Some questions for ALL dubstep listeners (Yes. Another dubstep thread)

[DJDarque]

So recently I've seen a lot of arguments regarding dubstep. It seems like a lot (not all, mind you) of original dubstep fans despise the new style of dubstep that has arisen (Skrillex, etc), and a lot of newer dubstep fans seem to know nothing about the original genre.

So I pose these questions to you.

Fans of the originals: Does the rise in popularity of new dubstep seriously bother you? Do you not like it (and why?), or does it just bother you that some of (not all) of the newer fans don't know about the classic stuff? Also, if you were to try and educate them what artists and songs would you recommend they listen to?

To the new fans: Do you know about the origins of the genre? Do you listen to old dubstep as well as old dubstep? Do you even care to?

As for me. I started listening to dubstep last year. Skrillex did originally introduce me to the genre, but I've expanded collection and listen to a wide variety of dubstep now. I know how it started and really enjoy some of the original stuff; however, the newer style is better sounding to me (I am a bass fanatic). If it weren't for the newer stuff I wouldn't even know this genre existed.

And one last thing. Can we please stop calling it brostep? That name is just stupid.

 

[Vault101]

alothough I had some interest in dubstep...it made me brach out into other (better?) genres of elctronic

I dont mind skrillex though ive never seen him as "dubstep" more a hodge-podge of different genres in an obnoxious way

 

[StBishop]

In answer to your questions.

(New... fan, it's stretch, I have no problem with Dubstep but I prefer Drum and Bass) I know nothing of it's origins. I don't really care to, although I'd be keen to listen to original Dubstep, working on the assumption that I've not listened to it already unwittingly.

I didn't know it was called brostep.

Also, nice avatar.

alothough I had some interest in dubstep...it made me brach out into other (better?) genres of elctronic

I dont mind skrillex though ive never seen him as "dubstep" more a hodge-podge of different genres in an obnoxious way

How do you always seem to beat me? Also, how bloody hot is it right now???

 

[Lilani]

I never got anyone who would argue about something like a certain kind of music. It's like arguing about your favorite food--there is absolutely nothing to argue it's all based on your own personal tastes. Whether or not someone else likes it or thinks it's music or not is their own problem.

Now that I've gotten that out of my system, I like exactly two dubstep songs, myself. The rise in popularity doesn't bother me so much as the type of thinking that has come out of it (see above). I don't know the "classic stuff" myself so I can't say that bothers me, either. I'd point them to the couple of songs I do like, I know the Truth [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wCgxkQj_Qo] by Pretty Lights and First of the Year [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cXDgFwE13g] by Skrillex.

I do not know the origins, and I am not aware of the "oldies" of dubstep, and I'm pretty neutral about it. If somebody pointed me in the direction of the "oldies" or similar stuff to what I like I'd give it a listen, but at the moment I'm not frothing with desire for moar dubstep.

 

[StBishop]

I never got anyone who would argue about something like a certain kind of music. It's like arguing about your favorite food--there is absolutely nothing to argue it's all based on your own personal tastes. Whether or not someone else likes it or thinks it's music or not is their own problem.

Now that I've gotten that out of my system, I like exactly two dubstep songs, myself. The rise in popularity doesn't bother me so much as the type of thinking that has come out of it (see above). I don't know the "classic stuff" myself so I can't say that bothers me, either. I'd point them to the couple of songs I do like, I know the Truth [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wCgxkQj_Qo] by Pretty Lights and First of the Year [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cXDgFwE13g] by Skrillex.

I do not know the origins, and I am not aware of the "oldies" of dubstep, and I'm pretty neutral about it. If somebody pointed me in the direction of the "oldies" or similar stuff to what I like I'd give it a listen, but at the moment I'm not frothing with desire for moar dubstep.

I fucking love Pretty Lights. Someone linked the Country Roads remix on here the other week and I've fallen in love.

While the song you linked was pretty obviously Dubstep, would the other stuff (for example this) be considered Dubstep?

I'm pretty useless at genres in music.

 

[Vault101]

In answer to your questions.

(New... fan, it's stretch, I have no problem with Dubstep but I prefer Drum and Bass) I know nothing of it's origins. I don't really care to, although I'd be keen to listen to original Dubstep, working on the assumption that I've not listened to it already unwittingly.

I didn't know it was called brostep.

Also, nice avatar.

alothough I had some interest in dubstep...it made me brach out into other (better?) genres of elctronic

I dont mind skrillex though ive never seen him as "dubstep" more a hodge-podge of different genres in an obnoxious way

How do you always seem to beat me? Also, how bloody hot is it right now???

