Spanish Police Site Goes Dark Following Anonymous Arrests
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What? Spanish protesters challenge Status Quo?I should remind you guys that this is a message from the Spain anons. The Anonymous protest movement has taken there a huge high wind after the events of Operationayback and MidEast revolution.
Maybe it's all those tour dates the band have in Germany over the next couple of weeks. Or perhaps their 2CD album is priced at £8.97 at Tesco right now.... Who knows what incites such behaviour against legendary music icons?
A peaceful protest is one that causes no harm to either party but gets your point out. Ala the rallies in front of white house etc where they are speaking their mind but do not impede normal daily work. You can stand in front of a building and scream what is on your mind all day but you are not allowed to stop people from entering or exiting said building without the possibility of arrest also if the protestors are asked to disperse by the police (usually asked by the entity which owns the land to remove them from private property) then they are required to do so or be arrested. Also in the US most cities require a permit to organize a protest although they are fairly easy to get which basically sets the city on notice in case of incident and will help to lay out the guidelines of where and how the protest is carried out.BehattedWanderer said:
DDOS is not a protest it is bullying(for lack of a better word) it is no better then riots they just cause more harm then they do good companies or governments will look at them as nothing more then attacks instead of what they should be. They give no visual feedback of how many people believe in what is being protested for all the government knows it is 1 person controlling a large bot net.
If they really want to fight the government get out there in the streets and show them that the people want change not just some nameless faceless people on the internet who could or could not have anything to do with this issue. If you are unable to get out in the streets and would like to keep it online get information cover the stories of the people protesting get the word out let people know why the protest is going on and what they can do to help. Now don't get me wrong I do not expect anyone to get years in jail for ddos attacks but I would expect at least a fine or maybe a day or two of jail like you would for any other protest arrest.
Most of this info pertains to US protests as I have no real idea of what the laws and actions are in other parts of the world.
Goddamn it Anonymous will you just stop existing? If three people took part in Anonymous attacks, they are a part of Anonymous. You have a name, you have a goal, you have a uniform mask, you have a fucking blog, you are the groupiest group that has ever grouped or has been known to group in group-specific functions.
The way I see it, peaceful protest is the first option.MaxPowers666 said:
Since Spanish police have openly attacked peaceful protesters, I wouldn't have a problem with the protesters bringing guns next time and shooting the pigs.
If your cops are going to act like a street gang, then you should treat them like any other street gang. You either stay out of their way, or come prepared to fight.
Wow anonymous, you managed to take down a website for a few hours. Viva la revolucion *slow clap*
I would direct you to the Extra Credit on Anon. He used a good analogy with the punk movement. There aren't really members, it's not a club or anything, there's no formal organization, anyone can call themselves a punk, but there is a set of common beliefs. Anon has this, or seems to. They are all for freedom of the net and freedom of information. They also have a belief that when you buy something, it's yours to do with as you please.Fox242 said:
What really says this isn't Anon to me is the stolen credit card information. There are easier, lower profile targets for credit card information, and it goes against their pattern of actions that may be harmful but don't really directly benefit the members of anon, aside from a good laugh, and what happened to PSN isn't funny, even by internet standards.
I'm glad to finally see someone understand the difference between a peaceful protest and the bullshit Anon does.midpipps said:
Anon says it's fighting for everyone's right to freedom of speech while they parade around on their moral high-horses but, in truth, they're nothing more than bullies and thugs. They don't organize peaceful protests they plan destructive cyber attacks.
Think of it this way. It's the difference between rallying outside a company's building or going into the building and destroying all of the equipment the company uses. One causes a slight disruption in service yet manages to get its point across, while the other causes damage, causes severe loss in revenue, hurts the employees just as much as the company, and serves only to hurt it's cause.
Frankly, I hate Anon. At first, they pulled mostly harmless cyber attacks that weren't nearly as destructive and actually seemed like they cared about standing for real freedom of speech. I still hated their acts, but felt as they did about what was going on around the world. I "almost" sided with them.
But, now. Now I see them for the bullshitting thugs they are. They aren't out there fighting for us. They're out there attacking corporations and governments all while using the facade of "peaceful protesting" as an excuse for their shenanigans. Any and every person who is a part of their organization or defends their organization can go straight to hell.
I'd be surprised if they even know anything about Guy Fawkes, less who he is. One of them probably just watched V for Vendetta one day and thought the mask looked cool.Fox242 said:
Also, I hope the act of hacking a police site gets them in more trouble than they expect. Preferably the type of trouble that they won't be able to hack their way out of.
But should you be required to take a stand for someone else's beliefs because you were in the same room with them? Or met them once in an online chat room. That's what you're asking Anon to do now, by trying to make them responsible for anything and everything ever claimed to have been done in their name. It's just silly.Omgsarge said:
Parsing the Anon identity thing is easy: Those who participate in Anon may share beliefs (but probably not all their beliefs), and be motivated by the courage or malevolence of others, but they act as individuals.
Which means they can be prosecuted and judged as individuals. Neat and tidy, and conflicts with neither Anon's expressed views nor the existing legal structures.
Besides, if you walked up to a hippy or a punk or a grunger and asked "Take me to your leader," they wouldn't really understand the question. Same thing.
