societal conventions you hate

[ShadowsofHope]

Western cultural behaviors towards sexuality.

Celebrity worship.

..Er, those are the two major ones, I guess.

 

[Farseer Lolotea]

Western cultural behaviors towards sexuality.

The fact that there's so little middle ground between abject shame and flagrant exploitation, you mean?

 

[The Rockerfly]

I hate the bullshit behind uni life, if you don't drink, party, cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend you are a complete social outcast. I'm sorry but if that's what is wrong here I don't want to be right.

Also how much hype people get to being drunk and the glorification behind it. For example using multiple different terms for intoxication and using it as an excuse to be the most obnoxious kind of human being on the planet

Exactly why i had to leave; i was pretty much made a social outcast because i didnt want to do any of that, so they wouldnt let me on any of the sports teams

It Sickens and Annoys me to this day

I feel your pain dude, most nights I'm on my own because I don't want to hang out with the shallow pricks that populate my uni. I tried to go on to the Tai Kwan Do team, I was the only serious one there (I've been doing it for 7 seven years) the rest there for drinking and partying. What the hell is the point? Shouldn't you be in a group to do things in that groups title.

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[Sarcastic_Applause]

I hate the bullshit behind uni life, if you don't drink, party, cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend you are a complete social outcast. I'm sorry but if that's what is wrong here I don't want to be right.

Also how much hype people get to being drunk and the glorification behind it. For example using multiple different terms for intoxication and using it as an excuse to be the most obnoxious kind of human being on the planet

Exactly why i had to leave; i was pretty much made a social outcast because i didnt want to do any of that, so they wouldnt let me on any of the sports teams

It Sickens and Annoys me to this day

I feel your pain dude, most nights I'm on my own because I don't want to hang out with the shallow pricks that populate my uni. I tried to go on to the Tai Kwan Do team, I was the only serious one there (I've been doing it for 7 seven years) the rest there for drinking and partying. What the hell is the point? Shouldn't you be in a group to do things in that groups title.

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Sucks man, i hate that; i dont understand why the drinking culture has to be a prerequisite (almost hobby) in order to be seen as normal. If anything i see it as unnatural.
Amen to that man, they should be committed to their sport, i wouldnt mind going out socially, but there never seems to be a middle ground.

Im thankful for my friends now though an amalgamation of like minded Thai fighters and a special group that not only accepts my video game/anime referencing self, but actually start referencing them themselves.

Bide your time though mate, you'll find a few diamonds in the rough

 

[Levethian]

Uni. It's a personal journey, but for me is was a railroading, pointless, expensive, stressful dribble-fest dressed up as a door-opener.

That most office jobs could very easily be done from a home office, since all they involve is using an email client and a website. But you are still required to commute in to an office to do them, thereby often sucking 2+ hours out of your day.

Also a massive energy consumer & polluter, these pointless commutes.

 

[PurplePlatypus]

People saying ?It can?t be that bad? because I?m not smiling at that moment. I?m not glum, I?m not upset, and I?m probably quite content actually. This is just what a face look like when it isn?t supporting any particular expression.

 

[beema]

1. Are you a teenager by some chance? There was talk about changing secondary school hours to better suit teens (who naturally run on a later cycle than adults) so depending on the company that's actually a rather good idea.

2. The main reasons for a central office are ease of data management for security and ease of monitoring employees for productivity. There's all kinds of hairy things that can happen if you send important data out to people's homes for use on their own computers. You can't 100% guarantee the connection is secure, you can't guarantee the security of the user's computer and you also can't guarantee the honesty and vigilance of the employee.

In theory it's a good idea and in certain cases it can work but as soon as data is confidential/important it becomes unworkable.

Not a teenager, I'm 27, but I guess I still run on a "teenager" clock. I think a lot of people do.

I can understand the need for secure computing environments, but I'm sure there are ways to do that outside of the office and to enforce security for telecommuters. Many companies are probably just too lazy/set in their ways to attempt it though. I think a lot of jobs out there such security requirements wouldn't even be necessary. Most of my job, for instance, entails posting updates to a website that are all seen by the public anyways.

 

[beema]

The real pain in the arse for home office work is actually the end computer. A VPN with good encryption is secure enough and pretty robust to boot but it's the end-user that'll give you grief. Windows 7 and it's excellent built-in antivirus plus the increasing prevalence of Macs alleviate this a bit but home users are slobs, if they CAN get a virus they WILL get a virus.

