Spoiler-rific Dark Knight Rises *****/moan/praise thread

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Waaghpowa said:
P.S Queue fanboys who will rage over the fact that I have an opinion.
Well no offense pal, it does kind of seem like you're trying to bait them, especially with that.
It's not bait if you don't respond to it. Unless you have something to add to the discussion, there's no need to reply to it. Some people could interpret your quick jump to reply to it as projecting. So if it doesn't affect you, then don't bother.

I have met several people who get all upset over the fact that I didn't enjoy the movie, as if it were impossible for people not to enjoy it and that I'm somehow wrong. So excuse me for being a bit preemptive in assuming that I might get those same people.
 

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The one big plot hole
-Maybe I'm missing something, but why exactly did they wait to blow up the city? They could have done it at any time, and were always going to destroy the city, so why wait and give the remaining good guys a chance to fight back?
Bane said that he wanted to truly break Gotham, making then think that they had a chance to fight back, for as he put it, what is despair without a little bit of hope? That's why the pit is considered Hell on Earth, escape is so close...yet so far. Also he wanted to torture Bruce.
Ha, I don't remember that line, that may have been when I stepped out to tend to my bursting bladder. Makes more sense now, although I believe this means Bane has never read the "if I were the evil Overlord" list.
 

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Waaghpowa said:
erttheking said:
Waaghpowa said:
P.S Queue fanboys who will rage over the fact that I have an opinion.
Well no offense pal, it does kind of seem like you're trying to bait them, especially with that.
It's not bait if you don't respond to it. Unless you have something to add to the discussion, there's no need to reply to it. Some people could interpret your quick jump to reply to it as projecting. So if it doesn't affect you, then don't bother.

I have met several people who get all upset over the fact that I didn't enjoy the movie, as if it were impossible for people not to enjoy it and that I'm somehow wrong. So excuse me for being a bit preemptive in assuming that I might get those same people.
Yeesh, people always assume that if I reply to anything then I'm getting all defensive. Yeesh. I'm just pointing out that your review was less than polite and that little P.S. came off as a "come at me bro" which made it look like you were looking for a fight. I just wanted to point that out.
 

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Yeesh, people always assume that if I reply to anything then I'm getting all defensive. Yeesh. I'm just pointing out that your review was less than polite and that little P.S. came off as a "come at me bro" which made it look like you were looking for a fight. I just wanted to point that out.
Because it does sound defensive. As I said, if it doesn't affect you, there's no reason to reply to it. Any rational person who isn't a fan boy isn't going to care, nor should they care.

I didn't like the movie, I apologize if "I think it sucked" is less than polite. Who's feelings are going to get hurt over it? Well, aside from those people who were sending death threats to the critic for panning a movie they hadn't seen yet.
 

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Waaghpowa said:
P.S Queue fanboys who will rage over the fact that I have an opinion.
Having an opinion different doesn't matter. Hell I'm not at all "stunned, or shocked" that you have a different opinion. Don't act high and mighty because of a opinion. It makes you look like a self righteous douche hipster. Also that attitude invalidates you having an opinion and just looks like an attempt to "Stand out." Even if you truly didn't like the movie. Which is fine. Don't try to make that opinion sound special. Problem is not you not liking the movie. It's just how you take pride in how you don't like it.

OT: I liked the movie. It isn't as good as the Dark Knight but that's a hard act to follow. It easily blows Batman Begins away. Only problem was the pacing, Bruce and Tate sexing it up randomly, and Blake being able to find out who Batman is by instinct. I liked the first fight with Bane and Batman especially with the lack of music. I hoped that the back-breaking scene would be more dramatic but it was a nice homage to "Knight Fall." Camera angle and back breaking was near exact to the comic.

Christopher Nolan can go to his grave knowing he made one of the best trilogies of all time.
 

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Waaghpowa said:
erttheking said:
Yeesh, people always assume that if I reply to anything then I'm getting all defensive. Yeesh. I'm just pointing out that your review was less than polite and that little P.S. came off as a "come at me bro" which made it look like you were looking for a fight. I just wanted to point that out.
Because it does sound defensive. As I said, if it doesn't affect you, there's no reason to reply to it. Any rational person who isn't a fan boy isn't going to care, nor should they care.

I didn't like the movie, I apologize if "I think it sucked" is less than polite. Who's feelings are going to get hurt over it? Well, aside from those people who were sending death threats to the critic for panning a movie they hadn't seen yet.
There's saying "I didn't like it," and then there's saying "this piece of shit made me want to throw up". You were a little closer to the second, which tends to get people angry more, especially when coupled with that P.S. which, like I said, kind of feels like a "come at me bro". Also if a rational person that isn't a fanboy isn't going to care then, frankly, why did you even bother typing out what you thought? The point of forums is to talk about things in open ended discussions and debates, not just posting something and giving people a hard time for replying to them. I'm just saying "it doesn't affect you" just seems like a variation of "mind your own business" and I'm not going to lie, "mind your own business" is THE weakest excuse that I have ever heard in my life. In my opinion anyway. I spotting something that kind of irritated me in your post and I pointed it out. I don't mean any offense.
 

