Sony Expected More Negativity For PSPgo

[LeonLethality]

I'm just glad they still give people the choice and that everybody doesnt have to upgrade because they would stop making umds so it will work for me

 

[Treblaine]

There's always the ridiculous people like my mate who will now sell their old psp with all it's games just to buy this game and rebuy the same bloody games >.>

I'm doing it, internal storage based gaming for handhelds is better than carting loads of cartridges or discs around. I've reseverved mine and am picking it up tomorrow, trading in all my games and my 300 model.

Foolio, you can download and play the same games as for the PSPgo as for your regular PSP-3000 or even the PSP-1000

16GB Pro-duo memory card: $40

http://www.mini-laptop-accessories.com/16gb-flash-card-sony-16gb-mark2-pro-duo-memory-stick-p-1673.html

or £28

http://www.mini-laptop-accessories.com/sony-mark2-16gb-memory-stick-pro-duo-ms-card-for-psp-p-1671.html

So you are paying $250 for a smaller screen, more cramped controls, no video output and basically throwing away your entire UMD collection and being forced to start again. Oh, but it's a bit lighter because the PSP-3000 was SOOOO HEAVY!

1) Completed all my games, so i don't really need them back straight away.
2) I don't use video output
3) PSPgo will be more compact than the 3000, so, for instance, It'll take up less space in my pocket so i can listen to music and use my high quality headphones. If I want to buy it. I will do.
4) I'm trading in my 3000, bunch of old games and all my UMDs, so I'll get a price reduction (although I'll ask if I can use my 3000 for that games offer. Probably just leave my phone so they know I'll come back)

1) but you will still pay for them again at full price after you've sold off / traded your UMD collection for most likely only 10% of the price you bought them.
2) You are still paying More for Less features
3) How small are your pockets? And you're right, you will buy it. Some people love the smell of burning money as long as it reaffirms their brand loyalty.
4) You know what's an even bigger price reduction... not getting the PSP-go at all. Act now, you still have time to cancel your pre-order and prevent making a huge mistake.

You don't HAVE to buy every new iteration of a console Sony releases.

1) I won't buy those games again, or get them with the free 3 games service, and I'm getting GT PSP for free when I register it.
2) Not that many less features
3) I'm loyal to most brands I buy from them. I just want a PSPgo, and not a PSP-3000
4) If I want to buy a PSPgo, I'll fucking get it. Explain how it's a mistake, because I don't really see what's wrong with buying something I want.

And you're right, because I didn't buy the 2000. This'll be my first new PSP, as my other 2 (my 1000 broke) have both been pre-owned. I want something that is genuinely mine.

Brand loyalty is for suckers.

Get the best or you're a chump.

PSP-go is NOT the best.

 

[Megacherv]

There's always the ridiculous people like my mate who will now sell their old psp with all it's games just to buy this game and rebuy the same bloody games >.>

I'm doing it, internal storage based gaming for handhelds is better than carting loads of cartridges or discs around. I've reseverved mine and am picking it up tomorrow, trading in all my games and my 300 model.

Foolio, you can download and play the same games as for the PSPgo as for your regular PSP-3000 or even the PSP-1000

16GB Pro-duo memory card: $40

http://www.mini-laptop-accessories.com/16gb-flash-card-sony-16gb-mark2-pro-duo-memory-stick-p-1673.html

or £28

http://www.mini-laptop-accessories.com/sony-mark2-16gb-memory-stick-pro-duo-ms-card-for-psp-p-1671.html

So you are paying $250 for a smaller screen, more cramped controls, no video output and basically throwing away your entire UMD collection and being forced to start again. Oh, but it's a bit lighter because the PSP-3000 was SOOOO HEAVY!

1) Completed all my games, so i don't really need them back straight away.
2) I don't use video output
3) PSPgo will be more compact than the 3000, so, for instance, It'll take up less space in my pocket so i can listen to music and use my high quality headphones. If I want to buy it. I will do.
4) I'm trading in my 3000, bunch of old games and all my UMDs, so I'll get a price reduction (although I'll ask if I can use my 3000 for that games offer. Probably just leave my phone so they know I'll come back)

1) but you will still pay for them again at full price after you've sold off / traded your UMD collection for most likely only 10% of the price you bought them.
2) You are still paying More for Less features
3) How small are your pockets? And you're right, you will buy it. Some people love the smell of burning money as long as it reaffirms their brand loyalty.
4) You know what's an even bigger price reduction... not getting the PSP-go at all. Act now, you still have time to cancel your pre-order and prevent making a huge mistake.

You don't HAVE to buy every new iteration of a console Sony releases.

