Sony Admires Microsoft's Decision to Change Xbox One

[Tanis]

This feels more like a 'you're not as stupid as everyone thinks you are' kind of a 'compliment'.

 

[TheIceQueen]

Sony will have free reign to charge whatever they want?

Did you miss the the entire PS1&PS2 15-16 years of undisputed console dominance?

Even when they have the monopoly console game prices are kept in check by PC game prices and other things.

Nope, and actually the PSX almost failed in its first few years. Sega was still around back then and Nintendo also had consoles. So there was no undisputed dominance. PS2 era marked the failure of the Dreamcast and the rise of the Xbox, also Gamecube existed. So there was no monopoly for 15-16 years. Take off the nostalgia glasses.

The amount of PS2s sold in Japan alone is not even a million less than the total amount of the Gamecubes sold worldwide. The Xbox did better, but combing the sales of the Xbox and the Gamecube still don't even make up a third of the amount of total PS2s that have been sold. That's not a monopoly, which they didn't say it was, but that's definitely a console dominance right there.

 

[Mangod]

Atta boy, Sony! Keep rubbing the salt in that wound!

Honestly, I'm almost starting to feel bad for Microsoft.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

I'm not saying they will, I'm saying that people who root for Xbox and Nintendo to fail are short-sighted.

There are people who do that?

If they do exist, I imagine that there are so few of them, and they are so idiotic, that's not worth even mentioning them or giving them attention.

 

[ThunderCavalier]

So, what I read was:

"It's nice to know that Microsoft is actually going to try and go down with a fight rather than lie down and let us completely curbstomp them."

 

[Saltyk]

Once more Sony shows class when discussing their console. Geez, it's like night and day. Sony is maintaining a good degree of class. Confident, but not rude. Microsoft... should probably just stop trying to draw attention to their console. That would be better.

Oh, where's that guy that designed the PS4? I want more interviews with him. He was awesome.

I still think MS will be making money in the North America whereas sony will get European and Asian markets. Despite all that negative feedback xbone is getting we can't forget about that silent majority whose allegiance no one is able to determine not to mention the fact they can be easily swayed by marketing campaigns. And there is no reason to think MS or Sony will refrain from aggressive marketing strategies.

While I'm not counting Xbox One out in North America, I don't think it will have the unmitigated dominance that 360 had. Last time I asked what the preorders were looking like at my own local Gamestop, it was pretty much PS4 head and shoulders over the Xbox One. And I live in an area that has good internet access. So, that certainly wouldn't be a problem for people (keep in mind you need a Day One Patch to actually make it work).

My prediction is Microsoft will come out of this with a black eye, but may be able to turn it around in the coming years as long as they don't go back to being the "Deal with it" and "buy a 360 to play offline" jerks they were before. I'm sure Halo 5 will help, but I think most of the people buying the Xbox One are fanboys.

The higher price tag isn't helping, though.

 

[Infernal Lawyer]

So, what I read was:

"It's nice to know that Microsoft is actually going to try and go down with a fight rather than lie down and let us completely curbstomp them."

Pretty much. Still, it's probably better for PR than saying "Damn it guys, we were looking forward to dominating the market without you. Couldn't you have kept drinking the Kool-aid for a little longer?"

 

[Daaaah Whoosh]

Wait, did this article say that Sony is beating Microsoft in pretty much every place except the US? Because that sounds like a far better point in Sony's favor than this whole thing about calling Microsoft smart.

 

[Fox12]

Put it like this folks, if Microsoft does lose and stop making consoles, and Nintendo decides the US market is no longer profitable, you realize that there will be no more competition to drive down prices and Sony will have free reign to charge whatever they want? Unless for some reason the SteamBox thing is embraced by the non-core gaming society, which I doubt heavily.
Less competition though will mean more you'll pay and no incentive for Sony to care what you say.

