I feel your pain on this one megs. I, like alot of people, became a fan of Square with 7, but ever since 10 and the merger with Enix it just seems like a completely different company. It's a real shame. After playing 13 I think I have pretty much given up on Square.megs1120 said:
Square-Enix Extends FF14 Free Trial Yet Again
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Yeah, this game is gonna bomb horribly. And I don't really care.
Square treats their customers like crap, so they get what's coming to them.
Square treats their customers like crap, so they get what's coming to them.
It is very embarrassing that this game is marked with the SE name, I think allot of people cut them allot of slack for their first MMO. For the most part I think they did well with it, so It was really hard for not only that user base not be excited for 14 but also current MMO players who got to see some of SE's technical wizardy and graphical story telling unfold only to find that whats there not only barely draws from its predecessor but makes all new mistakes that even last generation MMO's wouldn't make.
It's easy to get the impression that square hates PC gamers, it would be difficult to beleive the stuff they pull wasn't on purpose. However one has to conceed at least they are doing the right thing by not further charging their customer base.
extending their free trial by 60 days is a major lose for the company, helping at least in my eyes show that they ARE actually interested in making a good game and not just money. I won't hold my breath on how the changes will pan out, the suggested updates look good on paper but there is literary a mountain of problems that the game has to address to even begin to get on par with games like WoW or Aion.
But hey, at least if you got stuck paying the box price a 90 day play period softens the sting of the initial bad investment at least. Who knows, they may pull the game out of its woes.
The final Fantasy brand though is in trouble, they can no longer just shred what they have learned from prior games and start anew with creative juices alone, they need to draw on their past learned technical skills to save this series, its time they come to terms with what they really want to make here. Dragon Quest gets this, FF needs to fall in line too.
It's easy to get the impression that square hates PC gamers, it would be difficult to beleive the stuff they pull wasn't on purpose. However one has to conceed at least they are doing the right thing by not further charging their customer base.
extending their free trial by 60 days is a major lose for the company, helping at least in my eyes show that they ARE actually interested in making a good game and not just money. I won't hold my breath on how the changes will pan out, the suggested updates look good on paper but there is literary a mountain of problems that the game has to address to even begin to get on par with games like WoW or Aion.
But hey, at least if you got stuck paying the box price a 90 day play period softens the sting of the initial bad investment at least. Who knows, they may pull the game out of its woes.
The final Fantasy brand though is in trouble, they can no longer just shred what they have learned from prior games and start anew with creative juices alone, they need to draw on their past learned technical skills to save this series, its time they come to terms with what they really want to make here. Dragon Quest gets this, FF needs to fall in line too.
Both recent FFs have been flops IMO, really a FFVII remake would redeem Square in many peoples eyes, but back to the original topic nearly everybody and their grandmother agreed that FFXIV would be a flop, the crafting system is bland, the combat even more so, sure it looks pretty but otherwise it's really bland.
Square could extend the free trial for an entire year and I still wouldn't be playing it. This is hands down the worst game I've ever played. I don't want more time with it, even if that time is free!
I don't know why it makes me happy to hear these news. And it's not for the free time, mind you.
I guess their mediocrity catched up to them. When do you think they will close the servers? XD
I guess their mediocrity catched up to them. When do you think they will close the servers? XD
I can see the game going free to play before the PS3 release and going into micro transactions. I know that will get gamers trust back because I've asked gamers in Australia who play Final Fantasy and they all agree. They even said they'd play it with all it's problem if it ran on that model.
Personally I see Final Fantasy XIV going the way of Tabula Rasa and APB.
Personally I see Final Fantasy XIV going the way of Tabula Rasa and APB.
Same here... minus the getting "excited for FF XIV" part, because I never knew the game even existed until I saw a hilarious review [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0GxMOBztA].Clash_Action said:
Either way, this game has already failed to impress the MMO crowd and no number of patches will help detract the community's attention from better MMOs that are coming out (WoW Cat, Rift, Tera, Guild Wars 2 & Star Wars: TOR).
I love MMO's and I try new ones all the time just to see if I may like one or more to play, this was not one of them. I disliked this game pretty much on the whole. Combat was boring, questing was more boring and limited than any other MMO i have ever played, crafting is such a unnecessarily complex time sink it is painful, etc etc. I could not fathom dropping $50 on this game, they need to continue to offer free months to save any face. The game really isn't up to par with the current MMO's and will suffer with the slew of upcoming MMO releases for next year.
