X-Men works best in isolation, the whole "we hate muties ... but superscience and magical superheroes are okay" thing just doesn't work.Fusioncode9 said:
Spider-Man and X-Men Studios Team Up Against Marvel?
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The irony, small though it may be, is that this move actually makes me want to see both movies less, not that I had much desire for ASM2 anyway. They are making the wrong concessions. This makes them look desperate and afraid, all the while still managing to come across as wholly disinterested in making films for the actual fans.
They aren't too good to do some cross promoting but they cannot actually allow something like "mutant" to be said in the MCU, which is the continuity that people love right now. Petty.
Honestly, acquiesce to some of Marvel's creative control demands because they are making the better movies right now, anyway.
They aren't too good to do some cross promoting but they cannot actually allow something like "mutant" to be said in the MCU, which is the continuity that people love right now. Petty.
Honestly, acquiesce to some of Marvel's creative control demands because they are making the better movies right now, anyway.
I smell a movie adaptation of Arcade's Revenge!
....Wait. Is that a good thing?
Ignoring that, I'd really like to see a list of ways in which this actually harms you. Or anyone else.
I like the idea of a Spider-Man/X-Men team up more than the idea of him being part of the Avengers. And I know he was part of the Avengers in the comics. So was 80% of the Marvel Universe. Sandman was a member. Doesn't make them fit.
Also, I oppose SMAHAF because Firestar being involved would please Tara from WTFIWWY
....Wait. Is that a good thing?
Yeah, no need to drag Spidey down to the crap of the X-Men series.suitepee7 said:
Wait. Isn't the consumer the only reason we have the Spider-Man and X-Men reboots?bjj hero said:
Ignoring that, I'd really like to see a list of ways in which this actually harms you. Or anyone else.
Which is why Spider-Man (Threat or menace?????) would fit in thematically. And really has in the comics.Pinky said:
I like the idea of a Spider-Man/X-Men team up more than the idea of him being part of the Avengers. And I know he was part of the Avengers in the comics. So was 80% of the Marvel Universe. Sandman was a member. Doesn't make them fit.
I don't know. Loki was still moving after that.cursedseishi said:
Maybe he's looking for a cure to his powers and becomes Man-Spi...That's been done before, hasn't it?FPLOON said:
Also, I oppose SMAHAF because Firestar being involved would please Tara from WTFIWWY
Why don't we...
Take the movies from Sony and Fox
and give them back to Marvel?
I know, I know... They're going to milk the hell out of the franchises JUST so that they can make a little bit of cash... and keep the ips from Marvel and a huge movie universe.
I, personally, would like to see these three companies split the cost 3 ways, split the earnings 3 ways... and just shack up like 3 cold men in a snow storm.
Take the movies from Sony and Fox
and give them back to Marvel?
I know, I know... They're going to milk the hell out of the franchises JUST so that they can make a little bit of cash... and keep the ips from Marvel and a huge movie universe.
I, personally, would like to see these three companies split the cost 3 ways, split the earnings 3 ways... and just shack up like 3 cold men in a snow storm.
One day the contracts will run out and Spidey and the Xmen will be back in the hands of their rightful owners when it comes to movie rights and this terrifies Sony and Fox because they know damn well these licenses will make Marvel SOOOOO much more money than they could ever dream of making while they have them because Marvel actually knows how to make damn good comic movies.
I wish they would just freaking give up already, sell them back to Marvel and go make other movies they're more qualified for.
I wish they would just freaking give up already, sell them back to Marvel and go make other movies they're more qualified for.
I went to see The Amazing Spider-Man 2 yesterday and it really was good. There are some plot holes
but overall it was excellent. Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone mainly.
And I've seen people say it's confusing because there's too many villains..there's two. TWO. I never got confused.
Go see it though, it's good, not perfect, but worth, seeing.
they kinda screw the possibility of Miles, and leave The Richard Parker bit hanging
And I've seen people say it's confusing because there's too many villains..there's two. TWO. I never got confused.
Go see it though, it's good, not perfect, but worth, seeing.
http://variety.com/2014/film/news/the-secret-deal-behind-spider-man-2-plugging-the-x-men-exclusive-1201158216/
Seems this was actually just an odd instance of Sony fulfilling a contractual obligation to 'promote' Fox's new X-men movie in exchange for Mark Webb being released to work for them.
Seems this was actually just an odd instance of Sony fulfilling a contractual obligation to 'promote' Fox's new X-men movie in exchange for Mark Webb being released to work for them.
The biggest problem is, the MCU, spiderman and F4 movies all are about a few people with spesial powers helping those without any.SilverStuddedSquirre said:
X-Men is about armies of people with special powers battleing eiths other or armies without any.
The Battle of New York woult be quite different if a third of the citizens could shoot deadray's out of there eye's.
simpely put, the back stories of the worlds of these movies are incompatteble. (with X-men any way)
Time travel could solve that. (a bit of a cheap solution, but it has a connection to comic/cartoon)
And don't forget, Xavier Died in X3 as well.
I do think you are being a bit harsh to some of movies.
The F4 movies weren't to bad, the fist a bit beter than the second.
(And dont forget it's a reboot, so its a fresh deck)
Spiderman 1,2 and ASM1 were enjoyable too (sm 3 not so much).
And X-men, non of them drove me to demand a refund.(were good not great)
Compare them to DareDevil(almost walkt out on that one) or Catwoman.
And let's not forget the matter of taste.
William Ossiss said:Why don't we...
Take the movies from Sony and Fox
and give them back to Marvel?
Yay, Spongebob reference!
I read a similar report this morning. At first, I thought it was an actual crossover but the mentioning of characters like Havoc and Stryker, two characters from the X-Men's past, raised a red flag. So, this is more of a cross-promotion instead.LostPause said:
Personally, Sony and Fox working together like this might not work in their favor. They're making a lot of plans with the IPs they have but the upcoming movies for this year, Amazing Spider-Man 2 and X-Men: Days of Future's Past, have yet to be released to the public. Amazing Spider-Man, so far, is getting positive reviews but the majority of them say that the movie has some glaring issues despite what Rotten Tomatoes qualifies as a "passing grade". Either way, if one or both of these films tank at the box office, then its going to hurt the outcome of their future plans.
I really wish both companies would work together to make a more cohesive cinematic universe, but it looks like the commentary Jim Sterling provided in a previous episode (see Jimquisition episode The Unholy Trinity of Blind Greedy Bastards) definitely applies to Hollywood as well. -_-
Unfortunately the way the rights were sold says that as long as a movie using that property is made every X years the rights will not revert back, it's why a terrible FF movie was made and never released a while back. Marvel won't get the characters back as long as movies keep getting made unless they can buy the studios out of their contracts.LazyAza said:
Sigh. It's a limp-wristed tactic to thumb its nose at Marvel with its own creations. Marvel is likely biding its time, however, confidently amassing a large pile of money to dump on them to buy out their contracts and get started on a decent Spider-Man film. As for the X-Men films, I dunno. DoFP looks interesting and First Class was a bold new take on the property, so if nothing else at least Fox has someone with a head on his shoulders helming the franchise, and not a by-the-numbers committee like Spider-Man.
But eh, if you want to see both in the Marvel universe, check out Ultimate Spider-Man. That series has Spidey, the X-Men, Agent Coulson, the Guardians of the Galaxy, the whole shebang.
But eh, if you want to see both in the Marvel universe, check out Ultimate Spider-Man. That series has Spidey, the X-Men, Agent Coulson, the Guardians of the Galaxy, the whole shebang.
If they think they can take on the Marvel cinematic universe then I'd like to sit back, and watch this one sided fight. Marvel, as we all know, was a first in doing joined comic book movies like this, and they've done a great job. It's pretty clear that they're making these movies just to keep the rights to Spidy, and X-Men. As Movie Bob said Amazing SpiderMan is just being made to keep the rights to the movies in Sony's dirty hands. Fox got luck with First Class, but they still had the same reason for making the film; it just so happen to be really good.
X-Men, in my opinion, can stay with Fox for now, but Sony, let Marvel have Peter back. I know a lot of people would like that very much. Besides, a Spiderman/Iron Man snark off would get my ass in a theater seat any day. Anyway, if Marvel really wanted to shut down Sony, and Fox they could buy back the rights if the two knuckle heads will be willing the take the cash, and run. Now, about that Fantastic 4 reboot...
X-Men, in my opinion, can stay with Fox for now, but Sony, let Marvel have Peter back. I know a lot of people would like that very much. Besides, a Spiderman/Iron Man snark off would get my ass in a theater seat any day. Anyway, if Marvel really wanted to shut down Sony, and Fox they could buy back the rights if the two knuckle heads will be willing the take the cash, and run. Now, about that Fantastic 4 reboot...
Yeah, about that Fantastic 4 reboot?Lizmichi said:
Is FOX just holding on to that license out of spite?
If this one fails, i don't see FOX doing a trow away movie just to keep the rights again.
If 3 out of 3 bombs, just stop and walk away.
It took only one DareDevil movie to see that it was going nowere.
And why not buy back the rights?
Fox and Sony wouldn't just ask a crazy amount of money, no they would ask all the money. (as a downpayment probably)
It means there can never be any cross over because no one will share their toys. It is why Martin Osbourne has nothing to do with the Iron Patriot. There will be no Illuminati or Cabal (does anyone else love how Namor sits on both?). No civil war, no Avengers vs X-men, no Spidey and the avengers... I could go on.Zachary Amaranth said:
I guess it Doesnt "harm me" but its a real shame and it will be missed by a lot of fans I imagine.
Actually with Daredevil they did TRY to make a second movie to keep the rights but the production fell through just before the deadline and the rights defaulted back to Marvel. It was just pure luck in that case. I hear Marvel might try something with Daredevil in one of the upcoming TV series they have planned. So there's that...Jeroenr said: