So uhhh... the Oscars sucked.

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Johnny Novgorod

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Dansen said:
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AzrealMaximillion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
AzrealMaximillion said:
It's still pretty dodgy to say that the event was politicized due to Michelle Obama's presence. It seems like more of something to make the Oscar's relevant today. The Oscar's ratings have gone down over the years. I mean, come on, did you see Seth McFarlane's ideas for the show? That was a bad Oscar's show to watch. Michelle Obama's political influence on the show will probably only be looked at by Faux News.
Again, strongly disagree. Let's not be naiv. By inviting her of all politicians, to deliver that one award of all awards, to that one movie of all movies, into this ceremony of all ceremonies, both the Academy Awards are making a statement, and more importantly, so is she. She's a politician. It's what they DO. Declare things and make acts of presence. Again. It's what they do.
She didn't really politicize a point though. Other than, "we're glad Osama is dead", there's not much politics to what she did that night. Its not like she awarded the movie personally. She didn't chose the winner of the award. For crying out loud, it won Best Sound editing. Oooooooooh. Had it won Best Picture, you'd have a better point, but having Michelle Obama present an award for one of the categories that no one cares about is hardly politics. It's not like Barack has to run again. And besides, the "Fisrt Lady" is an unofficial title with no official duties. There's not much that her handing out a sound editing awards will be remembered for politically within the next month, lets be real.
I think you're a bit misinformed my friend. We're talking about Argo. The one that got Best Movie award. Which she delivered. Is my point better already?


You are reading way too much into this. No agenda was being pushed by delivering a stupid movie award. Being a walking press figure is pretty much the only thing the First Lady is expected to do. It was probably the Academy's idea to begin with. The only person making this political is you.
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3)Day Lewis was the obvious choice and I agree on the award but I'm always a bit weary when an actor hogs Best Actor whenever he so much as shows up onscreen (kind of like what Meryl does).
I wouldn't say he hogs Best Actor. Sure he's gotten it twice in 5 years but both roles were really iconic. I still remain adamant that his performance as Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood was the best performance of the entire last decade. His performance as Lincoln wasn't as good as his performance as Daniel Plainview but it was still the year's best performance IMO. Although, I didn't think it was as much a runaway as others. I seriously thought Joaquin Phoenix had a decent chance because I thought he was almost as amazing as Day-Lewis.
Plus, if he really was a Best Actor hog, then he most certainly should have won for Gangs of New York. He made that movie amazing when without him it would probably have just been alright.
 

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I've decided to pull this back to the front page, just because I'm always a bit late to the oscars aftermath.

Anyways, this year was not too bad. There were not many films that really stood out for me overall this year, and the films I enjoyed, like the Dark Knight Rises, didn't really do anything special in terms of film-making.

The only really close race was Supporting Actor, and getting annoyed at Cristoph Waltz' win is dumb. Both characters he has won for were brilliant. The only similarities are that they were German, and Tarantino's. That's like getting annoyed at an american for playing americans. And Anne Hathaway is probably the only stand out actress for me at the moment, and that win was well deserved, and predictable for good reason.

And finally, I'm not really sure what the deal is but here in the UK we're only just now getting Wreck it Ralph and Cloud Atlas, so the distributors must not have that much faith in them, or there wouldn't be such a big delay in releasing it here, so no surprise they weren't up there in the nominations.
 

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I think you're a bit misinformed my friend. We're talking about Argo. The one that got Best Movie award. Which she delivered. Is my point better already?
Yes and No. Yes in the sense that the award she handed out was for Best Movie. A big No in the sense that, as great of a movie as Argo was, its ending was fabricated to make it look like the Americans came off as the true heroes instead of the Canadians. That and the fact that Argo is based off of events from 1980. Not really much to work with politically today. Michelle Obama being at an awards show loses any calls to be claimed as politically charged due to the fact that she's been showing up to a large amount of events that the First Lady has never been to. Michelle Obama is probably the youngest,as well as most media friendly First Lady since Nancy Reagan, its kind of hard to paint her as showing up to push a political agenda. Especially in this instance. Had she been awarding Zero Dark Thirty, then I would strongly agree with you.
 

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People actually watch this stuff? Why?

OT: Didn't watch it , i figured it would suck. Which according to the OP it does . So dodged a bullet there .
I am the same way I am really into film but these awards are a joke it isn't that their decisions are a little off half the time it is that they are ALOT off almost every time. I mean Le Mis for best make-up when we had the Hobbit and above the Hobbit Cloud Atlas which completely redefined makeup effects essentially.
 

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AzrealMaximillion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I think you're a bit misinformed my friend. We're talking about Argo. The one that got Best Movie award. Which she delivered. Is my point better already?
Yes and No. Yes in the sense that the award she handed out was for Best Movie. A big No in the sense that, as great of a movie as Argo was, its ending was fabricated to make it look like the Americans came off as the true heroes instead of the Canadians. That and the fact that Argo is based off of events from 1980. Not really much to work with politically today. Michelle Obama being at an awards show loses any calls to be claimed as politically charged due to the fact that she's been showing up to a large amount of events that the First Lady has never been to. Michelle Obama is probably the youngest,as well as most media friendly First Lady since Nancy Reagan, its kind of hard to paint her as showing up to push a political agenda. Especially in this instance. Had she been awarding Zero Dark Thirty, then I would strongly agree with you.
My biggest problem with it was that it seems like a terrible waste of your Jack Nicholson. I mean, they trotted him out there for all of 10 seconds just so he could introduce the REAL presenter? Lame.
They could have just let Seth introduce her and not wasted everyone's time.