I wouldn't put Steam down yet. I know a lot of non core gamers who use Steam, and it's on the rise. Valve knows which way the wind is blowing, and they've been able to not only adjust to the market, but actively shape it in a big way. I could see them being a dominant force in the future of gaming, if the play their cards right, which they always do.

 

[RicoADF]

Sony will have free reign to charge whatever they want?

Did you miss the the entire PS1&PS2 15-16 years of undisputed console dominance?

Even when they have the monopoly console game prices are kept in check by PC game prices and other things.

Nope, and actually the PSX almost failed in its first few years. Sega was still around back then and Nintendo also had consoles. So there was no undisputed dominance. PS2 era marked the failure of the Dreamcast and the rise of the Xbox, also Gamecube existed. So there was no monopoly for 15-16 years. Take off the nostalgia glasses.

I look forward to seeing the xbox fail, Nintendo I hope keeps doing well along with Sony and hopefully another new console will come along they always do.

Issue with the xbox is that it's literally everything that's wrong with America, the greed, selfishness, corporate values etc all rolled into one. I'm sick of Microsoft trying to force American 'values' (aka: do what I say or I'll take your games away, your nothing to us but walking wallets) onto other nations who have actual trading laws that protect the consumer. The xbox was trying to circumvent them by making your games tied to an account that's located in America and thus 'American' so your local laws wouldn't protect you. Stuff them.

They then wonder why Sony kicks their ass in Europe etc, Japanese business culture is far superior and more in line with the rest of the world.

Valve though seem to have their head on the right way, so hope to see them step up however honestly I would like to see a European company step in, can't recall there ever being a European one and it'd be nice to see what they would come up with.

OT: Nice of Sony to be civil about it, bet if it was the other way around Microsoft would kick them while they were down.

 

[Quantum Glass]

It's actually kind of depressing that Sony is being a better sport about this than virtually everyone else.

 

[VoidWanderer]

I only wish they said this at E3 instead of the self-glorification video they did. I just wish that Microsoft would have the same level of sportsmanship though....

 

[Psychobabble]

"Yoshida then went on to give a fakey cough that sounded suspiciously like 'losers'"

It's pretty easy to be the "big man" when your opponent is busy hopping around in pain after shooting themselves in the foot.

No, that's exactly when it's the hardest to be the big man. Considering that all of the ps4's preordered versions including the standard version are currently sold out, now would be an easy time to rub it in.

Consider this, the only XBO version to sell out is the XBO Day one edition and that version sold less than the PS4 launch day version. The XBO has only two versions, standard and day one. The PS4 had six versions. Launch, Standard, and four bundles (Knack, Killzone, Watchdogs, Battlefield 4). All six versions are currently sold out and four of their versions are in 2013's 100 top seller's in video games list for amazon. The standard XBO isn't even on that list and isn't sold out.

So Sony is truly handing it to Microsoft right now. Even if the XBO eventually reaches that list, it'd still have a long way to catch up to just one of the other versions. Not to mention that I now the Killzone bundle isn't far from that list. I'm not sure about the knack version. I think that one had the least bundles for sale.

What Sony is doing here isn't showing class. I mean, it is. But what we're seeing is a company that has a marketing/pr department that deserves a raise. Whoever bungled their launch for ps3 must have been let go and these new guys learned from the predecessor's mistake. I even saw a PS4 add that I liked. Even chuckled at it. The one with the robots where the other gamers showed up late to the carnage after the early birds had already cleaned up. I remember ps3 ads that were practically designed for no other purpose to give people nightmares. I distinctly remember a weird crying baby doll with a broken eye that reminded me of Toy Story's creepiest scene.

Fair enough. I agree it's a brilliant PR move, but I still disagree it in any way is a positive thing for Microsoft. As nice as they sound Sony are still twisting the knife in their competition. As if they see the Xbone as such a weak competitor they can afford to offer them sympathy and platitudes.

 

[Strazdas]

its easy to vaggle your dick in somones face once the man is dead. they competed. then they trolled. now they are kust taking the piss.

