Square Enix Wants Another Ten Years of Deus Ex

Sigmund Av Volsung

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I have high expectations for human evolution; It looks like Mass effect 2's cities and aesthetics mixed in with modern warfare's whizz-bang-shooty fun, also with a sprinkle of mirror edge's graphics, with some assassins creed elements.

I demand a lot from hyped games.
 

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JediMB said:
I still haven't made it very far in the original game, since I forgot to save for a good while before accidentally killing myself. I didn't really feel like replaying that bit at the time.
Same thing happened to me - I was absolutely loving it, but then I tripped down a ladder and lost 2 hours xD It takes some effort to pull yourself back from that.

Still can't wait for Human Revolution though; everything I've seen has it looking like a sequel to the first game as well as a game from 2011.

Scrumpmonkey said:
We have yet to see if Squeenix can handle ONE good Deus Ex game nevermind a decade of them. Squeenix have been odd of late; the games they have developed/ publishes have been... patchy to say the least, they seem to be floundering.
Well, they've been developing this since 06/07, and Squeenix only picked them up last year; it seems foolish to buy a company and then try and interfere with a game they've been making for a good amount of time.

Eidos Montreal have said they've pretty much left them to it, which is encouraging.

And dear God Escapist, I don't know what it is but Chrome's malware warning is lighting up like a Christmas tree on you today.
 

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Serenegoose said:
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Why would you even admit that?!

I mean really, whilst I commend their honesty, why would you announce to the people who are interested in your game, that you see it as a decade long cash cow?

What's with that?
To be fair to Wada, he's a businessman talking to a business site, and you're putting words in his mouth when you say "cash cow." Not every CEO is Bobby Kotick, and profit isn't a dirty word.
Well of course he's not going to say that. And I get that he's saying it to a business website. I'm aware that not every CEO is Bobby Kotick, because it's not much of a stretch to believe Bobby Kotick WOULD refer to franchises as cash cows. That said, it's basically my belief that corporations have to prove that whenever they talk about long running franchises, they are NOT talking about turning them into cash cows. Activision and EA (EA sports in particular) may have played a large part in informing that belief, but given this statement is coming from Squeenix (of final fantasy 48,000 fame) I hardly feel it's an inappropriate judgement. So yeah, I get that he might be reassuring shareholders, I'm just saying that most other people selling us stuff are a little more savvy than that, and it's surprising that so many game publishers will openly brag about this. I remember the peeps making unreal tournament bragging about how they were going to release a UT game every year (many years back), so it's not an isolated thing.
You forget, the Final Fantasy series is FAR from a cash cow. Each game has a crazy long dev time. In the past ten years, we've only had 3 main titles in the core RPG series. X, XII, and XIII.

It's not like yearly FF games and yearly Deus Ex games are going to start raining down.

Outside of the occasional FF spin-off and DS/PSP remake, the franchise is far from milked.
 

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I say, screw Square Enix. But i also say, hail Deus Ex. So now I am confused and will cry myself to sleep since I don't know whether to like this game or not.
 

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Ya but making it casual wank like FO3,Oblivion and Bioshock is not the way to do it..... these are not casual games and have no business being watered down damnit!!
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The only reason I don't openly despise what Squeenix is doing here (simply on principle) is that they are actually letting Eidos do the game.

If Squeenix had required any of their core studios to work on Deus Ex, it would be doomed from the word 'Go', since they have proven incapable of releasing a single good game in the last 7 years.

I mean, we saw what happened the last time they named something as a "Key Franchise". We got the clusterfuck of rampant idiocy that was the FF7 Compilation.
 

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Smart and handsome people have alarm bells. My smart and handsome alarm bells are ringing and so should yours, unless you're not smart and handsome. Are you?

The point that should concern us is not the implication of a 'cash cow' because as Shamus Young said on his Bobby Kotick article, this is what is expected from a CEO it's just that smart(and handsome) CEOs(not Kotick) don't say it in public no matter who their audience is. If Shigsy was given the top seat at Nintendo(it's been a long time coming), can you imagine he'd ever talk about any game in these terms? Of course even in his senior design role he thinks about it, but all public statements for him are about the game and making it good.

What should concern us is that Wada has indicated there will be Deus Ex(not real Deus Ex though, that's like saying that Matthew Broderick atrocity was a real Godzilla film) games after Human Revolution. This is a fatal flaw in the games business that has a terrible effect on the game development itself. If they're going to make more than one, then there's no reason for them to make Human Revolution as good as a Deus Ex game should be because then they have to do as good as that with every game that follows to avoid a repeat of Invisible War. Ken Levine if you remember was very tight-lipped about sequels to Bioshock and stayed away from Bioshock 2; his own Bioshock sequel has only been revealed very suddenly with little indication he was ever working on it before a couple of weeks ago. If I was working on Human Revolution now(which I'm not because I'm an actual PC player who would have played any of the great RPGs beforehand and known what it's about) I would despair at Wada's words to the extent that I'd consider quitting immediately. Because if I make a far less than perfect game on purpose I'd be worthless and if I did make that near-perfect game I would probably never top that.

Deus Ex was pure win because it was one self-contained vision of brilliance. Now we know and so does it's development team: Human Revolution won't be.
 

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bojac6 said:
And because the first one was so good, I will buy them. Even if the next nine years of Deus Ex games suck, I will buy the one that comes out in the tenth year.

Does that make me a consumer whore?
Something I like to name, the Call of Duty effect.
 

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This sounds like another risky investment. The new Dues Ex will only get plus X sales due to fan of the previous games looking for some kind of nostalgia or same degree of fun. Besides that they've been pitching it like any other big game; you know all the media, books, interviews etc. What I don't like is that they want another ten years of Dues Ex. The company's going to hurt if the first game tanks, or even if it breaks even. If they are already planning a Dues Ex "another project" that means a lot of cash, not to mention developers time. Then if the game doesn't do well, they'll pull the plug and same money.
 

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Thank you Square Enix, I've already seen how you handle your "key IP's". That recent MMO effort was especially pleasing.

I wouldn't trust SE's directors and managerial staff with a roadkill, much less with managing a decent western franchise.
 

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So now now that the squeenix monkeys haven't a clue how to handle Final Fantasy (or anything else), they're going to pimp out Deus Ex until it becomes the shallow moronic fanboi fapfest that final fantasy now is.
 

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I really hope Square Enix can do FPS better than they can do RPGs. Because FF14 wasn't really a hit. It's embarrassing to see them fail that bad.
 

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thats "ok" news as long as they dont change the art style and "feel" of deus ex.....still they should work on a new thief or maybe just maybe a new legacy of kain....
 

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You have to stoke fires if you want their flames to burn hot, not let it burn as a fading memory in the consumers minds, squeenix is a rich enough company they have no excuse waiting to make a new game. If this game flops, which I am expecting it will a} because off ff13+14+FM evolved just setting my favorite series back a decade, and b} The whole industry more and more seems to be set on note meeting hype or expectations.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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As long as they stay just publishers. And please don't make Deus Ex on yearly basis. I love me some more Deus Ex, but only if they're quality.