1) I won't buy those games again, or get them with the free 3 games service, and I'm getting GT PSP for free when I register it.
2) Not that many less features
3) I'm loyal to most brands I buy from them. I just want a PSPgo, and not a PSP-3000
4) If I want to buy a PSPgo, I'll fucking get it. Explain how it's a mistake, because I don't really see what's wrong with buying something I want.

And you're right, because I didn't buy the 2000. This'll be my first new PSP, as my other 2 (my 1000 broke) have both been pre-owned. I want something that is genuinely mine.

Brand loyalty is for suckers.

Get the best or you're a chump.

PSP-go is NOT the best.

Tough shit, just bought it, and love it, and I'm selling my 3000 to my friend.

 

[MecaEcco]

Well this confirms that Sony is out of their minds. Good to know. People will see Sony's new product and upon rejection of that buy their old product and that is the function of the new product...to make the old one look better by comparison. Actually this whole debacle makes DS and Apple look good by comparison. Makes Sony look confused or stupid.

People are also forgetting that digital distribution will lead to less competition in the older games market because if PSN is your only outlet for getting games then there is no incentive for them to lower the price of older titles. For example I can go to Target right not and get the Joan of Arc SRPG for 13.95 USD or I can download it digitally (have it take up memory card space in the process) and pay 22.99 USD for the privilege. If we went straight to download we would lose store to store competition. Which is what Sony wants.

 

[Hitman 43]

Fan of the PS1, PS2 and the PS3, but not any type of PSP.

But with a few simple mods you can play your entire PS1 library on the go with the PSP 1000 or 2000!

That's why I love mine .

True perhaps, but I'd much rather play them at home the way they were ment to be. At home comfortably, seated on a comfortable sofa or arm chair, viewed on a nice big screen instead of a small screen outside in the cold. And if I want entertainment outside I could listen to a bit of music.

 

[Ankhwatcher]

Read: Nobody was buying that POC anyway, so if we don't even have to stock it's sub-par over-priced games; all the better.

FIVE.
MILLION.
PSPS.
SOLD.
for the love of my deceased ability to swear like a sailor how is that a failure?! it's games are not over price! They are not Subpar! My god I find it difficult to articulate in words I'm allowed to use exactly how much rage your making me feel. but here's an attempt.

I hate you right now more than I hate Twilight.

EIGHT.
MILLION.
NOKIA 5800S.
SOLD.
BFD.
That's right kids that unpopular games console your stalwartly defending has sold less handsets in its 4 and a half years of world-wide release than my phone has sold in 9 months.
And that is a relatively unpopular phone, benefitting for little-or-no hype and almost immediate replacement with superior hardware from Nokia.
Although if you would prefer I compare it to say another handheld games console... well you just say the word.

 

[-Seraph-]

Read: Nobody was buying that POC anyway, so if we don't even have to stock it's sub-par over-priced games; all the better.

FIVE.
MILLION.
PSPS.
SOLD.
for the love of my deceased ability to swear like a sailor how is that a failure?! it's games are not over price! They are not Subpar! My god I find it difficult to articulate in words I'm allowed to use exactly how much rage your making me feel. but here's an attempt.

I hate you right now more than I hate Twilight.

EIGHT.
MILLION.
NOKIA 5800S.
SOLD.
BFD.
That's right kids that unpopular games console your stalwartly defending has sold less handsets in its 4 and a half years of world-wide release than my phone has sold in 9 months.
And that is a relatively unpopular phone, benefitting for little-or-no hype and almost immediate replacement with superior hardware from Nokia.
Although if you would prefer I compare it to say another handheld games console... well you just say the word.

It's actually sold over 50 million, that was simply a typing error on Omni's part I assume. The system has sold more than the PS3 and 360 combined, which is one hell of an accomplishment for a competing hand held. Sure it's only sold half as much as the DS but seriously, second place in the hand held market with THAT many sales is pretty damn good compared to other hand helds that have gone up against nintendo. Nintendo will always be numero uno in the hand held maket, but it is actually nice to have some decent competition for once and some choice. 50 million is nothing to scoff at seeing as it's sold as much as the friggen Wii.

 

[AceDiamond]

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Technically this reflects poorly on both of you, since you spent 2 posts crowing a figure that was hilariously low and neither of you looked it up beforehand.

Anyway this sales number argument is silly. Because every single game boy model and DS model (aside from the DSi which is at roughly 10 million in its first year) has still sold more than the PSP. Now don't get me wrong, Sony managing to take a poorly-designed (in my opinion) handheld and use it to hold onto 1/3 of all handheld sales in this current handheld genearation is impressive, and it's certainly better than the last real competitor Nintendo had (Sega Game Gear: 11 Million in sales as opposed to the GB/GBC's 100+ Million). Then again we also have to consider the market was a lot smaller back then. I won't do anything like extrapolate figures just to say "well the Game Gear did as well as the PSP if you look at the ratio", because honestly I don't know.

