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someonehairy-ish said:
I'm fairly sure it was sarcasm. I'm also fully aware of what hyperbole is. I do not think the poster was being hyperbolic, as that would imply that he thinks women are oppressive, even if he isn't so extreme as to really believe that they are tyrannical.
Would you like to me read the first page for you?

TheIronRuler said:
Women are usually getting the cake and eating it.
The whole feministic approach to things, in which women are independant but on the other hand some women also require men to be chivalrous AT THE SAME TIME.
TheIronRuler said:
I've stopped counting the times I was faced by near extinction when I opened a door for a woman, or on the other hand refused to do so. There is no consensus in that matter and I don't know which one I should be - your equal or your knight in shining armor?
For the time being I accept my role as a twat.
*cough* wanker *cough*
Sarcasm is where someone says the the opposite of what they mean in order to ridicule that point.

Hyperbole is where someone exaggerates a point, either to make it sound more convincing or to produce an effect, including a comic effect.

If you read that as sarcasm. Meh, I didn't. Maybe don't be so quick to leap inarticulately to the defence of posts if you're not sure of the meaning though.

someonehairy-ish said:
No, sarcasm isn't meaningless, but that does not mean that you should go on a page-long rant at somebody about the literal meaning of a statement when it clearly is not meant to be taken literally.
If you think I think was taking that post literally, maybe you have a problem with reading intention. Because I don't think I was.

I'm not going to repeat a post I got put on probation for, but if you're that interested go back and read it again and ask yourself how deadly serious you actually think I'm being.

I don't particularly care whether you think the particular post I quoted was 'serious' or not. The underlying intention there was pretty clear.

someonehairy-ish said:
As it is, I'm not fully sure why I'm arguing this, although I do find your reactions to be fairly amusing.
Good for you.
 

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Feminist crying out for equal rights when they just want the same benefits as men but not the same cost i.e. selective service. I'm all for equal pay and benefits but personally I've yet to meet a woman that has the same job as a man and receives lesser benefits and pay there's a woman I work with that actually gets pay more than the head of the plant. Then again I work in a factory so there's not much variety in the jobs.
 

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Saying "bless you" when you sneeze. Not the actual act of saying it but rather the fact that it's been in use for what seems like centuries yet whenever someone is coughing we don't say anything unless we feel a need to do so.

Seriously, I was coughing quite a bit the other day and what do I hear after a few minutes?
"Do you need some water?"

So a random sneeze from nowhere and I'm basically told a phrase that amounts to "I hope you don't die" but if I'm coughing a lot I get nothing until someone asks if I want some water? It's like coughing is an annoyance but sneezing is perfectly fine so long as it's not in anyone's face.
 

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The fact that it is considered unmanly to slowly drink beer and other alcoholic beverages, I'm not going to drink my drink as fast as I can especially after I just bought it a minute ago and actually want to enjoy it.
 

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Censorship.

If an artist puts a naughty word in a song, he puts it there for a reason. Changing the word, censoring it with a high-pitched beeping noise, or cutting into silence in the song disrupts the flow of the piece. If there's a novel in which the characters use offensive language, that's the way the character is meant to be portrayed. Nothing is added into an artistic piece just because it can be, it's added there to create some kind of effect.
 
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Evil Moo said:
Kind of adding to the suits thing mentioned above: having to wear formal clothing on any occasion and by extension, having to wear anything other than what I want to wear for no reason other than social convention.

Seriously, what is the difference between me wearing a suit to a job interview rather than the infinitely more comfortable and practical jeans and a t-shirt? This is a point that I'm sure is either going to lose me many potential jobs in the future, or frustrate the hell out of me every time I have to do it, to the point that I will have to restrain myself from smashing my head repeatedly against a wall.
I concur. I hate formal clothes. I hate suits, ties, etc. They annoy me. They don't fit my style and are not comfy. I LIKE my normal (and sometimes nice) T-Shirts and Sweaters, can't I just wear those? Well...At least it's better than what women have to deal with...I cannot understand why they keep strapping those torture devices onto their feet. It's stupid.

I also dislike the fact that men are expected to be tough, sports loving handymen. And that Women have to be both soft and demure while also being go getters in terms of work. Why not just let everyone be who they are and not hold them to any kind of stupid convention?