Of course the problem is then that any worm or other piece of crap that gets into that home PC (you don't want your database on the same PC as his porn browsing, let's leave it at that) will be able to waltz straight into your business network. There's a normal non-technical layer of protection in that people don't hit up dodgy sites at work and that the business can keep the OS updated. One of the reasons Windows 7 is so insistent about updates is that, when left to their own devices, Microsoft found that almost no one installs updates and...well..."the Internet is for porn!"

Of course, don't let that stop you hating it. You're right; it's incredibly frustrating.

Do you mean like if when the employee is not connected to the VPN, they use their work computer to otherwise browse the internet, get a virus, then later when the reconnect to the VPN, the virus can get transmitted back through it?

My girlfriend works from home some times via VPN and she cannot go to websites her work blocks until she disconnects from it. But then, it's her work computer, so she doesn't use it for personal stuff usually.

I guess most people aren't trustworthy enough to behave like her. :/
shit, I used my work computer for "bad internet" all the time back when I had a take-home laptop. LOL
I guess I'm part of the problem...
That computer didn't connect to any office/company networks though.

 

[Zeekar]

Political correctness. I ignore it, but fortunately I'm usually a smooth enough talker that people have a hard time getting angry at me for being blunt.

I still can't help but wish people weren't so absurdly entitled. Oh, god forbid you be offended -- everyone should just use "Alternate words" so as to skirt your delicate sensibilities.

Emphasis on the "skirt".

Just kidding, ladies.

 

[Arisato-kun]

I hate the bullshit behind uni life, if you don't drink, party, cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend you are a complete social outcast. I'm sorry but if that's what is wrong here I don't want to be right.

Also how much hype people get to being drunk and the glorification behind it. For example using multiple different terms for intoxication and using it as an excuse to be the most obnoxious kind of human being on the planet

Remind me to stay away from whatever university you go to. Mine usually hosts video game tourneys and everyone and their mother has a bottle of Mountain Dew at all times. It's awesome.

OT: People acting like it's cool to say religion is a completely awful thing. Sure it may not be for you, I'm not a very religious man myself, but I've seen some people completely turn their lives around thanks to a little spirituality.

Just most ones in the UK the main ones being in cities and one with any clubs. I swear if I knew this before I went I would have gone somewhere else. Where do you go?

Edinboro University of Pennsylvania. It's mostly art majors which kind of explains everything I just mentioned.

 

[robincb]

Women usually getting the cake and eating it.
The whole feministic approach to things, in which women are independant but on the other hand some women also require men to be chivalrous AT THE SAME TIME.

There's a difference between feminism and people just being nice to each other, you twat. Women are just asking to be treated fairly. I would expect a woman to hold a door for me just as much as a man.

Honestly, why do women keep using this argument. Sure there may be some that want to be treated as just equals and nothing more, but at the same time there are women who actually hate men. Conversely there are also women fo feel just at home as the delicate little flower that has to have everything done for her. it's confusing and it is forcing us men to hold individual standards according to the type of woman you are dealing with, it is discouraging.

 

[Farseer Lolotea]

Honestly, why do women keep using this argument.

Because it's generally accurate, perhaps?

Sure there may be some that want to be treated as just equals and nothing more, but at the same time there are women who actually hate men.

Some, but (again) not as many as people tend to claim. (And I somehow doubt they're actually the same women who wonder why you're holding that door.)

Conversely there are also women fo feel just at home as the delicate little flower that has to have everything done for her. it's confusing and it is forcing us men to hold individual standards according to the type of woman you are dealing with, it is discouraging.

Think of it this way, then: Human beings are individuals. Everyone is going to have to be dealt with in a somewhat different fashion. And no matter how hard you try, you're not going to be able to impress everyone.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

Nobody dresses nice anymore. Or wears fancy hats

You must have got this already but ... seriously. Royal Wedding.


Anyway, the convention that because someone is sexually attracted to children they are inherently evil? Oh, people thinking they can judge you without understanding your intent.

 

[Doctor Glocktor]

Nobody dresses nice anymore. Or wears fancy hats

You must have got this already but ... seriously. Royal Wedding.


Anyway, the convention that because someone is sexually attracted to children they are inherently evil? Oh, people thinking they can judge you without understanding your intent.

But isn't your intent those young children your sexually attracted to?

 

[ReservoirAngel]

Chivalry. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a woman-hater (sexually yes, but in general I'm not).

I just find that whole idea of men always being 100% courteous and polite to women thing...stupid. I'm not saying we should be allowed to hit them, cause that's still fucked up. But that people get annoyed with men who don't do stuff like hold doors open for women. It's fucking retarded.

