Star trek: Enterprise

[EeveeElectro]

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Exactly, that's what I think. About anything really. There's gaping plot holes in games and some book series all the time but as long as you think it's entertaining and fun I don't see why people get their knickers in a twist.
There are some Star Trek fans who pick up on everything though, even the small inconsistency and hate the series for it.

 

[Kenjitsuka]

I really liked it, start to finish.
I was amazed it got axed so soon.

And if you didn't like the last few eps; that's what happens when a series suddenly has to stop... compact all of their remaining mysteries in a far too short timespan

 

[Justanewguy]

also I liked enterprise... their uniforms looked much less ridiculous and, on the whole, it was less corny than a lot of the past series episodes.. also Archer struck me as much more of a military type commander where as Janeway was just a gushy mess and Picard an armchair pogue

For the record, Picard was a diplomat prior to becoming a Captain and Janeway was a Scientist. Neither were military, and that was actually to reinforce the idea that the Federation, and even Star Fleet, is an instrument of peace, not war.

Really, I think poor Gene is rolling over in his grave over how they've handled Star Trek recently. Star Trek isn't about the military. Sure the ships and crews have to defend themselves, but the point is about exploration and new meetings, not a shoot 'em. Star Trek was once described as a "Wagon Train to the Stars" and nowadays I think it's more of a "Gunsmoke." If you want to know what Star Trek is truly about, go watch "The Cage" which was the first pilot for Star Trek. It's about Captain Pike and his crew of the Enterprise, rather than Kirk, but it's a lot more intellectually oriented. In all honesty, Gene poured himself into that episode, and it really is the essence of what Trek was supposed to be.

 

[dickywebster]

Its actually the only one i own all of on dvd, mostly cause it was on sale but meh.
I personally like it but yeah the whole storyline where they spend ages messing around looking for the xindi does drag on a bit, but i also found the time war thing kinda silly at some points.
But the ending did seem kinda sudden, like it just got cut off, also apparently is muddles the continuity a little but ive never looked it up so idk, but im told it kinda compresses or swaps around a lot of already established history.
But Ive always found that to be a bad habit of prequels generally.
I dont see why it gets such a bad rep as the only series i can place higher than it is voyager but thats just cause im a borg fan.

 

[kickyourass]

I'm not sure what happened with Enterprise, it started out GREAT, sure there were hiccups now and then, like having an Enterprise before the first Enterprise (They say that Kirk's was the very first Enterprise like a bazillion times), but the first few seasons rocked. Then hit a few problems about half way through the 2nd season (If I'm remembering correctly) and then Xindi came along and it kinda just came apart.

With all the others you could come in pretty much anywhere and generally know what's going on, but during the original run of the Xindi Arc, I missed like 2 episodes, and I could not for the life of me tell you what happened in the next one. During that story arc it had a feeling of "If you want to know what's going on here, you need to watch the previous 30 episodes", and for me, that's not Star Trek, that's a soap opera with lasers.

Combine that with the fact that Earth apperently had this enormous war that nearly wiped Humans off the face of the universe and NONE OF IT IS EVER MENTIONED AGAIN, Enterprise becomes a bit hard to sit through.

 

[Justanewguy]

The Cage may represent the tiniest portion of the IP, but it also represents the only portion of the IP that was never touched by NBC's changes. It featured an ensemble cast (a staple of later series, and even late TOS), and a focus on exploration and peaceful resolutions over fighting. A vast majority of TOS episodes are resolved peacefully, very few are the enemies "killed." Want another example? Devil in the Dark, where the Horta turns out to be a protective mother. A Piece of the Action, where Kirk turns himself into a "Boss" to bring peace to a world of Gangsters. The Trouble with Tribbles, which arguably should've turned into a shoot out between the Klingons and Federation.

So few Star Trek episodes were solved with violence. In most episodes violence tended to complicate matters. The crew of the Enterprise was willing to fight if necessary (Balance of Terror is an excellent "fight" episode), but would attempt any other option first, and that was first shown in "The Cage" (rather than "Where No Man has gone Before" which ultimately was a "fight" episode). The Cage is Trek at it's purest, and when you boil down the Original Series, you see that it ultimately boils down to the Cage as well, just bogged down in some places. TNG was similar in that it's essence was not fighting, but peace.

Voyager and DS9 were great series, and Voyager is far and away one of my favorites (probably just behind TOS), but both failed to focus on the peace over war concept. Arguably DS9's war was inevitable, and represents the part of the Federation that's willing to fight when forced, but Voyager really became a Voyager vs the Borg, which was cool but wasn't the pure Trek of TOS or even TNG. Voyager had an excuse too, in that they were trapped and weren't really representing the Federation specifically, and even then managed to promote peace in many episodes (I think the one called "Void" is a good example, but I can't really recall the name). Enterprise threw all explanations away and focused on action and fighting in many episodes. They really didn't get back to the whole "Peace over Fighting" concept until the final season.

 

[WayOutThere]

sfdebris can fill you in. Though he reviews more of Voyager than Enterprise.

 

[Mike Richards]

You can actually fix a lot of the continuity problems once you take the Temporal Cold War into account. Think about it, you have the original timeline of everything from TOS through Voyager, then history is altered and the NX-01 gets created. It even explains why things in 11 looked so different, it was carrying on from this new timeline even before Nero ever appeared.

