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blackrave

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Yeah, maybe I overreacted (but do not dare to touch our planets poles)
Anyway private corporations would achieve space mining at more efficient costs

SpAc3man said:
We must make a giant red mining ship called "Red Dwarf". There must always be somebody called "Lister" on the ship at any one time. There will also be a ship cat. Every Friday the crew will be served curry and lager.
I'm not sure I know what you are talking about.
Maybe you could explain please
 

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blackrave said:
SpAc3man said:
We must make a giant red mining ship called "Red Dwarf". There must always be somebody called "Lister" on the ship at any one time. There will also be a ship cat. Every Friday the crew will be served curry and lager.
I'm not sure I know what you are talking about.
Maybe you could explain please
Red Dwarf is the greatest space comedy of all time.
Named for the mining ship in the show.


The guy with the teeth is an evolved cat.
 

BodomBeachChild

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Nooo, mining drones are useless until tech II though! (still kinda useless)
Now, can we have real life Hulkageddons then?
 

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Wakikifudge said:
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albino boo said:
This brings me on to my second point. Which is cheaper recycling minerals already extracted, or lunching robots travailing at 25000 mph, moving 1/2 million miles, mining a 2 ton asteroid, repeat until you have a few tons, then launching5 tons of iron back at Earth and losing 2/3 of mass on rentry. This isn't hydrocarbons we are talking about here its basic elements. The reason why iron is more common than than gold is due the laws of physics, the heaver the element the less of it of created by fusion in stars or by super novas. Yes there are vast quantities of minerals out there but they are going to be in roughly the same distribution you find on Earth. In other words you going to find vastly more iron than you are gold. Even at todays prices iron ore is dirt cheap. Even if you do find a 20 ton lump of pure gold, what do think that's going to do the price of gold? The markets can respond quicker than you can get the gold on the ground. The more you find the less its worth.
We aren't talking about iron or gold, though. We're talking about nickel and phosphorous and argon and tritium and a bunch of other stuff that is heading towards limited supply.

There was a great article I read not too long ago about some of the elements we use for electronics that is running desperately low but is found in great abundance in asteroids, if only I could find it.
Ya they aren't really concerned about iron or gold. They are more concerned about water and then various platinum metals that can ONLY be found in asteroids.
Water? Running low? You mean that wet stuff that covers most of our planet? o_O

Don't mean to sound stupid, but how on earth is that running low...surely if worse comes to worse they could just purify seawater, removing the salt and making it safe to drink? :S
 

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arc1991 said:
Wakikifudge said:
chadachada123 said:
albino boo said:
This brings me on to my second point. Which is cheaper recycling minerals already extracted, or lunching robots travailing at 25000 mph, moving 1/2 million miles, mining a 2 ton asteroid, repeat until you have a few tons, then launching5 tons of iron back at Earth and losing 2/3 of mass on rentry. This isn't hydrocarbons we are talking about here its basic elements. The reason why iron is more common than than gold is due the laws of physics, the heaver the element the less of it of created by fusion in stars or by super novas. Yes there are vast quantities of minerals out there but they are going to be in roughly the same distribution you find on Earth. In other words you going to find vastly more iron than you are gold. Even at todays prices iron ore is dirt cheap. Even if you do find a 20 ton lump of pure gold, what do think that's going to do the price of gold? The markets can respond quicker than you can get the gold on the ground. The more you find the less its worth.
We aren't talking about iron or gold, though. We're talking about nickel and phosphorous and argon and tritium and a bunch of other stuff that is heading towards limited supply.

There was a great article I read not too long ago about some of the elements we use for electronics that is running desperately low but is found in great abundance in asteroids, if only I could find it.
Ya they aren't really concerned about iron or gold. They are more concerned about water and then various platinum metals that can ONLY be found in asteroids.
Water? Running low? You mean that wet stuff that covers most of our planet? o_O

Don't mean to sound stupid, but how on earth is that running low...surely if worse comes to worse they could just purify seawater, removing the salt and making it safe to drink? :S
I never said we were running low but they plan on collecting this water and keeping it in space to save on the costs of having to launch it from Earth. Here's a link that goes a bit more in depth than the one provided and which gives a couple paragraphs to the possible uses of space water: http://news.yahoo.com/asteroid-mining-venture-backed-google-execs-james-cameron-011205183.html
 

RatRace123

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Please let them find something which would then justify the massive expense that it would take for humans to start an extra terrestrial colonization effort.