I dont know Im just so damn fast that Im replying before Its even told me Im quoted ....

also yes...its a fucking oven (and I feel like its gone super-nova everyone I step outside..so bright..so much glare) thank the lord I have air conditioing

 

[StBishop]

In answer to your questions.

(New... fan, it's stretch, I have no problem with Dubstep but I prefer Drum and Bass) I know nothing of it's origins. I don't really care to, although I'd be keen to listen to original Dubstep, working on the assumption that I've not listened to it already unwittingly.

I didn't know it was called brostep.

Also, nice avatar.

alothough I had some interest in dubstep...it made me brach out into other (better?) genres of elctronic

I dont mind skrillex though ive never seen him as "dubstep" more a hodge-podge of different genres in an obnoxious way

How do you always seem to beat me? Also, how bloody hot is it right now???

I dont know Im just so damn fast that Im replying before Its even told me Im quoted ....

also yes...its a fucking oven (and I feel like its gone super-nova everyone I step outside..so bright..so much glare) thank the lord I have air conditioing

I can't believe it, and 42 degrees on Australia day?? Get out!
Oh my slight derailment.

Any chance that there's some decent dub step with nice lyrics at all? Not just remixes? That'd be nice.

 

[DJDarque]

I dont mind skrillex though ive never seen him as "dubstep" more a hodge-podge of different genres in an obnoxious way

I will agree that his music and style is kind of all over the place, but I like it.

I never got anyone who would argue about something like a certain kind of music. It's like arguing about your favorite food--there is absolutely nothing to argue it's all based on your own personal tastes. Whether or not someone else likes it or thinks it's music or not is their own problem.

Regardless I've seen it happen a bit here lately. Also, youtube commenters live to argue about which music they think is shit.

I really do not understand why people call it dubstep. It has nothing to do with the genre that popped out of the UK garage scene 8 years ago. Like, NOTHING. Its at a different speed, the vibe is different, hell, even the way the damn songs are produced are different.

You could say the same thing with a lot of subgenres that branched from their parent genre.

In closing, if you like bass, you are much better off with schranz, and if you dont like schranz and prefer brostep, you probably also like trying to pull off 360 no scopes in MW2 on xbox live. And you are not older than 12.

Hey now. No scoping is a bullshit strategy. I don't really play Call of Duty. And I'm ten years older than that.

(Im just kidding with the last part. But imma leave some schranz here anyway. Shit gets real at 1:50. Be sure to listen to it in at least 720p, anything below sounds terrible.)

Tried it. Didn't really like it. :/

 

[Vault101]

In answer to your questions.

(New... fan, it's stretch, I have no problem with Dubstep but I prefer Drum and Bass) I know nothing of it's origins. I don't really care to, although I'd be keen to listen to original Dubstep, working on the assumption that I've not listened to it already unwittingly.

I didn't know it was called brostep.

Also, nice avatar.

alothough I had some interest in dubstep...it made me brach out into other (better?) genres of elctronic

I dont mind skrillex though ive never seen him as "dubstep" more a hodge-podge of different genres in an obnoxious way

How do you always seem to beat me? Also, how bloody hot is it right now???

I dont know Im just so damn fast that Im replying before Its even told me Im quoted ....

also yes...its a fucking oven (and I feel like its gone super-nova everyone I step outside..so bright..so much glare) thank the lord I have air conditioing

I can't believe it, and 42 degrees on Australia day?? Get out!
Oh my slight derailment.

Any chance that there's some decent dub step with nice lyrics at all? Not just remixes? That'd be nice.

how apropriate.....

hmmm well theres this


but its a remix

 

[DJDarque]

Any chance that there's some decent dub step with nice lyrics at all? Not just remixes? That'd be nice.

Sadly most of the dubstep songs with lyrics I know happen to be remixes of other non-dubstep songs, but here's a couple.

 

[Jazoni89]

In answer to your questions.

(New... fan, it's stretch, I have no problem with Dubstep but I prefer Drum and Bass) I know nothing of it's origins. I don't really care to, although I'd be keen to listen to original Dubstep, working on the assumption that I've not listened to it already unwittingly.

I didn't know it was called brostep.

Also, nice avatar.

Well, it's origins are quite simple really. Americans created a style of music in Gay Bars in 80's New York that we now call House. The House scene was getting huge popularity in the UK with the arrival of the Madchester scene which fused styles of House, with alternative Indie Rock. The House (and of course Madchester) scenes in the UK grew cold towards the mid 90's with closure of famous House clubs (such as The Haçienda), and the public shift towards Brit-Pop. The House fans needed a musical revolution, and a new genre appeared from the ashes of the 80's scene, UK Garage. UK Garage blended House with various genres such as Jungle, and included pitch shifted vocal samples, and beat skipping kick Drums. This new style of House had edge, and was immensely popular spawning acts like the So Solid Crew, Artful Dodger, The Streets, DJ Luck and MC Neat. It even managed to work it's way into the Mainstream with artists like Craig David, and Ms Dynamite. It was short lived however, as there was a huge musical shift in the mid Noughties, that caused UK Garage to be split into four sub genres all different from each other. Grime (which fused Garage with Chav esque Rapping), Uk Funky (that fused African and Latin percussion with Garage), Bassline (also known as Speed Garage), and of course Dubstep (which fused two step Garage with Dub). Dubstep becomes a very popular scene in London towards the end of the decade, America picks up on this new trend, and makes Brostep (which has heavier Dub elements and less of the Two step Garage that created the genre), and the rest is history.

There is actually a new subgenre for Dubstep now (due to the distaste of Dubstep's popularity), that still features it's original Garage roots, called Future Garage. Artists such as SBTRKT and Burial are of this genre.

 

[StBishop]

In answer to your questions.

(New... fan, it's stretch, I have no problem with Dubstep but I prefer Drum and Bass) I know nothing of it's origins. I don't really care to, although I'd be keen to listen to original Dubstep, working on the assumption that I've not listened to it already unwittingly.

I didn't know it was called brostep.

Also, nice avatar.

Well, it's origins are quite simple really. Americans created a style of music in Gay Bars in 80's New York that we now call House. The House scene was getting huge popularity in the UK with the arrival of the Madchester scene which fused styles of House, with alternative Indie Rock. The House (and of course Madchester) scenes in the UK grew cold towards the mid 90's with closure of famous House clubs (such as The Haçienda), and the public shift towards Brit-Pop. The House fans needed a musical revolution, and a new genre appeared from the ashes of the 80's scene, UK Garage. UK Garage blended House with various genres such as Jungle, and included pitch shifted vocal samples, and beat skipping kick Drums. This new style of House had edge, and was immensely popular spawning acts like the So Solid Crew, Artful Dodger, The Streets, DJ Luck and MC Neat. It even managed to work it's way into the Mainstream with artists like Craig David, and Ms Dynamite. It was short lived however, as there was a huge musical shift in the mid Noughties, that caused UK Garage to be split into four sub genres all different from each other. Grime (which fused Garage with Chav esque Rapping), Uk Funky (that fused African and Latin percussion with Garage), Bassline (also known as Speed Garage), and of course Dubstep (which fused two step Garage with Dub). Dubstep becomes a very popular scene in London towards the end of the decade, America picks up on this new trend, and makes Brostep, and the rest is history.

There is actually a new subgenre for Dubstep now (due to the distaste of Dubstep's popularity), that still features it's original Garage roots, called Future Garage. Artists such as SBTRKT and Burial are of this genre.

An interesting read. I think I'll go look into each of the genres mentioned and any of the Artists mentioned which I don't already listen to.

I can't believe it, and 42 degrees on Australia day?? Get out!
Oh my slight derailment.

Any chance that there's some decent dub step with nice lyrics at all? Not just remixes? That'd be nice.

how apropriate.....

hmmm well theres this


but its a remix

I enjoyed that. Thanks.

 

[Jazoni89]

In answer to your questions.

(New... fan, it's stretch, I have no problem with Dubstep but I prefer Drum and Bass) I know nothing of it's origins. I don't really care to, although I'd be keen to listen to original Dubstep, working on the assumption that I've not listened to it already unwittingly.

I didn't know it was called brostep.

Also, nice avatar.

Well, it's origins are quite simple really. Americans created a style of music in Gay Bars in 80's New York that we now call House. The House scene was getting huge popularity in the UK with the arrival of the Madchester scene which fused styles of House, with alternative Indie Rock. The House (and of course Madchester) scenes in the UK grew cold towards the mid 90's with closure of famous House clubs (such as The Haçienda), and the public shift towards Brit-Pop. The House fans needed a musical revolution, and a new genre appeared from the ashes of the 80's scene, UK Garage. UK Garage blended House with various genres such as Jungle, and included pitch shifted vocal samples, and beat skipping kick Drums. This new style of House had edge, and was immensely popular spawning acts like the So Solid Crew, Artful Dodger, The Streets, DJ Luck and MC Neat. It even managed to work it's way into the Mainstream with artists like Craig David, and Ms Dynamite. It was short lived however, as there was a huge musical shift in the mid Noughties, that caused UK Garage to be split into four sub genres all different from each other. Grime (which fused Garage with Chav esque Rapping), Uk Funky (that fused African and Latin percussion with Garage), Bassline (also known as Speed Garage), and of course Dubstep (which fused two step Garage with Dub). Dubstep becomes a very popular scene in London towards the end of the decade, America picks up on this new trend, and makes Brostep, and the rest is history.