I will admit it had some trouble with episode plots, a lot of them just weren't very interesting. But everything else about it, characters, world, tech, everything was so much more real and entertaining then any of the previous series. If they had just had the stories in the first two seasons to back it up it would have been perfect, but it's still my favorite of the bunch

Edit- I'll totally agree the theme song sucked beyond the telling of it. Shame too, cause visually it was the best opening they'd done.

 

[funguy2121]

Ok i liked the series i tought it was quite good (though the xindi arc did drag on a bit), but anyway a lot of people disliked it and i don't really understand. If you disiked it can you tell me why.

I'm not sure what that pop-masquerading-as-rock-n-roll tune was over the credits, but it sounded like one of those leave him alone, he heard this song right after 9-11 tunes. Also, Scott Bakula? Scott Bakula. Let's look at who his predecessors were.

Shatner. Shakespearean actor. Shakespearean actor. The fiery Katheryn Mulgrew. And then the Quantum Leap guy? Really?

"Uh, Sam, Ziggy says that this show sucks and you should jump ship before the network drops it."

From what I've seen, it just seems like the Star Trek idea machine ran out of steam and the suits did a Thelma and Louise and said "let's just keep goin'!"

 

[Casual Shinji]

Only good thing about it was Jolene Blalock, also way too much time travel.

That was the only reason I watched it, too.

I couldn't help but wanting to fistbump Trip for shacking up with her.

 

[targren]

I gave up on it when the entire plot became based on the absolute worst abused cliche in the ST universe (time travel) combined with the thinly veiled 9/11 propaganda (the toasting of Florida)

 

[cookyy2k]

I think it was good but wasn't given time to "find" itself. If you look at the first 4 seasons of any star trek franchise other than TOS they're a hell of a lot weaker than their later seasons.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Personally, I think it's because the more you looked at Bakula, the more you wished he was doing more Quantum Leap instead!

QFT. There was also that atrociously bad theme.

And when Scott Bakula and Dean Stockwell met up, and then Dean pulled a communicator out - you could almost hear the squeal from a thousand nerds.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

I must admit it's one of the ST series which I have watched very little of. What I saw though, was not great, but still bearable. It looked better than Voyager, which pissed me off to no end quite a lot.

 

[Scarim Coral]

I thought it was a decent show (I did used to watch Voyager and abit of DP9 althought I'm not a Star Trek fan.

 

[oooooooooooooooooooooooooo]

Well, I've watched up to the second episode of series 3, and it's still pretty good. Just starting the Xindi arc, so I can't say much about that, but I find it feels much more real. The transporter is a hellishly dangerous thing to use, and there's much less technobabble.

The Xindi ark is, in my opinion, definitely the best part of Enterprise.

Seasons 1 and 2 were fun and season 4 was a little disappointing compared to season 3, which was very good. The only thing I really disliked about the whole series was the horrible final episode.

Edit: actually no, the titles music can be added to things I disliked as it was awful. I also was no particularly fond of the 'In a mirror darkly' mini-ark.

 

[Aisaku]

Personally, I think it's because the more you looked at Bakula, the more you wished he was doing more Quantum Leap instead!

QFT. There was also that atrociously bad theme.

And when Scott Bakula and Dean Stockwell met up, and then Dean pulled a communicator out - you could almost hear the squeal from a thousand nerds.

Agreed. As implausible as more Quantum Leap may be yes, I still hold some hope.

And why linger on Enterprise? There's been rumors of a new series in a pipeline.

 

[cookyy2k]

Personally, I think it's because the more you looked at Bakula, the more you wished he was doing more Quantum Leap instead!

QFT. There was also that atrociously bad theme.

And when Scott Bakula and Dean Stockwell met up, and then Dean pulled a communicator out - you could almost hear the squeal from a thousand nerds.

Agreed. As implausible as more Quantum Leap may be yes, I still hold some hope.

And why linger on Enterprise? There's been rumors of a new series in a pipeline.

There was talk of a quantum leap movie in which they finished it off with him finally getting home, what ever happened to that?

Edit: well their is still talk of it, at least there was in Jan http://sciencefictionworld.com/films/science-fiction-films/699-scott-bakula-and-dean-stockwell-to-cameo-in-quantum-leap-movie.html

 

[Gaiseric]

It's the only Star Trek series that I've found interesting enough to watch consistently and unlike the other series there wasn't a crew member I found annoying. And some of the alien characters I thought were awesome (the Andorian commander and Klingon defense attorney come to mind).

Also it might be because I like Scott Bakula(Quantum Leap!).

And I should point out that I'm not a huge fan of Star Trek so any continuity problems went completely unnoticed by me.

 

[Gaiseric]

There was talk of a quantum leap movie in which they finished it off with him finally getting home, what ever happened to that?

Edit: well their is still talk of it, at least there was in Jan http://sciencefictionworld.com/films/science-fiction-films/699-scott-bakula-and-dean-stockwell-to-cameo-in-quantum-leap-movie.html

Cool.

Thanks, I hadn't heard they might do a movie.