I really don't want to live on this planet anymore, but only because I find it boring.
 

Comando96

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FUCK YEAH!

Oh good, and I thought we were going to rot and die on this rock, but it appears we aren't as fucked as I once thought.

If we're starting exploration in a few years time then a full mining operation or even colony could be 20-50 years away.

Once we've dug up most of Brazil and Australia then thats it, we need other sources of metals (the ocean may be a better starting point).
 

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This could be a wildly inaccurate assumption that I'm sure someone will enjoy pointing out, but if we start bringing tons and tons of stuff back to Earth from other planets, isn't that eventually going to affect the mass of our planet, which in turn will alter our (and other nearby planets') orbit and rotation...?
 

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SpAc3man said:
We must make a giant red mining ship called "Red Dwarf". There must always be somebody called "Lister" on the ship at any one time. There will also be a ship cat. Every Friday the crew will be served curry and lager.
You obviously had the same thought as me. As soon as I saw this article, I went straight to Netflix to watch Red Dwarf :D
 

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juyunseen said:
This is all well and good, but when are we finally gonna figure out how to build a safe space elevator?
Bout the time we get carbon nanotubes perfected. The main problem right now is that we don't have anything capable of withstanding the stresses that such an elevator would withstand.
 

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Cpu46 said:
juyunseen said:
This is all well and good, but when are we finally gonna figure out how to build a safe space elevator?
Bout the time we get carbon nanotubes perfected. The main problem right now is that we don't have anything capable of withstanding the stresses that such an elevator would withstand.
Well at least I got an actual answer on that. I was fairly certain we didn't have the right materials, or at least not enough of them
 

Cpu46

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juyunseen said:
Cpu46 said:
juyunseen said:
This is all well and good, but when are we finally gonna figure out how to build a safe space elevator?
Bout the time we get carbon nanotubes perfected. The main problem right now is that we don't have anything capable of withstanding the stresses that such an elevator would withstand.
Well at least I got an actual answer on that. I was fairly certain we didn't have the right materials, or at least not enough of them
Yea but a lot of people predict that Carbon Nanotubes are going to let us make stuff like space elevators and massive structures. And once we have a way to easily and cheaply (well relatively cheaply) move materials to space there should be a whole new space revolution.
 

Strazdas

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NASA wants to mine the close-to-earth asteroids. Private companies making efford to find resources in space.

YEAHAA the space age i dreamed about is finally coming aruond. and ill get to see it.

Am I'm only one concerned here?
Asteroid belt of solar system serves as a shield for Earth
Mining them would be risky
Not really. as far as comets and fly-bys go, such huge bodies as saturn or jupiter with their gravitational pull serves as a much better shield. as far as gas clouds and radiation goes, asteroid belt does not affect it, the sun radiation cloud behind planets does.
The real danger here is mass. if we start bringing asteroids to earth we will increase its mass, therefore sun will pull us more. if we bring in enough mass, we may end up stearing our planet towards the sun. slowly. then again there are many asteroids burnign into our atmosphere each year, and they dont seem to affect it.

Don't mean to sound stupid, but how on earth is that running low...surely if worse comes to worse they could just purify seawater, removing the salt and making it safe to drink? :S
if the consumption trends continue, the drinable water will run out in 50 years around. purifying sea water at such high amounts as we consume would take enormous efforts.
 

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You know what, hats off to these guys for taking the first steps.

They are taking a huge risk by investing in spaceships,and failure could cost them billions of dollars.

But someone has to be willing to do this. If they prove that such a thing is feasible it will inspire others to do the same, negating fears of a dystopian future run by a mega corporation, and will also indirectly cause the formation of other companies dedicated to improving all aspects of space travel and mining.

With so many hands working on one thing it will only be a matter of time until Faster Than Light travel is figured out and the real fun can begin.