The point is that we shouldn't be using sales figures because that number is not indicitive of quality. Case in point, Transformers 2 is a shitty movie with a ridicuously high box office take. I'm not saying the PSP is flashy but lacking in true substance or anything, I'm just saying running around and only waving sales figures up in the air isn't the greatest of strategies.

Consider this. The PSPGo is designed for people who don't have one yet, right? Well I would just like someone to explain to me why a person who doesn't own a PSP yet would buy the Go given the Go is almost twice as much as a model 3000 PSP. It doesn't really make a lot of sense to me unless people might flock to it because it's new. But new does not automatically mean better. It also doesn't make sense to me to design something to get the fans you don't have yet, and might not get, while at the same time alienating the fans you do have. Even though Sony has said from the start they were not going to get rid of the PSP-3000, I have seen people become greatly divided over the PSPGo. The fact that the analog nub still exists probably doesn't help things either. I honestly feel they could've come up with at least a decent redesign for that. Anyway my point is that yes, I am most likely not the target market for the PSP because of my feelings about Sony. But I will say this, were I so inclined to buy a PSP I would not be getting the PSPGo. I've read Kotaku's review [http://kotaku.com/5369359/pspgo-review-a-peek-into-the-future-of-gaming], and I am actually surprised to find out that Sony has not done a lot to improve the PSP's major design problems, battery life, for example. In fact they've somehow made the battery problem worse by housing it in an area where you have to void your warranty just to replace the thing.

I'm not saying everything about it is horrible, but I really don't think it's that great either. I think it's a mistake to push aside an install base of nearly 60 million PSP users, and I really think Sony should have focused on addressing as many problems of the previous versions of the PSP as they could instead of just moving stuff around and switching to an all-digital format

 

[AceDiamond]

Ace the thing is I don't like the Go at ALL. I agree with you that it's a bad upgrade and a bad 'newcomer' device. I brought a 3000 rather than wait for a Go I should know! My problem with chuckle head was his idea that it's games were over priced and the hand held was not being brought by anyone.

I was aware of that but I also wanted to contribute more to the thread besides me making a Death Note joke, the sales figure squabble just offered me an in of sorts.

 

[Ankhwatcher]

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I honestly don't give a rats ass what the PSP's sales figures are. That was the point of my reply to Omni's fanboy-ist rant. But hey, thanks for playing.

Seriously though the PSP has always struck me as a console permanently stuck in the position the Gamecube was in for the last couple of years before the Wii launched.
You know, with its store display-space steadily shrinking, with less and less developers bothering with it and a few die-hard fans desperately trying to convince people it's still cool.
Now I was one of those dolts; and Omni, the sooner you wake up and smell the fail, the better.

 

[Ankhwatcher]

Yeah I made a mistake and Seraph is actually right. So about your license as a man should I revoke it now or just wait until you make a complete fool of yourself.

My license as a man?
I want to cut you down for being the PSP fan who can't correctly quote statistics for PSP sales when he's trying to make it sound relevant, but honestly all I can think about is this 'license as a man'.
When was I issued one? Is Sony somehow responsible for it? What is its relation to useless sales statistics? When do I have to renew it? If I forget to renew it, do I get a ticket? Can I put off renewing it, and be a chic for a day? Would my girlfiend still have sex with me if I was a chic?
So many questions!

 

[Amnestic]

Would my girlfiend still have sex with me if I was a chic?

And would it be totally hot if she did?

[sub]Yes.[/sub]

 

[theultimateend]

Fan of the PS1, PS2 and the PS3, but not any type of PSP.

But with a few simple mods you can play your entire PS1 library on the go with the PSP 1000 or 2000!

That's why I love mine .

True perhaps, but I'd much rather play them at home the way they were ment to be. At home comfortably, seated on a comfortable sofa or arm chair, viewed on a nice big screen instead of a small screen outside in the cold. And if I want entertainment outside I could listen to a bit of music.

I can't recall the last time I was playing the PSP outside when it was cold.

But I get your point. Just wanted to defend the little guy .

 

[MecaEcco]

I don't know what is more amazing, that CEO's can tell such convoluted lies or that a respected publication like Escapist would swallow them with no critical consideration.

I think they were critical...especially at the end

 

[Lyri]

[blockquote]Especially if they're part of a family - dad might buy the PSPgo but the kids might get PSP 3000s. I think that works quite well for us.[/blockquote]

I hope they're talking about imagination.

I do not see that as a regular occuring family scenario, infact hands up if this shit has happened to you?

 

[ninjajoeman]

damn they are optimistic!

 

[VicunaBlue]

The Psp-go would be great if it HAD A SECOND DAMN ANALOGUE STICK!