Souls- Do we have them?

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Skeleon

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Nah, I don't believe in souls as a spiritiual essence or entity.
You could consider aspects of your consciousness as a soul if you really wanted to, but that'd die off with the rest of your brain.

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PlasticPorter said:
I dont know if i made this idea clear or not but it is very interesting, no?
I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, but...
I'd guess it's similar to having electric stimulation on your arm or leg or whatever. Your muscles are moving but you are aware that you did not consciously move them.
 

Sneaky Paladin

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Your brain is pretty much your soul. It's your moral compass it decides for you. So if your soul was anything besides the stereotypical soul it would be your brain.
 

goatzilla8463

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A soul is what is meant to control you when you come to a moral dilema right?

Well then, I have no soul.

Either that or my soul is that evil little white cat I call an 'avatar'.
 

manaman

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No

In fact the thing most people think of as a soul the insubstantial and immaterial, but immortal component of a person that is supposed to transcend death is a Greek invention.

The biblical words most often translated as soul are nephesh and psuche. Both are used to describe a kind of animal base life that everything possesses. The spirit that all life contains, the kinda thing you would expect to pop up in what are now considered pagen rituals, or a part of Native American lore. These two words are used about 850 times in the bible, but are only translated half the time as the world soul. Nephesh being Hebrew and psuche being Greek and both words meaning the same thing.

Mostly this happened because the translators of the bible had a large set of words in the English language, and due to the meddling of St. Augustine who mingled what was basically Greek philosophy with Christianity, they used different words to denote when the originals applied to animals and to man.

The word body, and the world animal itself are at times used as translations, along with spirit, life, essence, and about 30 or so more words.

English: Soul; Hebrew: Nephesh; Greek: Psuche; Latin: Anima

This all makes more sense if you have studied the bible like I have but trust me. The immortal soul is not a product of the bible.

Oh and while I am at it, Hell, eternal damnation, etc. Also not a true product of the bible. The punishment laid out is for the spirit to return to the dust it came from. Only the followers who reached enlightenment and discerned the truth for themselves would be spared the death of their spirit. A far cry from the "only religion that offers a true path to salvation with out a cost" that many Christians like to tout around.

Not to rag to much on Christianity as religions come it is one of the more harmless, these days anyway, and if you do not count Catholicism as well.
 

traceur_

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I am properly open minded therefore I require evidence for the existence of a soul, no evidence has ever been presented therefore I do not believe in the idea of a soul. Plus it's kinda retarded.
 

mangus

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I would prefer to refer to it as sentience. And even then, we don't always have it...
 

Oldmanwillow

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I do not believe in a soul because we as people are nothing more then the sum of all our experiences. our memorys make up our conscious and that is what makes us the people we are today. our existence is based off of two separate parts matter and conscious. To believe in something with out proof and say your reason is you cant disprove is a mockery to human reasoning (which is the only thing that makes us different/better than the rest of the animal kingdom).

I herd this quote from ayn rand and it sums up my view on death quite well. I dont die my world comes to an end.
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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oliveira8 said:
I bought mine on Amazon...they were having a sale.

Really cheap!

Edit: I think its second hand but who cares...
So your the one who bought my soul? Hows it working out for you? but yeah, i pretty much defiled it when it was mine so your going to hell. Sucks to be you
 

GloatingSwine

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No-one can even arrive at a coherent definition of what the soul is, let alone a test to actually find out whether it exists.
 

Arrers

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Cliff_m85 said:
No point to even think of souls unless evidence is presented. Until then it goes in the "No" pile.
I always thought looking for evidence was missing the point in questions such as this. For me, it would be piontless if there was evidence, because it changes from faith to just knowing somthing is there.
 

James Cassidy

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ThrobbingEgo said:
If we're the one's asking for evidence, how are we foolish? If there's no reason to believe in something, how's that the wise thing to do?

Funnily enough, these are the same people who, when presented evidence of evolution suddenly become all skeptical.
Foolish is not asking for evidence, but in asking for physical evidence to something that isn't physical or asking for evidence to something human could not understand in the first place.

And you are right that even if evidence was given many still remain skeptical. So the question truly is, if evidence could be shown....would you believe it anyway?

If god came down right now and talked to everyone face to face (in a manner of speaking), would you believe it is him/her/it? I bet all the Atheist would be shitting themselves or they wouldn't believe it until they went to hell.

To say that something doesn't exist because of no evidence has been found does not mean it doesn't exist. Ghost have been proven, but people are still skeptics.

How many things is our government hiding from the people?

Do you honestly think that after billions of years of the universe expanding that we are the only living things on one planet?

If you cannot prove or disprove something then the answer to its existence has no answer. The foolish one automatically makes it false because there is no evidence to prove it.

No one can prove or disprove god exists no matter what logic you use. Souls are the same way. This is what most people don't get and what makes people have a closed mind to things that go beyond their own comprehensions.

Put it this way, there are some things that humans are not supposed to know. Things that could, in theory, makes us think ourselves to death. In a way, we would think about probable cause so much that our brain would completely ignore the functions to breathe and keep a heart beat.

I can't tell you what there is because no one knows what it is, but what I do know is that something is there and the signs are everywhere. You just have to open your mind to the evidence that is given.

Even if you are wrong, you can take a step in the right direction.

As to evolution, I believe in it as things do change, but I also believe in creationism. For example, in order for something to change you have to have a form to change from which means that something had to be created from scratch. It's like a cooking recipe. You can't create a pie from nothing, but you can't evolve from one thing to another without the first step or skipping steps in between.

So I am going into the middle ground.
 

oliveira8

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EMFCRACKSHOT said:
oliveira8 said:
I bought mine on Amazon...they were having a sale.

Really cheap!

Edit: I think its second hand but who cares...
So your the one who bought my soul? Hows it working out for you? but yeah, i pretty much defiled it when it was mine so your going to hell. Sucks to be you
Noes. My soul is from some guy in Italy...I know that cause sometimes I curse in Italian.
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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oliveira8 said:
EMFCRACKSHOT said:
oliveira8 said:
I bought mine on Amazon...they were having a sale.

Really cheap!

Edit: I think its second hand but who cares...
So your the one who bought my soul? Hows it working out for you? but yeah, i pretty much defiled it when it was mine so your going to hell. Sucks to be you
Noes. My soul is from some guy in Italy...I know that cause sometimes I curse in Italian.
Then who has mine? i want it back, i misses it ;-;
 

the1ultimate

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Anyone with a passion has soul. People leave impressions of themselves in the world, but that's probably not the soul being discussed here.

When you die, there is no more time, even for cake, for you the cake is over. You will have reached the end of cake.

If life is change, what is death?
Only a different kind of change.
 

Nmil-ek

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Soul has more than one defenition last time I checked, In the biblical immortal essance of my existance that shall go and live forver, blah no I think thats alot of garbled nonsense. If we mean soul as a way of attributing creativity, emotion, morality other subconcious impulses then yes.
 

Redlac

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Yes, I believe the soul exists. Probably not in the way we think it does though.