FFXIV will probably be f2p and/or have a serious cash shop eventually, maybe even as early as the time the PS3 version drops. The Crysta system in place already is set for item shop application.
FFXIV will probably be f2p and/or have a serious cash shop eventually, maybe even as early as the time the PS3 version drops. The Crysta system in place already is set for item shop application.
SquareEnix is not squaresoft. The creator of Final Fantasy started his own company called MistWalker which helped make Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey which were great. MistWalker is the new squaresoft, squareEnix is just another crappy branch of enix which is designed to make money, not quality, just like activision works. They don't care about creating something new or trying to improve an old formula, they just stick the name final fantasy on something and hope to take all the cash out of your pockets. Im sorry, but i've tried many different mmo's, both f2p and p2p. Final Fantasy 14 is one of the worst games i've ever played.
The xp punishment system in ff11 put me off, but the way they punish you in this game is retarded as heck. You have to stop playing your favorite class in order to switch to another class which takes forever to do without a macro. After about an hour or less of play, I just did everything there is to do. Now I get to use the crafting system which is confusing as heck, and gives random results, oh great. I also have to rely on other players to get materials to create equipment which is difficult to do with the non-functioning chat system they have and the fact that there is no auction house(the retainer system is retarded.) The menu system is slow as heck, this game is mind boggling. Now I know why all that weird porn comes from japan, they love punishment.
Dammit SquareEnix, just copy wow's mechanics and put it into the final fantasy realm. Here are your classes; Berserker(Cloud,Sabin,Sephiroth,Kain), Gunner/Gunblader (Irving,Squall,Barret,Edgar) RuneKnight(Celes, Kefka, Gogo, kuja) Mage(Vivi, Terra, Strago, Gau) Thief(Locke,Shadow,Setzer).
The names in parentheses is just for clothing and class examples. Now, the classes can have subclasses like the talents in wow. You can put points in gunner skills and play and dress like Barret or gunblade points and play like squall, be a paladin and tank(Cecil), or be a swordfighter(Sephiroth,cloud),Dragon Knight(Kain)... etc.
Imagine playing as setzer and having dice for weapons, that would be cool.
You know what, lets get some designers and programmers together and make this game ourself. We just call it, "The Last Fantasy" and rename any references to final fantasy. (Cloud/Nebulas, Sephiroth/Lucificous, Kuja/Jarul, Terra/Ird, Kefka/GayClownMan pronounced GaeeCloman).
The xp punishment system in ff11 put me off, but the way they punish you in this game is retarded as heck. You have to stop playing your favorite class in order to switch to another class which takes forever to do without a macro. After about an hour or less of play, I just did everything there is to do. Now I get to use the crafting system which is confusing as heck, and gives random results, oh great. I also have to rely on other players to get materials to create equipment which is difficult to do with the non-functioning chat system they have and the fact that there is no auction house(the retainer system is retarded.) The menu system is slow as heck, this game is mind boggling. Now I know why all that weird porn comes from japan, they love punishment.
Dammit SquareEnix, just copy wow's mechanics and put it into the final fantasy realm. Here are your classes; Berserker(Cloud,Sabin,Sephiroth,Kain), Gunner/Gunblader (Irving,Squall,Barret,Edgar) RuneKnight(Celes, Kefka, Gogo, kuja) Mage(Vivi, Terra, Strago, Gau) Thief(Locke,Shadow,Setzer).
The names in parentheses is just for clothing and class examples. Now, the classes can have subclasses like the talents in wow. You can put points in gunner skills and play and dress like Barret or gunblade points and play like squall, be a paladin and tank(Cecil), or be a swordfighter(Sephiroth,cloud),Dragon Knight(Kain)... etc.
Imagine playing as setzer and having dice for weapons, that would be cool.
You know what, lets get some designers and programmers together and make this game ourself. We just call it, "The Last Fantasy" and rename any references to final fantasy. (Cloud/Nebulas, Sephiroth/Lucificous, Kuja/Jarul, Terra/Ird, Kefka/GayClownMan pronounced GaeeCloman).
BINGO.Danzaivar said:
Its been said before, but SE should be actually ashamed of themselves. A game with a (former) reputation of being so polished and well thought out can NOT blame anyone else besides themselves for this. SE knew better. They went for the quick and pretty, and fuck all to anything else, and now theyre paying for it.
Extend it out another month. Thatll fix it. Instead of actual, you know, fixes.
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