There is actually a new subgenre for Dubstep now (due to the distaste of Dubstep's popularity), that still features it's original Garage roots, called Future Garage. Artists such as SBTRKT and Burial are of this genre.

An interesting read. I think I'll go look into each of the genres mentioned and any of the Artists mentioned which I don't already listen to.

If you have to Listen to anything, Listen to this.


The reason why, is that you can clearly hear the origins of Dubstep around the two minute mark.

If you wanted to know where Dubstep came from, it's right there. Keep in mind that this song out ages the Dubstep scene by a fair number of years, it's over ten years old.

 

[Finbark]

I was introduced to Dubstep, like a lot of people, through Sonny. My brother showed me "Father Said" and told me it was by Sonny Moore; I really had no clue he was better known as Skrillex until about two months later.
I was initially introduced because I was playing some Drum and Bass in the car and my brother told me I would like Dubstep, "Dub-what?" was my response.
Anywho, I don't understand the rabid hate for Skrillex. I suppose it's just people hating things that are popular. I tend to get angry when people express their dislike for Sonny because I really like him as a person. He stated that he doesn't care if people pirate his music, as long as it's getting listened to. I also respect his roots in Emo/Screamo music, even though I don't have a particular liking for From First to Last, I enjoy the genre as a whole.
I honestly couldn't care one way or the other about "original artists" or "new Dubstep" as I've become uninterested in the genre (except a few songs like "Turmoil" or "Father Said"). That's my two cents on this Dubstep dispute. Just wanted to get some things off my chest as I really don't get a chance to discuss these kinds of things with anyone.

 

[DJDarque]

Anywho, I don't understand the rabid hate for Skrillex. I suppose it's just people hating things that are popular.

Yeah, I kinda get that hipster vibe from the hate sometimes.

 

[Jazoni89]

Anywho, I don't understand the rabid hate for Skrillex. I suppose it's just people hating things that are popular.

Yeah, I kinda get that hipster vibe from the hate sometimes.

Skrillex is all Dub and less Garage, and that's the reason why he is hated. I like to call Skrillex Aggressive Dub (or Progressive Dub), rather than Dubstep, because it sure as hell doesn't deserve the step on the end, because there is none.

I personally don't care for him at all. His silly dub, cheesy samples, and the fact he is liked by a bunch of 13 year olds, doesn't go down well with me.

To be brutally honest, I think Dubstep should of stayed in England where it belongs, and just became a underground commodity like how it was years ago.

Call me a Hipster, or Xenophobic if you will, but it's how I feel about the whole thing.

 

[DJDarque]

Anywho, I don't understand the rabid hate for Skrillex. I suppose it's just people hating things that are popular.

Yeah, I kinda get that hipster vibe from the hate sometimes.

Skrillex is all Dub and less Garage, and that's the reason why he is hated.

I personally don't care for him at all. His silly dub, cheesy samples, and the fact he is liked by a bunch of 13 year olds, doesn't go down well with me.

I'll accept that answer. I despise a lot of the people (like on youtube) who go around saying something isn't dubstep because it isn't Skrillex.

 

[Lem0nade Inlay]

Eh, I can understand people getting annoyed when "their" music becomes popular.

I mean if I like a band that almost no one knows except me, it's kind of cool because it's like my special, personal, music which makes me feel different. Sure I'm happy to introduce friends into this band, but if they ever became insanely popular? As in, everyone knew about them and listened to them? That would piss me off.

I know that's stupid, and I don't know why I feel like that, but a lot of the time I do.

However when it comes to an entire genre? I think it's a bit different. I listened to lots of dubstep before Skrillex, but it's popularity hasn't shaken me too much. Aside from more people hating it...And in answer to your other question, I quite like Skrillex. Moreso than, say, an "original" dubstep artist like Datsik.

Skrillex is more complex and coming from someone who has studied music, his (original) compositions have far more depth and complexity than older, classic, dubstep songs.

PS. I'm sorry if that last sentance sounded incredibly pretentious, I'm not some progressive music critic extraordinaire; it's just something I've noticed.