Particularly since the people who get pissed off with guys not obeying these unspoken rules of pampering women tend to be women. Particularly women who want 'gender equality'

You can't be equal yet still be waited on hand and foot! It doesn't fucking work that way you lazy, entitled bitches!

 

[The Rockerfly]

Edinboro University of Pennsylvania. It's mostly art majors which kind of explains everything I just mentioned.

Maybe it's different over the pond, how's the music scene over there? A lot of people in the UK have a irritable taste in music with bland pop and warp warp dubsteps

 

[ShadowsofHope]

Western cultural behaviors towards sexuality.

The fact that there's so little middle ground between abject shame and flagrant exploitation, you mean?

That depends. Elaborate a little more on whom or what specifically you are referring to by "abject shame" and "flagrant exploitation". I'd rather not add or detract from your actual meaning by assuming off the bat.

On my end, I was simply referring to the excessive and unnecessary censorship of sexual images and material that comes from a Puritan history in the West of being uncomfortable with any public sexual imagery of activity that deviates from the missionary position/married couple normative (this includes homosexuality and I suppose transgendered individuals), and the practice of anyone deviating from that perceived "normative" sexual lifestyle to be considered a promiscuous (unfortunately this word is only thought of in the negative connotation), irresponsible slut (or manwhore).

Now when it comes to sexual objectification, I only find such to be negative when the objectification of the individual is only brought about by the intent to make the individual look nothing more than a slut, and a tool to use (porn does do this to an extent, but it does it with the penis as well). When objectification is used as a positive force, such as simply something like a modelling shoot or a Playboy (or Playgirl, although both are debatable sometimes) magazine in which the human body is displayed as something to be admired and appreciated on a physical and sexual level as well as an emotional level, then I rather endorse the practice.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

Hyperbole is where someone exaggerates a point, either to make it sound more convincing or to produce an effect, including a comic effect.

If you read that as sarcasm. Meh, I didn't. Maybe don't be so quick to leap inarticulately to the defence of posts if you're not sure of the meaning though.

No, sarcasm isn't meaningless, but that does not mean that you should go on a page-long rant at somebody about the literal meaning of a statement when it clearly is not meant to be taken literally.

If you think I think was taking that post literally, maybe you have a problem with reading intention. Because I don't think I was.

The underlying intention there was pretty clear.

As it is, I'm not fully sure why I'm arguing this, although I do find your reactions to be fairly amusing.

Good for you.

Why thank you. You've amused me again with 'leaping inarticulately.'

By your definition of hyberpole (which is correct, I can't argue against that), the poster would still be implying that women are somehow oppressive despite his actually wording (tyrannical) being an exaggeration. I don't think this is the case. Sarcasm may not be the correct word either. It seemed to be parodying people who actually do think like that, perhaps?

Honestly? I didn't read your entire post. I'm not about to re-read it. You certainly came across as rather scathing.
Reading intention in a post on a forum is fairly difficult, but your tone seemed serious. I'm sorry if that was just me jumping to conclusions.

As for the poster's underlying intention? Isn't it entirely clear? Apparently you could deduce from it that he was some kind of chauvenistic pig that has never respected women in his entire existence, so I'm assuming it was quite clear...

Just thought of another convention.
OT: The convention that one should ruthlessly pursue a line of argument until one side is proven conclusively to be wrong.

A bit hypocritical, as I started this argument off.
Meh.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

Edinboro University of Pennsylvania. It's mostly art majors which kind of explains everything I just mentioned.

Maybe it's different over the pond, how's the music scene over there? A lot of people in the UK have a irritable taste in music with bland pop and warp warp dubsteps

I know :/ its upsetting that so much shite comes from a country that produced Iron Maiden, Forefather, Muse...
Bah, I'm stuck already. Ohh, motorhead too.

The bland pop music drives me insane. I have to listen to it on the bus to and from college every day (50minutes-ish, each way) and I swear its corroding my brain.

 

[Arisato-kun]

Edinboro University of Pennsylvania. It's mostly art majors which kind of explains everything I just mentioned.

Maybe it's different over the pond, how's the music scene over there? A lot of people in the UK have a irritable taste in music with bland pop and warp warp dubsteps

The most popular bands among us consist of Arcade Fire, The Wonder Years, Fireworks, Muse, Modest Mouse, Foxy Shazam, Phoenix, The Mars Volta, Vampire Weekend, Metric and Title Fight.

Ska's also a popular genre in some circles. Streetlight Manifesto and Reel Big Fish are the two big bands here.

But for our musical performer last year it made no sense. We got Yung Joc of all people. Not very many kids on campus went and the ones that came from off campus got the cops called on em. :/