Sony Attempts to Block All Future PSN Class Action Lawsuits

BabyRaptor

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"hey, guess what? You have to ask us if we feel like being sued before you can think about your rights. And OF COURSE we won't always say no. Trust us!"
 

ph0b0s123

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The question is what happens if you don't want to accept their new T&C's. One paper weight console and now non playable games. So a change in conditions is nice after you have spent a large amount of money on the console and a pile of games. Kind of have you over a barrel....
 

Low Key

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Why does Sony act like dicks so often? Is it something in the coffee they drink in the morning?
 

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That's hilarious. Someone in Sony's legal department needs to be fired.

Not only would this never hold up in court, period, but it's blatantly insulting. In future suits it could cause the court in question to smack Sony with worse fines than it otherwise would have.
 

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If you didn't accept the new terms, would that mean you couldn't play online or you can't play any games at all?
 

Kopikatsu

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MadTinkerer said:
That's hilarious. Someone in Sony's legal department needs to be fired.

Not only would this never hold up in court, period, but it's blatantly insulting. In future suits it could cause the court in question to smack Sony with worse fines than it otherwise would have.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/scotus-rules-att-can-force-arbitration-block-class-action-suits.ars

Supreme Court says...! This is completely legal. Boo-freakin'-hoo.

Saucycardog said:
If you didn't accept the new terms, would that mean you couldn't play online or you can't play any games at all?
You just can't use PSN. You can still play games and junk.
 

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Anyone else up to threatening a class-action lawsuit against this blatantly illegal change of the terms and conditions to which we, the consumers, most definitely have not agreed upon? Even if its just for the sake of irony?
 

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Simalacrum said:
Anyone else up to threatening a class-action lawsuit against this blatantly illegal change of the terms and conditions to which we, the consumers, most definitely have not agreed upon? Even if its just for the sake of irony?
Allow me to repeat myself. This is legal.

Kopikatsu said:
The Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that AT&T?and indeed, any company?could block class-action suits arising from disputes with customers and instead force those customers into binding arbitration. The ruling reverses previous lower-court decisions that classified stipulations in AT&T's service contract which barred class arbitration as "unconscionable."
Source: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/scotus-rules-att-can-force-arbitration-block-class-action-suits.ars

Supreme Court says...! This is completely legal. Boo-freakin'-hoo.
 

Simalacrum

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Kopikatsu said:
Simalacrum said:
Anyone else up to threatening a class-action lawsuit against this blatantly illegal change of the terms and conditions to which we, the consumers, most definitely have not agreed upon? Even if its just for the sake of irony?
Allow me to repeat myself. This is legal.

Kopikatsu said:
The Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that AT&T?and indeed, any company?could block class-action suits arising from disputes with customers and instead force those customers into binding arbitration. The ruling reverses previous lower-court decisions that classified stipulations in AT&T's service contract which barred class arbitration as "unconscionable."
Source: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/scotus-rules-att-can-force-arbitration-block-class-action-suits.ars

Supreme Court says...! This is completely legal. Boo-freakin'-hoo.
Well in that case I would say that the Supreme Court is wrong. The law isn't something that should be blindly followed when it doesn't serve the interests of the people.
 

Kopikatsu

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Simalacrum said:
Kopikatsu said:
Simalacrum said:
Anyone else up to threatening a class-action lawsuit against this blatantly illegal change of the terms and conditions to which we, the consumers, most definitely have not agreed upon? Even if its just for the sake of irony?
Allow me to repeat myself. This is legal.

Kopikatsu said:
The Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that AT&T?and indeed, any company?could block class-action suits arising from disputes with customers and instead force those customers into binding arbitration. The ruling reverses previous lower-court decisions that classified stipulations in AT&T's service contract which barred class arbitration as "unconscionable."
Source: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/scotus-rules-att-can-force-arbitration-block-class-action-suits.ars

Supreme Court says...! This is completely legal. Boo-freakin'-hoo.
Well in that case I would say that the Supreme Court is wrong. The law isn't something that should be blindly followed when it doesn't serve the interests of the people.
You can say that the Supreme Court is wrong, but it doesn't really change the law any. Not really sure why everyone keeps saying this is illegal though. (Rhetorical statement.)
 

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Kopikatsu said:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/scotus-rules-att-can-force-arbitration-block-class-action-suits.ars

Supreme Court says...! This is completely legal. Boo-freakin'-hoo.
Ah, isn't that the case. In Europe, Sony was hit with government action in some countries over the PSN. In America, they go ahead and make life easier for them in the event that it should happen again.
 

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That's just stupid. There needs to be limits on what disclaimers and EULA type agreements can ask. This just gives them less incentive to do things properly and effectively. If that kind of nonsense can get passed, I'll have even less faith in the legal system than I already do.
 

snfonseka

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I wonder what kind of morons work in Sonys' legal department. I hope that some entity can sue Sony for this.
 

Atmos Duality

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Glad to see the consumer losing more and more legal protection with each passing month.
Just another day in the gaming industry I guess.

...Well well. It is legal after all. The original precedent from 2009 was overturned.

Bend over PS3 users. Sony essentially has legal invulnerability to your civil suits now, unless you have some obscene amount of scratch laying around to afford the legal fees.
They can just financially bleed you out in court if you don't go to arbitration (where you play by THEIR rules anyway), and then you'll be forced into a unilateral settlement anyway.