Sony Buys Gaikai Cloud Gaming Service
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Actually you are a little out a date, and not quite right either. Onlive guarantees the game will playable until a certain date, if there still enough players playing that game, they will extend the availability of the game.(This has not happen as no game has reached the limit yet)Crono1973 said:
There is no monthly fee on games you bought full licenses on. So you can play them whenever you want as long as their still available.
Monthly fee only pertains to the playpass system. If you are paying the monthly fee you have access to ALL GAMES that are in the playpass library. Stopping the playpass will only take away games from the library unless you bought a full license on a game, you will still have access to that game.
Rental Passes are available for 3 and 5 days, these only let you play the game for 3 or 5 days.
30 minute pass lets you play the game free of charge for 30 minutes, as many times as you like, but you start over from the beginning each time.
Onlive is FREE to have an account, so even if you don't want to pay anything, there is always the 30 minute pass if your eager to try out a game before you buy it, even if it is on another system.
And now there are five:
OnLive
Microsoft Cloud
GameStop SpawnLabs
Sony Gaikai
Steam Cloud
Clearing the Eye said:
Foolproof said:
...... Why do people not understand that their choices never are simply their own choices and that their choices effect everyone and every thing. Its cloud gaming... a technology that is not wanted or needed by consumers. Its another step in pushing digital distribution as a means to control their media beyond the levels of control they should have. So Sony buying a cloud service means they fully intend to not only use it but perpetuate it. Just because someone is gullible enough to like it or naive enough to be duped into thinking this is a good thing does not mean the damage done by one individual supporting a bad idea ends with them.
I mean last year when people were complaining about the potential of MW elite... the counterargument was the same.. If someone might like it, who does it hurt. Well.. Its hurt the entire industry and we see how now by Battlefield 3 premium service netting almost a million subscribers. Whats the next step? In 5 years will we see all major games have in game Real money transaction thanks to the fact people bought and accepted diablo 3?
TL;DR
Peoples decisions are never their own because the consequences of their decisions can potentially effect everyone.
EDIT: perhaps my response is biased, having just completed Deus Ex HR, but I am pretty sure I have made this argument before.
Not wanted by you. Don't speak from bias and argue with generalizations--you won't get far.viranimus said:
You've failed to demonstrate why Sony purchasing this company warrants further "hate" from you. Not only do you know nothing at all of their plans for the technology and the business, you've no idea if they are even taking over the group or simply purchasing it for profit. Cloud gaming is here, and so is physical media. The two exist together at the moment and Sony is another cog in that machine.
A little less conjecture, bias and rage. A lot less sensationalism and propaganda.
Yes I am fully aware that cloud gaming is here, and thats the entire point of the hate. This technology should not exist, yet, The fact is that a major corporation with the financial clout to strong arm it into viability is going to take a technology that offers no true benefit to the customer over any other alternative.
The two (physical/digital) might exist at the same moment, but that does not mean co-exist. The only thing that is making them exist at the same time is the resistance to digital distribution to which there is no where near enough of. Sony did not purchase a cloud based service in order to hold it as a trophy company. They bought it because they wish to utilize it because they view it as another tool in the forcible push of digital distribution on the gaming populous in order to better control and maximize profit. So No I have no interest in supporting that goal because it negatively effects me by spitting on legal rights and working around the concept of ownership.
No, It does not matter if it is speculation Its not idle speculation, its speculation based on proven history. Ive already illustrated its not sensationalism because the precedents speak for themselves. Its pretty hard to be propaganda when I am basically the only one reminding people that their negative choices effect me and others like me negatively. When every time I bring up something that requires an inkling of vision the whole "slippery slope! Slippery Slope!" chant comes out to try to tell me I am overreacting. I would think they might be right had I not had such a long history of calling these things accurately.
If anything there needs to be a great deal more life experience and a whole lot less idealism that wants to think the best of a situation, when there is no justification for it. Not speaking in resistance to it simply because "Its already here" is defeatist.
The two (physical/digital) might exist at the same moment, but that does not mean co-exist. The only thing that is making them exist at the same time is the resistance to digital distribution to which there is no where near enough of. Sony did not purchase a cloud based service in order to hold it as a trophy company. They bought it because they wish to utilize it because they view it as another tool in the forcible push of digital distribution on the gaming populous in order to better control and maximize profit. So No I have no interest in supporting that goal because it negatively effects me by spitting on legal rights and working around the concept of ownership.
No, It does not matter if it is speculation Its not idle speculation, its speculation based on proven history. Ive already illustrated its not sensationalism because the precedents speak for themselves. Its pretty hard to be propaganda when I am basically the only one reminding people that their negative choices effect me and others like me negatively. When every time I bring up something that requires an inkling of vision the whole "slippery slope! Slippery Slope!" chant comes out to try to tell me I am overreacting. I would think they might be right had I not had such a long history of calling these things accurately.
If anything there needs to be a great deal more life experience and a whole lot less idealism that wants to think the best of a situation, when there is no justification for it. Not speaking in resistance to it simply because "Its already here" is defeatist.
If it's an extension of a service or option for gamers: Fine.
If it's a core/required component of Sony's next gen system (assuming they even bother), well, it just mean a little bit more of the gaming market is going to Eternal Rental Hell.
Though given the agendas of the publishers and Big Three, in 20 years, I suspect that the concept of letting the gamer enjoy a title without having some corporate service looking over their shoulder will appear delightfully quaint.
If it's a core/required component of Sony's next gen system (assuming they even bother), well, it just mean a little bit more of the gaming market is going to Eternal Rental Hell.
Though given the agendas of the publishers and Big Three, in 20 years, I suspect that the concept of letting the gamer enjoy a title without having some corporate service looking over their shoulder will appear delightfully quaint.
That is patently false. You can exist on a decent 400USD PC for 3-5 years without needing an upgrade. I am sorry that youve gotten that wrong of an idea, but it is wrong.Foolproof said:
As for the precedent? It starts with the first online connected game and its been gradual increments ever since with notable ones such as Steams rise to prominence, DLC, PSPGO and many many many many other clear signs that the industry as a whole is determined to cram digital distribution down the publics throat come hell or high water, and its not even in question that they do this specifically out of greed.
As a tool for use with demos, indie games that were never going to see a physical release anyway and games a customer has access to via Sony's premium PSN subscription I see no issue with Gaikai becoming a part of Sony. But if this is used for core game titles as a replacement of hard copies, I'm not buying the system and even without empirical data I think I can safely say there are people who'd agree with me. Having said that, there isn't even a slight chance that Sony is going all digital with the next console, no one is quite dumb enought to think the world has the internet infrastructure required to run such a system. I'll still keep an eye on this though, it'd be a shame if it gets out of hand.