I just think it's stupid to want everyone to follow specific standards. Everyone is different. Unless you're in the army you should always be allowed to express it societal expectations be damned.
 

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Arisato-kun said:
The Rockerfly said:
I hate the bullshit behind uni life, if you don't drink, party, cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend you are a complete social outcast. I'm sorry but if that's what is wrong here I don't want to be right.

Also how much hype people get to being drunk and the glorification behind it. For example using multiple different terms for intoxication and using it as an excuse to be the most obnoxious kind of human being on the planet
Remind me to stay away from whatever university you go to. Mine usually hosts video game tourneys and everyone and their mother has a bottle of Mountain Dew at all times. It's awesome.

OT: People acting like it's cool to say religion is a completely awful thing. Sure it may not be for you, I'm not a very religious man myself, but I've seen some people completely turn their lives around thanks to a little spirituality.
Just most ones in the UK the main ones being in cities and one with any clubs. I swear if I knew this before I went I would have gone somewhere else. Where do you go?
 

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I hate the sheepish, childish approach to sex and nudity that society has. People are so timid about their own bodily functions.
 

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evilthecat said:
Over-analyzing
Did I miss something interesting? A message popped out that you were quoting me, apparently you were discussing the meaning of my posts...
You could ask me directly.
 

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The Rockerfly said:
I hate the bullshit behind uni life, if you don't drink, party, cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend you are a complete social outcast. I'm sorry but if that's what is wrong here I don't want to be right.

Also how much hype people get to being drunk and the glorification behind it. For example using multiple different terms for intoxication and using it as an excuse to be the most obnoxious kind of human being on the planet
Exactly why i had to leave; i was pretty much made a social outcast because i didnt want to do any of that, so they wouldnt let me on any of the sports teams :mad:

It Sickens and Annoys me to this day
 
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Football, or Soccer depending on where you are at the time. I hate the game so much, I much prefer cricket yet I have to get most of the results reading the news online an certanly can't watch a full game on TV even a limited over match without paying subscription charges to Sky on top of my TV licence. What really drives me mad is our football team are usless yet they are the focus of the media. Take last year full coverage of us failing to get to the FIFA world cup finals, not a word on us winning the Twenty20 world cup.
 

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S3Cs4uN 8 said:
why maoris just get shit handed to them in NZ
Because we have a pussy footing government?

The Rockerfly said:
I hate the bullshit behind uni life, if you don't drink, party, cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend you are a complete social outcast. I'm sorry but if that's what is wrong here I don't want to be right.

Also how much hype people get to being drunk and the glorification behind it. For example using multiple different terms for intoxication and using it as an excuse to be the most obnoxious kind of human being on the planet
It really depends on your countries surrounding culture as a whole. In New Zealalnd, basically anyone who isn't a "social" outcast in your terms is a douchebag., a tool. They're unoriginal and wholly forgettable.
 

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The convention that because I have a penis I can only look at women as objects, and that when I say I respect women I get looked at like OJ on trial.

I also suits and long pants. Not because I hate the way they look, but because I have such a high natural body temperature and insulating factor that when it's -2°C I wear shorts and two shirts and feel comfortable(sometimes with sandals) and yet when I wear pants in that situation I break sweat.
 

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I'm all for being polite and a gentleman but sometimes there are certain people that make it incredibly difficult, namely Mothers with Prams! (or strollers if that's what they are called in the US) I will always give a woman pushing a baby in a pram right of way walking down a street but I used to have to walk over a narrow-ish bridge to get to work which was next to a school and there would always be two sets of woman with prams taking up the entire span of the bridge when I was walking across. They would give me really dirty looks when i didn't instantly jump off the edge and either plummet 30ft into traffic or hang on until they pass!
 

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You're either gay or no girl likes you when you don't have a girlfriend. I enjoy being single, I don't have to go out with her every 2-3 days, we don't have 3 hour long phone calls and I save money. Is it really that big of a deal when somebody DOESNT have a girlfriend?

mfG diebane
 

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diebane said:
You're either gay or no girl likes you when you don't have a girlfriend. I enjoy being single, I don't have to go out with her every 2-3 days, we don't have 3 hour long phone calls and I save money. Is it really that big of a deal when somebody DOESNT have a girlfriend?

mfG diebane
I'd say valentines day, particularly because this problem becomes ten times worse. If you have a GF you suddenly have to be Mr Romantic and treat them like royalty (neverminding how you treat them the rest of the year) or you're a dick. On the other hand - point this out when you're single and everyone assumes you're just pissed because you're single for the day. It doesn't matter if, deep down, you do think the day is utter garbage no one will take you seriously if you're single.
 