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I by no means meant for my opinion to be more special than someone else's. I haven encountered several people who take offense to my opinion on the Batman series as a whole and shrug it off as "You're just a hater" or in your case" You're just a hipster douche" rather than actually discussing said opinion.

Enjoyed the movie and disagree with my opinion? Fine, you can tell me you disagree all you like and counter my reasons with your own. Personal attacks don't elevate you any higher than me.

So please, next time have something constructive to say if you want to reply to me because so far, all I've gotten is the generic "you're a hater" esque replies.
 

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erttheking said:
There's saying "I didn't like it," and then there's saying "this piece of shit made me want to throw up". You were a little closer to the second, which tends to get people angry more. Also if a rational person that isn't a fanboy isn't going to care then, frankly, why did you even bother typing out what you thought? The point of forums is to talk about things in open ended discussions and debates, not just posting something and giving people a hard time for replying to them.
I was under the impression that this thread was about your opinions on the film. I also said that I enjoyed the other films to a certain degree and that this one is the only one I thought was actually bad.


I'm just saying "it doesn't affect you" just seems like a variation of "mind your own business" and I'm not going to lie, "mind your own business" is THE weakest excuse that I have ever heard in my life. In my opinion anyway. I spotting something that kind of irritated me in your post and I pointed it out. I don't mean any offense.
I'll remove it then. I only meant to point out that if it really doesn't bother you, you shouldn't be compelled to reply to it.
 

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Waaghpowa said:
ServebotFrank said:
I by no means meant for my opinion to be more special than someone else's. I haven encountered several people who take offense to my opinion on the Batman series as a whole and shrug it off as "You're just a hater" or in your case" You're just a hipster douche" rather than actually discussing said opinion.

Enjoyed the movie and disagree with my opinion? Fine, you can tell me you disagree all you like and counter my reasons with your own. Personal attacks don't elevate you any higher than me.

So please, next time have something constructive to say if you want to reply to me because so far, all I've gotten is the generic "you're a hater" esque replies.
Way to take what I said wrong. Did I say I took offence at your opinion? No. I took offence at you just baiting people just cause "I have a different opinion. Come at me bros!" That was not a personal attack by any means. Did I tell you to go die in a fire or something? No I didn't. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that you personally are a hipster douche. I implied that your comment will put that little thought in people's minds when you bait them like that.

Hell I was pretty constructive for such a short comment. I'm not discussing your opinion. That's not my intent. You egging on people just cause is not a good thing to do. That honestly does make you seem high and mighty when you do that.
 

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Waaghpowa said:
erttheking said:
There's saying "I didn't like it," and then there's saying "this piece of shit made me want to throw up". You were a little closer to the second, which tends to get people angry more. Also if a rational person that isn't a fanboy isn't going to care then, frankly, why did you even bother typing out what you thought? The point of forums is to talk about things in open ended discussions and debates, not just posting something and giving people a hard time for replying to them.
I was under the impression that this thread was about your opinions on the film. I also said that I enjoyed the other films to a certain degree and that this one is the only one I thought was actually bad.


I'm just saying "it doesn't affect you" just seems like a variation of "mind your own business" and I'm not going to lie, "mind your own business" is THE weakest excuse that I have ever heard in my life. In my opinion anyway. I spotting something that kind of irritated me in your post and I pointed it out. I don't mean any offense.
I'll remove it then. I only meant to point out that if it really doesn't bother you, you shouldn't be compelled to reply to it.
And this is a forum where the point is to discuss things such as your opinion. That includes replying and going back and forth about them.

Also, no offense, but I don't think you really got my gripe. I didn't have a problem with your opinion. I had a problem with your attitude. Frankly people who just talk like that like they're looking for a fight on the forums just...bug me. I don't care what it's about. No offense.
 

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ServebotFrank said:
I never intended to egg people on because I assumed that rational people wouldn't care, because they're rational. Your post gave me the impression that you were making assumptions yourself by saying that I'm attempting to stand out or "it makes you sound like a hipster douche". So I'm sorry for taking it the wrong way as I live in an area with some very insufferable people who will banish you the moment you say anything negative about these movies.
 

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Also, no offense, but I don't think you really got my gripe. I didn't have a problem with your opinion. I had a problem with your attitude. Frankly people who just talk like that like they're looking for a fight on the forums just...bug me. I don't care what it's about. No offense.
As I mentioned, my intention wasn't to bait people. I live in an area with a lot of the kind of people I can only describe as douche bags or self proclaimed "Guidos". These are the kind of people who think that comic books are lame or for losers but will bang on and on about how sick "Insert comic book movie here" is, regardless of how bad it actually is. So I get a lot of "You're a hater" responses with no real defense.