I still think MS will be making money in the North America whereas sony will get European and Asian markets. Despite all that negative feedback xbone is getting we can't forget about that silent majority whose allegiance no one is able to determine not to mention the fact they can be easily swayed by marketing campaigns. And there is no reason to think MS or Sony will refrain from aggressive marketing strategies.

except that we kinda can determine. judging by the largest seller - amazon - preorders for consoels software, even in USA sony dominates 3:1.
Ill let that sink in.
In Xbox home market, sony has sold 3 times more software. considering that most of them arent buying software without console (as that would be pointless) the thing is clearly decided now.

 

[Adultism]

Back at Microsoft:

Look at these wimps we are going to mow them down.

I give it to Sony though, their whole culture is based around honor so when someone of the EXcaliber says they admire you it means something more than just words. They like to hide their language with hidden meanings, super cool thoough.

 

[J Tyran]

I am happy there will be some competition at least too, both companies would treat their consumers like shit at the first opportunity like they have in the past. Sony learned to be a bit more humble after the poor start of the PS3, Microsoft will have to learn the same lesson. They are slowly getting it, they backed down on the policies that annoyed a lot of people and they have been stumbling after Sony and trying to improve XBL Golds value compared to PS+.

 

[Spygon]

Feels very like "we need people talking about the PS4 more but we havent got anything new to say about it at the moment" type of comments

 

[WeepingAngels]

Put it like this folks, if Microsoft does lose and stop making consoles, and Nintendo decides the US market is no longer profitable, you realize that there will be no more competition to drive down prices and Sony will have free reign to charge whatever they want? Unless for some reason the SteamBox thing is embraced by the non-core gaming society, which I doubt heavily.
Less competition though will mean more you'll pay and no incentive for Sony to care what you say.

Anyone who honestly believes that Microsoft failing in the console business and/or Nintendo pulling out would lead to less competition doesn't know much about the history of the console industry.

I'm not saying they will, I'm saying that people who root for Xbox and Nintendo to fail are short-sighted.

Well it's actually Microsoft and Nintendo or if you like, Xbox One and Wii U. Just a pet peeve, choose to group things as companies or products.

Anyway, after what Microsoft tried to pull I sort of want them to fail so that no one tries that again.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Sony will have free reign to charge whatever they want?

Did you miss the the entire PS1&PS2 15-16 years of undisputed console dominance?

Even when they have the monopoly console game prices are kept in check by PC game prices and other things.

Nope, and actually the PSX almost failed in its first few years. Sega was still around back then and Nintendo also had consoles. So there was no undisputed dominance. PS2 era marked the failure of the Dreamcast and the rise of the Xbox, also Gamecube existed. So there was no monopoly for 15-16 years. Take off the nostalgia glasses.

No monopoly but Sony certainly had dominance and what did they do? They charged $40 for games (if memory serves) while Nintendo went on charging $50 and beyond.

We aren't going to pretend that the N64 was really any competition for the Playstation are we?


If you know the story of the Dreamcast, you know that they killed it because of the dominance of the PS2 BEFORE it was even released. That is because the PS1 had such dominance for years prior and the PS2 was gearing up to be even more dominating. In other words, Sega knew they were better off making games for the PS2 than trying to compete with it, a lesson they learned from the dominance of the PS1.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Atta boy, Sony! Keep rubbing the salt in that wound!

Honestly, I'm almost starting to feel bad for Microsoft.

I read on this site a while ago that Sony said if the PS4 isnt successful then there will be no PS5 - now the PS4 will sell well - but then you know companies an their sales. Like a game selling 6mil can be seen as a failure for some strange reason. They are in debt still, especially their entertainment department. MS, on the other hand will do well enough for another console. Sony really shouldn't keep making jokes about MS because if they do end up quitting the hardware business, they are going to be embarrassed by the fallout of MS comments. But personally, i hope both companies sell enough to make a console for the next-next gen.....or they just both work together and co produce a console.