So, why do politicians hate video games.

Lufia Erim

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If videogames can have positives effects on certain people, why couldn't they also have negative effects?

Gamers obviously have a bias, which is why their cries are ignored.

Here's an easy example.

If Sad music can make you sad and that sadness can make you cry, and happy music can make you happy and that happiness makes you smile/laugh, then why can't angry music make you angry and that anger have you act out?
If sadness only makes you cry and happiness only makes you laugh, why would anger make you do anything but shout out loud in anger?
https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.831624-RAGE-QUIT-to-the-point-of-smashing-your-controller-monitor-keyboard-TV-etc

Well here's a thread on these very forums about people acting out due to rage. You tell me.
No, you tell me then why sadness only makes you cry and happiness only makes you laugh.
Only? I never said only. I said sadness can make you cry, it's literally there in the quote. Implying that emotions influence actions. Sadness is an emotion that influence your actions. So is happiness and anger.

To suggest otherwise is foolishness. Especially when i posted a thread, from the holier-than-thou escapists showing how rage and anger affects people's actions.
Yeah, and your examples of actions for sadness and happiness are pretty restrained and positive (to suggest that all acts coming from them are good is foolishness), while implying that acts of anger are always negative (specially when in games you can focus your anger back to the game by its gameplay).
That's why they are only examples. Ever heard of tears of happiness, Or tears of rage? What about a sad smile? Are you a robot? Do you not know what emotions are? Do you need me to spell out every example for you?

You are clearly not mature enough to have this conversation.
 

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There are a couple of reasons...

One reason is the characteristics required to become an elected representative. The type of people to become politicians (with a mixture of confidence and drive to change things or fight against something, as well as being outgoing and highly social) are generally not the type of people who are gamers. That's not to say gamers can't have these qualities, but if you look at it purely from a numbers perspective the likelihood is much smaller for a large percentage of the gaming world to have those qualities who also go into politics. Therefore, politicians can't connect to the gaming world as much because it's often so far outside their reality.

The other reason, in my opinion, is a generational thing. Most (not all) politicians at the moment are either baby boomers, Gen X or Millenials.

- Boomers at large weren't really exposed to gaming so don't understand it and see it as for children.
- People in Gen X played games but it was not in mainstream society, especially among adults - they might play them with their kids if they had them late in life.
- Early to mid Millenials play games more but there's still some social conditioning where there's some guilt associated with gaming (i.e. they don't want to be viewed as overgrown children, even if they secretly enjoy it).
- Late Millenials and Gen Z (or zoomers if you want) are more likely to embrace gaming as an adult as it's become more part of the culture.

I suspect as the older generation changes politicians will tend to be more accepting of their peers who still like video games since it's essentially their jobs to represent their areas.
 
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I don't think it's so much that politicians hate videogames, it's more that they're trying to score points with the part of the electorate that hate videogames. Ultimately, when push comes to shove, most politicians will points-score with potential voters rather than declare (or stick to) a moral viewpoint.
 

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Lufia Erim said:
You are clearly not mature enough to have this conversation.
Neither you are. I'm not the one trying to end the conversation after your false equivalences got called out.
 
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I'd say politicians that are against gaming fall into one of three categories:
1. Boomers - People don't understand gaming and think its the devil.
2. Crooks - Politicians that have taken donations (aka bribes) from the TV and film industries (gaming's main competitors) to damage their rival.
3. Opportunists - Politicians that don't really give a shit about videogames one way or the other, but find it a convenient scapegoat to distract from whatever the issue really is.
 

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2. Crooks - Politicians that have taken donations (aka bribes) from the TV and film industries (gaming's main competitors) to damage their rival.
First time I have heard of it. Whom are you specifically referring to?
 

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I know Trump flung some BS about games more or less recently, as he does, but for the most part I think the "videogame scare" has died out since the Columbine/GTA days. Besides they hardly have the monopoly on violence in media.
 

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Besides they hardly have the monopoly on violence in media.
They ever hardly had the monopoly on violence in media. That's why the Supreme Court ruled in videogames favor when they got compared with Grimm's Fairy Tales.