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I can't stand people who feel they are a godsend as you should kiss their ass, and the people who persecute you when you don't because "you are being rude for no reason".

It's the basis of the asshole customer and the doormat manager that has screwed up almost every working environment out there.
 

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stinkychops said:
Then what was your point?
I pulled something because it was argumentative and could have been construed as provocateurism. You decided to be argumentative anyway.

A thin skinned one? How is calling you out for making a non-point thin skinned? Or are you just throwing as much mud as possible and hoping some of it sticks?
...what? I haven't "thrown" any "mud."

Should I cry about you calling me 'think skinned' or is this another case of you being flawless and thus not being a complete hypocrite? Wait nope my mistake, you're a flat out hypocrite, sorry bro.
I just love how the Internet has reduced "hypocrite" to a generic snarl word flung in an attempt to auto-discredit the opposition.

I'd say theres a significant difference, my assertions were at least suggested by her manner and post.

May I ask why you are quoting/criticizing me and yet not applying the same arguments to her? I'll go ahead and assume its bias because you agree with her.
Well, let's see:
JanatUrlich said:
The problem is that people like you are blind to the fact that the world is not equal.
That's the rudest thing she said. In fact, it's the only thing she said that was aimed at you in particular and could be construed as rude. (Her assertion that the forum was sexist was fairly general.)

You, on the other hand, came in with a flippant dismissal of one of her earlier posts, got combative as soon as she replied to you, and have remained that way.

This is a poorly veiled attempt to argue around the point at hand by attacking my posts.
Sorry, but all of the "attacking" here has been on your end, with the possible exception of the "blind" comment. And that was pretty tame by comparison.

I see you didn;t take my prompt to discuss the topic at hand, which I'll take as a sign that you don't actually have anything worthwhile to say.
I did discuss "the topic at hand." If you ignored it, that's on you.

Actually, I used the word trivial. You yourself just called it minor. Don't lie.
You did dismiss it as irrelevant. You acknowledged that she'd brought it up, then completely brushed it off. Calling me a liar because you didn't use that exact word doesn't prove anything.

I'd suggest you were deliberately misrepresenting my argument, but I won't give you that much credit.
Well, that was the equivalent of making moose antlers of your hands and going "neener neener neener."

Go back to my original post and link to me, if you would be so kind, the pieces where I "brush off" and be "dismissive".
Well, let's see:
stinkychops said:
As for your trivial complaints about clothing conventions... Way to cherry pick scenarios. I'm not going to engage in a little "WE HAVE IT WORSE" duke route, and begin listing all the things men have worse then women.
Here's what I take it you were responding to:
JanatUrlich said:
A woman is called a slut for wearing a short skirt but it is perfectly acceptable for a man to walk around bare chested.
Sure, in the grand scheme of things, clothing conventions are minor. But considering the example she used (only moderately extreme and not at all rare), you could have at least bothered to actually address it instead of contemptuously brushing it off.

Instead of supplying arguments which you find offensive. I'm not going to apologise for your sensitivity. I'm just going to briefly refer back to my mention of "need for victimisation" in my post to Janat Ulrich. Feel free to give that some thought.
Y'know...in light of the fact that I accused you of being thin-skinned, that looks suspiciously like a "NO U."

Heaven forbid I be making an argument, instead of attacking the poor oppressed females!
No, you're just championing the poor oppressed males. And breaking out a wounded-gazelle gambit, while you're at it.

Of course, because when I point out someone being rude, and label them based on a post that's unacceptable.

When you do the EXACT same thing to me, you're a hero.
Your response was disproportionate, and I rest my case.

You're not even trying.
You're not exactly making it difficult.

(That was a terrible stretch of my metaphor)
And yet, you felt the need to snip at it anyway. Clearly, it stung.

Ozzythecat said:
The convention that because I have a penis I can only look at women as objects, and that when I say I respect women I get looked at like OJ on trial.
I'm sorry that you've run into some women of the sort that I tend to call "female-chauvinist sows." Some people, regardless of gender, are just jerks.