the Sony hack and other sources) you get to the point where discussion about the movie is more entertaining then the movie itself could possibly be. I know Midnight's Edge multiple long videos on the matter, if refined into a single documentary, would be miles more entertaining then the movie itself could possibly be.Chanticoblues said:
I genuinely would not be surprised if a legitimate documentary was made on the nightmare that was the making of this movie, and highly doubt it would be anything but leagues ahead of it in entertainment value.