L.B. Jeffries said:
Yog Sothoth said:
L.B. Jeffries said:
It wasn't that good. The giant squid was important. The excessive violence wasn't needed.
Read the book again. The violence wasn't the least bit excessive. Though I don't hold it against you for disliking the film for other reasons....
Looking at my copy right now. Yes. Yes it was. It was typical Snyder Slo-Mo glorification of pummeling and breaking bones. This isn't a comic book, disturbing images lodge into your mind more than slower sections do. In the comic the fight between Spectre & Owl versus the thugs is a few panels. In the film it's a Matrix brawl. Same for the prison. The book was never about violence, it was about the people using it.
I'm not going to ever like this film because it never should've been a movie in the first place. To be quite honest, not many things should be. The long list of video games that make for crappy films is more than enough proof that the entire notion that I have to like the film version as much as I do the source material is nonsense.
What do you suppose a "Matrix brawl" might look like in a comic book...? You can do a lot with just a few frames...
While I agree that much of the violence in the film isn't a shot-for-shot reproduction of the book, the book is still inherently violent. Look at the scene (in the book, not the film) when Ozymandias is attacked by the assassin, or when the thug trapped on Rorscharch's cell door is killed... both those scenes are very graphic, and don't hold anything back.
Hell, there's even a blood splotch on the front cover of the book, which should be a dead give away that this is a violent piece of work; a warning, as it were, as to what the reader can expect to find within.
You're correct in that the story isn't
about violence, but it does
use violence to tell it's story. In my view, the film was no more violent than the book.
Keane Ng said:
The alley fight, sure, that was bad. Worse was the butcher knife scene, where, I mean, what was the point really of it being that gruesome, especially when the way it's done in the book is way better. I think that's more indicative of the movie's poor handling of violence - it was just hollow and overblown.
That I will agree with. While the film and the book are equally violent in my
humble opinion, the violence in the book was more tasteful, if such a thing is possible....
EDIT: Back on topic, I was going to see it again this weekend anyways, and if it will make Snake happy in the process that's even better..... Didn't know he co-wrote the script, kinda interesting. Maybe he should write the screenplay for the
Metal Gear Solid film, too....