Soooo... The Engineer Update (For TF2)

Erana

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Cheveyo said:
Hightower is far too short of a map. First time in there, my team won in under 60 seconds.
On 32 player servers, that map is going to turn into a huge clusterfuck.

I got all 3 unlocks already, myself. Got the last 2 achievements I needed for the 3rd one while running around the enemy base. Taunt killed one guy who had gone AFK near his spawn. Then ran while two chased me, killed them both and taunted so I could get the achievement for the kill screen.

The Frontier Justice(new shotgun) is nice when combined with the Gunslinger(melee). Drop a sentry in a bush then walk away, but stay close enough to refill its ammo should it run out. You'll get a few kills with it before someone destroys it, then you can run in with the new shotty and own face with crits.

The Wrangler is going to piss people off. People ***** about snipers, well now Engineers can snipe, too.

There is a bug with the Gunslinger sentry, though.
You can get a level 3 sentry instead of just the level one that you're supposed to get.

Once that gets fixed, I can see the Wrangler getting nerfed.
Hightower needs more walls- its a neat layout, but being able to see 70% of the map from right outside of the spawn point doors is just asking for cheap kills.
The Wrangler needs a drop-off of some sort; I haven't used it myself so I don't know the ammo details, but I'd agree that it's a bit over powered.
 

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I got the Gunslinger (three achievements away from the Wrangler). I thought it was gonna replace the pistol. I was wrong, but still they new weapons seem to cater to more of an offensive engineer.

The new moving feature is pretty freaking sweet. If I'm on Defense of Offense I can quickly build a level 3 sentry with the comfort and ease of not having to worry about scrounging enough metal in the field. And then slap down a level 3 and then have 200 metal to spare. But Gunslinger is hilarious, punching my sentry to upgrade it. YEAH!
 

hazabaza1

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I think I'm going to enjoy playing as spy for a few days.

Also, can the Gunslinger put down dispensers and the such? Or is it just a mini-sentry?
 

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I'm loving it so far, 1 achievement away from my second milestone. And having all the golden wrench's gone is nice too, makes me feel like I have to craft less.
 

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Looking forward to things dying down. Sick of hearing stuff about engineers :| I just hope these new 'combat engies' will remember the teleports which are more important then kill/death ratios u___u
Roll on Medic update please!
 

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It's cool having the update and all... but with so many engineers on each team every map turns into a deadlock where neither team can get past the others sentrys
 

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I don't like it....THEY KILLED THE SANDVICH HOOVY! Valve can go fuck itself in the ass for what they've done....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vio6ZkvFkeg&playnext_from=TL&videos=NJW5st7oeIc&feature=sub
 

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I've got all three new weps now and I love them all. Mini sentry is the cutest thing ever. And be able to aim you sentry some you can hit people out of the sentries normal range is very helpful. And the shotgun is great for getting revenge.... muhhahaha!!!
 

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I do find all the engineers really annoying, but on another point:

People shouldn't get annoyed at valve for providing loads of content for free, (hats, class updates, maps)that's great customer service and shows they are dedicated to the fanbase.

Compare this to, for example, Modern Warfare 2 map packs, where players are expected to shell out around £15 for 3 maps and nothing more, no new weapons, no skins/character models, etc.

People complain that valve are bastards and ruining the game but what other company gives you this much for free?
 

Ekit

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I haven't played yet, but so far I'm a bit disappointed that there were no dispenser unlocks.
 

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Meatfish said:
People complain that valve are bastards and ruining the game but what other company gives you this much for free?
Quality over quantity.

Just because they change and add loads of stuff doesn't mean it's good.
 

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Why is everyone complaining about the wrangler? If your using it, it leaves you open, if you get killed, then the sentry goes offline for 3 sec, which is all your teammates need. it actually makes the spy's job a lot easier.
Quiet Stranger said:
I don't like it....THEY KILLED THE SANDVICH HOOVY! Valve can go fuck itself in the ass for what they've done....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vio6ZkvFkeg&playnext_from=TL&videos=NJW5st7oeIc&feature=sub
How is this bad? That they balanced the game play more? Isn't that what team fortress 2 is famed for?
 

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My first thought is that it makes the game nigh unplayable the first couple of days. Next..

I have the Frontier Justice, the Southern Justice and the Gunslinger so far, and I don't really care for any of them. FJ lacks the ammo I've come to rely on when defending myself, the southern justice is an overall downgrade (so you make them bleed, big whoop) and the gunslinger.. I dunno, the mini sentry is far too fragile to be worth much to me, and I've learned to blow through them as all the classes with relatively little loss of health. The wrangler seems slightly overpowered in regards to the shield and double firepower, which means that a level 2 sentry can breeze through a heavy where it would most likely go down before. It also enables engineer sniping, which is stupid.

I like the new update, though. I like the new achievements, the look and feel of the new weapons, and while I am sick and tired of the people exploiting to get a lvl 3 mini sentry I think it'll ultimately end up being a good addition to the game. Mainly, I think people will get bored with the unlocks within two weeks, and stuff like the mini sentry will go the way of the Scottish Resistance.
 

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Stoic raptor said:
How is this bad? That they balanced the game play more? Isn't that what team fortress 2 is famed for?
Sandvich heavys were not overpowered, they were peaceful creatures just attempting to picnic and nom happily whilst the lesser unhatted folk squabbled around them.

Valve have cancelled all picnics from now on with this update, effectively killing off the endangered species that is the Sandvich heavy. Fuck knows how they plan to eradicate spy crabs, but lord knows it won't be pretty.

Cruel, heartless bastards Valve be...
 

Stoic raptor

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D4zZ said:
Stoic raptor said:
How is this bad? That they balanced the game play more? Isn't that what team fortress 2 is famed for?
Sandvich heavys were not overpowered, they were peaceful creatures just attempting to picnic and nom happily whilst the lesser unhatted folk squabbled around them.

Valve have cancelled all picnics from now on with this update, effectively killing off the endangered species that is the Sandvich heavy. Fuck knows how they plan to eradicate spy crabs, but lord knows it won't be pretty.

Cruel, heartless bastards Valve be...
Cant they just adjust the rate of the sandvich? Arent servers allowed to do that?