Now, maybe I dislike these movies because I'm a comic book purist and it's possibly the reason why I enjoy the Marvel movies more. Also it's possible that I can't take any super hero with the same degree of seriousness that they intend with Batman. If you ask me, I can't take someone who flies around in their underwear dressed as a bat all too seriously. Going back to my preference to the Marvel movies, I prefer them because they realize it's a comic, and as such are just as fun as they are serious.

The only character I can really take seriously is the Punisher, partly because he's the kind of comic book character that could actually plausibly exist somewhere.
 

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There doesn't seem to be much love for Bane's voice/accent. Personally, I loved it. It was so distinct and different.
 

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Nouw said:
There doesn't seem to be much love for Bane's voice/accent. Personally, I loved it. It was so distinct and different.
I loved it as well. But I only hope that in the DVD/Blu-Ray that Nolan keeps scenes that have the original sound of his voice (like the opening scene leak), it was a lot harder to understand but just as menacing.
 

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Lovely Mixture said:
Nouw said:
There doesn't seem to be much love for Bane's voice/accent. Personally, I loved it. It was so distinct and different.
I loved it as well. But I only hope that in the DVD/Blu-Ray that Nolan keeps scenes that have the original sound of his voice (like the opening scene leak), it was a lot harder to understand but just as menacing.
Original voice? Can you provide a video of what you mean?
 

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Nouw said:
Lovely Mixture said:
Nouw said:
There doesn't seem to be much love for Bane's voice/accent. Personally, I loved it. It was so distinct and different.
I loved it as well. But I only hope that in the DVD/Blu-Ray that Nolan keeps scenes that have the original sound of his voice (like the opening scene leak), it was a lot harder to understand but just as menacing.
Original voice? Can you provide a video of what you mean?
Here [http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/76551]. It's possible I was misremembering, cause it doesn't sound that different, maybe less clear though (can't tell if that's cause of the bootleg quality or not).
 

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The only thing I really thought was stupid about the ending was... Robin. Really? His NAME is Robin? Why not name him Dick? Or Tim? Or Terry? Why Robin? That's just dumb.

Still though, loved it. :D
I'd have preferred it if, instead of John Blake, they called him Richard Blake. Then at the end when he goes for the files and says 'try my other name' it turns out his birth name is Grayson.

We know he's an orphan, so it would have been entirely possible that when adopted he took his adoptive parents name - blake - but certain files from his youth would still be under the birth name grayson.

Richard Blake doesn't giveaway that he's really Dick Grayson and is a much better way of revealing his identity than just saying 'I'm Robin.' Yeah, some people in the audience would be all 'OMG I totally knew that richard guy was robin!' but you always get people who claim they saw every twist coming and how predictable things where.

In any case, I loved the film. It had it's flaws (apparently batmans presence in a car chase causes the sun to hide) but I had a good time with this film.
 

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Lovely Mixture said:
Nouw said:
Lovely Mixture said:
Nouw said:
There doesn't seem to be much love for Bane's voice/accent. Personally, I loved it. It was so distinct and different.
I loved it as well. But I only hope that in the DVD/Blu-Ray that Nolan keeps scenes that have the original sound of his voice (like the opening scene leak), it was a lot harder to understand but just as menacing.
Original voice? Can you provide a video of what you mean?
Here [http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/76551]. It's possible I was misremembering, cause it doesn't sound that different, maybe less clear though (can't tell if that's cause of the bootleg quality or not).
I actually think it's the bootleg quality :p. But it probably changed a bit during production as it's hard to have the same voice throughout shooting.

EDIT: Someone else says it changed too. Maybe it's the environment they were filming in?
 

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DON'T READ BELOW IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW. YOU'RE WARNED.

Here's my list:

-As far as Robin goes, awsome twist, had me cheering in the theatre and saved the ending for me.

-Bane, YES x100. As far as Villains go I think he is(/was) better than the Joker in terms of scale and just pure evil goes. But yes I still think Heath Ledger acts circles around Tom Hardy or anyone else in Dark Knight Trilogy... PERIOD.

-Miranda WHAT THE HELL?!? Everything involved with her pissed me off. And when the "big twist" arrived and made Bane look like a pussy... man I just can't describe how disappointed my face was. I mean it wouldn't have even been that bad if she actually did something and not just stand around googly-eyed and not to anything to show her appearent "badassery" according to the plot.

-The bomb -_- yeah..... it would have decimated those sorry bastards even from that far.

-Batman... Awsome. Bruce Wayne meh for the first half hour... then awsome.

- Loved the call outs to the comics, broken back, Lazarus Pit, all awsome.

-But BY FAR what pissed my off the most was the "YAY HE'S ALIVE!" happy ending with unicorns and rainbows and puppies with bow-tie's and shit.

Loved the movie, not QUITE as much as Dark Knight but still, just awsome all-around (I liked it more than The Avengers :p).

All I have to say is GO SEE THIS MOVIE.
 

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Nouw said:
There doesn't seem to be much love for Bane's voice/accent. Personally, I loved it. It was so distinct and different.
Yes, it was awsome. Better than Vader!
Except for that first plane scene, he sounded a little weird but for some reason it was only that scene alone.

Everything else... awsome.