To be fair, have you ever given Batman the chance? He might be up for it, you never know. He could even turn out to have tentacles under those wings somewhere.Trishbot said:
Spider-Man's Knickers
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My favourite "story behind the wounds" character comes from No One Lives Forever 2, in which the devious super villain spends the entire game in a wheelchair, cacooned in bandages. About half way through, you eventually find out why. Skip to 5:27 in the video:
Regarding the last paragraph as to where Spiderman gets thread, I dunno...maybe if he had a thread-making animal do it for him. Like a spider. Have to be a big spider, though. Big as a person.
I'll just note that the whole concept of gradually looking more like you've ran out of fucks to give is something Red Orchestra 2 is doing. You start out as a fresh-faced recruit in a neat uniform, but the higher your level, the more dirtied and worn you look like. Very high level characters for example go into warm-weather battles with rolled-up sleeves.
It's very subtle though, especially as you don't spend much time looking at your character model, it being a first-person shooter and all.
It's very subtle though, especially as you don't spend much time looking at your character model, it being a first-person shooter and all.
Actually, that mostly reminds me of Shogun II: Total War. Your units gain veterancy in battles, but replenishing their numbers causes the entire unit to lose veterancy, as it is diluting its battle-hardened veterans with fresh recruits. It functions as an incitement to try and not only win, but win with as few casualties as possible.SonicWaffle said:
That was one of the things I liked about the X-Men Origins tie in Wolverine game. Wolverine got damaged and regenerated, but his clothes didn't take part in that second part. Although his jeans staying pristine the entire time was always a bit weird. And it happened in-game.
Well, that doesn't really work; it means that the most skilled people end up playing a less challanging game, which isn't what they will enjoy, and the least skilled people end up playing a more challanging game, which REALLY isn't what they will enjoy. It would kind of make the game worst for everyone.SonicWaffle said:
How could such a thing even exist?Mahoshonen said:
OT: I don't know if I'd enjoy receiving scars as achievements. But having wounds after tough fights that scar later on in games like Skyrim could add something. It sometimes strikes me as bizarre that you can get mauled by a freaking bear and still your face doesn't even show any wrinkles.
Maybe this could even become a mechanic: if you don't visit a doctor or patch yourself up your wounds start infecting and you suffer stat decrease and fatigue.
Yeah, I remember The Prince doing that with his shirt and chest armor in The Sands of Time. Is this going to be a trend in single-player games, story-induced clothing damage? SOmetimes it's clever, and sometimes it sounds like a cheap gimmick.
captcha: puppy dog
captcha: puppy dog
I was going to say that. You look at yourself at one point and go, "Oh my god, I'm a monster!" Adds the the story in a fantastically subtle way.arcstone said:
Not really - this is why we have difficulty levels. For the skilled player surviving at high difficulties would be a challenge, and for the less skilled playing at low difficulty would still be a challenge.Yosarian2 said:
It makes sense for Spidey, though- he's literally always messing his costume up, because he IS a total spaz- especially in Ultimate (On which Amazing was totally based no matter what the mean kids say).
Thematically, it may not really do a whole lot, but I felt the costume damage did plenty to add some weight to each individual encounter- I mean, fuck, the dude is a kid, of course he's out of his depth in every single battle. He sure keeps winning, though. He drags his ass back to that apartment every time.
Thematically, it may not really do a whole lot, but I felt the costume damage did plenty to add some weight to each individual encounter- I mean, fuck, the dude is a kid, of course he's out of his depth in every single battle. He sure keeps winning, though. He drags his ass back to that apartment every time.
I just finished Spec Ops: The Line the other day, and maybe it's because it's fresh in my mind, but I think that game probably had the best use of damage over time on the character models I've ever seen in a game. Certainly it helped with making the characters vulnerable, which helped to make them seem even more badass, but it was the thematic connotations that I liked.
The state of the characters models, going from clean, undamaged models to bloody, beaten characters with tattered clothing, mirrored their emotional states, going from calm, emotionally stable soldiers there to do a job to broken men, beaten and wearied not just by physical trauma, but the actions they've taken and the horrors they've witnessed, barely able to stop from tearing each other apart.
In the end, Walker's sleeves are torn off, leaving him looking like he's in a vest (in a throwback to the Vietnam aesthetic of Apocalypse Now), and his face is torn apart. One of the final scenes has him standing next to a mirror. The camera is on the right side of his face, showing his bloody, burned, and scarred side, while in the mirror you see his far less mangled left side, which is cleaner, and has only one major cut, which resembles a cross. The battle damage the character has acquired is in this scene used to represent his fractured psyche, and his internal conflict; his desire to do the right thing and help people, and his burning need to kill everything in his path.
The state of the characters models, going from clean, undamaged models to bloody, beaten characters with tattered clothing, mirrored their emotional states, going from calm, emotionally stable soldiers there to do a job to broken men, beaten and wearied not just by physical trauma, but the actions they've taken and the horrors they've witnessed, barely able to stop from tearing each other apart.
In the end, Walker's sleeves are torn off, leaving him looking like he's in a vest (in a throwback to the Vietnam aesthetic of Apocalypse Now), and his face is torn apart. One of the final scenes has him standing next to a mirror. The camera is on the right side of his face, showing his bloody, burned, and scarred side, while in the mirror you see his far less mangled left side, which is cleaner, and has only one major cut, which resembles a cross. The battle damage the character has acquired is in this scene used to represent his fractured psyche, and his internal conflict; his desire to do the right thing and help people, and his burning need to kill everything in his path.
When I played through Arkham Asylum, The clothing damage was actually somewhat disturbing. I always saw batman as untouchable, a highly skilled badass in every sense of the word, a legend that strikes fear in the hearts of criminals everywhere. But then as the game went on, I saw he was human and vulnerable. It was very effective.
Freedom Fighters did it quite well too. There were several significant stages in the game marking your transition from fresh-faced plumber to war-weary fighter. By the end of the game the protagonist's clothing is torn, patched and things like coats are added as winter comes. Over the course of the game he picks up all sorts of scars and his hair grows to his shoulders. In spite of everything, you could see that it was still the outfit he started the game with.
Shame it didn't last very long, and the story was basically Red Dawn in New York. Pretty good fun though.
Shame it didn't last very long, and the story was basically Red Dawn in New York. Pretty good fun though.
I didn't actually hate the game, and I did finish it, but I can certainly remember parts that challenged me.cursedseishi said:
Playing the arena in co-op for instance, or the shooting range, or figuring out how to get those dman demon doors open.
It wasn't exactly fun, but it wasn't a total cakewalk either.
Or, if you wanted to play a douchenozzle, advanced technology could get rid of your scars for a price. One wonders why Garrus kept his fucked-up face, in that case...Rayne07 said: