- Dec 19, 2010
Do you go out of your way to be abrasive? It's comparing like situations. You don't make excuses for other companies to do shitty things to their customers, that is my point. It's not troll logic, as you put it. You are the one trolling. You are sitting there championing a company that makes fantastic profits, even with all the second hand sales. And when a gamer mentions they aren't happy with something, you jump on them, raving about how Sony "NEEDS TO MAKE MONEY". Also, piracy entering the conversation is not a valid point. Pirates have not been able to play online, regardless of there being no passes. There have been a few situation where they were able to, but that lasted a few hours each time before Sony fixed it so they couldn't. As they should do.OutrageousEmu said:You just compared a ten dollar online pass to dumping chemicals in the river. What insane troll logic is this?Baresark said:sniprazer17 said:snipAdam Jensen said:sniprazer17 said:snip
Yes, Sony have to earn our money. They are doing this by making an awesome game, then charging you $60 for that. If you pay that money, you get this with the online pass free. Sony are very good to their customers.
People who buy the game secondhand, and people who pirate the game, however, are not Sony's customers by any remote definition. They are either thieves, or the customers of Gamestop. They do not give Sony any money, and so Sony really have no reason whatsoever to not treat them with anything but contempt.
Meanwhile, for Sony's customers, absolutely nothing has changed, and they're getting awesome games for the same price they always have.
People will always seek out that which they want and avoid that which they don't want. If they don't want to pay $60 for a game and the market offers them an alternative, then they have every right to take that alternative. And they are still Sony's customers because they at very least sell a software license, which is, in most situation, transferable. It's not a lost sale, it's just not a new sale. I almost never agree with the Jimquisition, but he made a fantastic point about about online slots. If you give your slot away, you are not using it, and someone else is, so why do they need a pass to pay for it.
Sony has every right to seek out maximum profit potential, but they do not have a right to do it at the expense of customers. Also, as so many people have pointed out, if something is pirated, or in this case, purchased second hand, that isn't a lost sale. Just because they were willing to spend money on it at a reduced cost, that doesn't mean they would buy a new copy if the alternative didn't exist. By the time the price drops naturally, most people and the company have long since stopped caring about it.