Yeah, you're right. Didn't think my post through enough. Sony would still be in a vastly superior position if they found nothing was accessed. Would have just involved some PSN downtime easily justified by saying they want to preemptively buff their security to protect their customers.JDKJ said:
Communist partisan said:
Think you'll find the Nelson Muntz cosplay section down the hall and to your right folks. Please take the "Ha ha!" elsewhere for now. Thank you for your time ^_-slimeonline said:
Not knowing who these people are, I guess I would assume anything else was considered collateral damage by the hackers, right? A specified attack for a specific purpose that affected a broad array of services, which to me seems like what they might want to accomplish, or at least what any attacker (or terrorist, which is more like what these guys are) would consider a succesful operation. Affect multiple targets using minimal resources. Of course I don't think it is necessarily right or fair, but I doubt they took Qriocity or publishers into consideration. I guess they could also argue that anybody doing business with Sony is an acceptable target.JDKJ said:
Not if you look at the situation in the same way as did Anonymous (not to suggest they're in any way involved with anything more than a DDoS). They acknowledged that the collateral consequences of their DDoS attack on Sony (i.e., the damage to the consuming public) was undermining their own efforts to make whatever political statement they were trying to make. The more innocent victims that become collateral damage to a terrorist attack, is, I assume, the more unlikely that the terrorists will garner public support to their cause. Besides, collateral victims tend to make a terrorist organization look like bungling idiots who can't manage to take out their intended target without also taking out everyone else within a ten block radius.chronobreak said:
Yeah, that was somewhat my point. These hackers have never really shown us their true "intent", anything else is just presumption, and considering that they've stolen millions of people's data, along with causing various developers/publishers to feel the burn as well, somehow I doubt this was an altruistic attack...Ultratwinkie said:
Yeah, that's how it appears. I think Hacking Sony has become a sort of in joke among hackers...Fiz_The_Toaster said:
There is nothing justified in this. There is robbing a bank for what is in the teller drawers, and then there is robbing the bank for what is in the safety deposit boxes. The first doesn't hurt the customers at all(except for a small pinch from each taxpayer to reimburse the FDIC), the second doesn't hurt the bank but steals from the customers. The latter is what is going on here and these people need to be found and put in jail. Dragged in the streets first and then thrown in the lockup.HankMan said:
Considering these attacks are on completely different servers and are targeting different things than before, it is fallacy to expect Sony to be on top of this. If there is one thing that should be taken seriously, it is the fact that these hackers are getting away with too much shit that is only hurting regular people like you or me. Where the hell are the federal governments on this? Where are the laws that will actually put hackers behind bars for a decent amount of time? This is going on because these dipshits know they can get away with it. Not just because they are hard to find, but because when they do get caught they will only get a slap on the wrist.Firehound said:
I dunno 'bout that "slap on the wrist" you claim. The federal wire fraud statute (which covers cyber-crimes) carries a maximum prison sentence of 20 years on each count. Albert Gonzalez, the guy who masterminded the TJ Maxx hack, got a 20 year federal prison sentence. That's no "slap on the wrist." Plus, as part of his plea agreement, he had to forfeit a Miami condo, a BMW 330i, a Tiffany diamond ring, three Rolex watches, and more than $1.65 million in cash.samsonguy920 said:
Ah ha, except you know WHY Sony got rid of those other features? If you gues cluckeh the chicken, then I'd giggle. If your second guess was GeoHot then I owe you a bazaar full of health potions. He was using thos features to break into the PS3 in the first place, Sony got nervous and didn't want this kind of thing to happen so they removed it. Then this whole back and forth debacle happened and now hackers are after Sony for what GeoHot provoked them to do. Yet no one is mad at GeoNeo. And some people wondered why I wanted him sued to the moon.HankMan said:
Doesn't microsoft actively ban people for modding their systems?HankMan said:
I liken this response to a child ranting about how NASA can't do something easy like land a Mars Probe without issues.Firehound said:
I can say with absolute certainty that it is not Frank Sinatra.JDKJ said:
"But sony is a big evil corporation that must be stopped from bringing happiness, entertainment and joy to people who like games and other devices that sony makes. Just and only because I do not like their ecil corporate ideals of greed... (Can't come up with any other). I don't care what others think or fell - let alone do I get them in to problems - because I am right with my ideals and you are always wrong."RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Like how Sony changed is TOSA and EULA to take away a function they used to sell the product, then bricked your system if you tried to do it anyways?RedEyesBlackGamer said:
