Star Trek Game "Emotionally Hurt" J.J. Abrams

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Saelune

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Movie games fail because they are not made as legitimate games, rehash the plot of the movie, and are just cash outs. I think movies and games can work well together, but you have to make the games as real games...and its better they enhance the movie, by maybe being a prequal or sequal to the movie, or happening as the movie goes, but not showing the movie itself. Ofcourse if you have to rehash the plot, being a good fun game helps. Goldeneye was fun depsite being the movie's plot, that I now get excited when I watch Goldeneye and Bond gets in the tank, or fights Janus on what became the "cradle" level.

Also dont whine like a fool. I can understand a bad game upsetting you JJ, but I highly doubt it hurt the movie at all.

Movie Title: The Video Game = Auto fail.
 

tangoprime

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Just let me have another Bridge Commander or Birth of the Federation please. That is all.
 

Metalrocks

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Mr.Pandah said:
I liked the movie. A lot. Sucks to be me I guess.
lol, your not alone. i enjoyed it as well. much more then the first one.
i think my father would enjoy it as well since he grew up with the original. he dint mind the first one either. the reboot i mean.
 

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Is he asking Valve to make games off his movies, or make movies off Valve's games?
I mean, if he's okay with the game taking 5 years to come out after the movie, Valve is the company to go to.
 

Space commando 75

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Hey at least the game had a good trailer even if it was Shatner fighting the Gorn. It was more than the movie had. Also stay the hell away from valve the last thing there games need is lens flares.
 

Ticklefist

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I would like to think that Valve realizes Abrams' star is falling. The dude's just a few years away from receiving Affleck/Damon levels of ridicule.
 

RJ Dalton

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Well good, because his movie emotionally hurt me.
If, by "emotionally hurt" you mean "Pissed me right off!"
 

Duffeknol

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I liked Into Darkness a whole lot. It was a great Star Wars movie. I can't wait til he actually makes a Star Wars movie.
 

Sanunes

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The problem I am seeing with this post is he thinks his "mystery box" is a perfectly fine approach to movie making and looking for other reasons to justify why his movie got negative feedback. I have no problem with people liking the movie, but before he starts pointing fingers maybe he should listen to what people were saying about the movie. After having a discussion with a friend over the weekend I came to the realization that I disliked Star Trek Into Darkness for the same reason why I disliked Man of Steel, both movies are movies where they are trying to show the audience what they want to see, but have a poor story behind it to explain what is going on.
 

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AldUK said:
Hey let's all insult JJ Abrams some more because Movie Bob told us he sucks!

That's what's cool on The Escapist right?

Not independent thought, oh no... Can't have that.
Or we're hating because Into Darkness was a fucking terrible film made by a presumptuous hack who doesn't know what he's doing as well as thinking he does. But no, if people agree, it's because they're too lazy to form a different opinion.

Three cheers for contrarian idiots, may we never live without them!
 

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Phrozenflame500 said:
A Star Trek game, made by Valve?

Intriguing...
I was thinking the same thing.

One thing to keep in mind, though: don't make it a shooter. Make it an exploration-focused RPG in both first and third person. And... put some god damned effort into the story (and don't let anyone else dictate it, VALVe). As well as this, put effort into the ship, it's components, how it flies around space, and how it works (as in X delivers energy to Y, wires damaged -> wires need to be repaired, not x% damage to ship hull, Y needs to be repaired).

As for a Portal movie... No, please no. Half-Life movie sounds intriguing too, just not directed by Abrams - though I might even like it, given my incredibly bad taste in movies.

EDIT: Forgot one thing for the VALVe Star Trek game: make the protagonist talk (and give us some options as to his gender, would you?). A mute protagonist will not work in this kind of game.
 

redknightalex

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I'm failing to see how a game based upon a movie impacted movie sales negatively. It was #1 at the Box Office for quite a while, was it not? Was it not hyped up for years? Didn't we all know the "big surprise"?

I bet half of the audience for Into Darkness had no idea there was a game and maybe only 20% had actually played it. Abrams, I think you have how the game industry works a tad backwards.

Also, stay away from Tomb Raider and Uncharted please. I don't want you even thinking about directing those. (Think about it: lens flares in TR? Yeah, no)
 

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Ok J.J. the game hurt you, we get it. It was the cause of all the bad things surrounding your little butt of a movie. You were in no way at fault. Glad that's settled.

Now get back to work adding lens flares and Ewok Jedi to the new Star Wars Films. Make it so. DOH! I mean, Punch it Chewie!
 

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He is obviously not familiar with video games. Everyone knows movie-games are awful. Except goldeneye... but that was just a fluke.
 

Playful Pony

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But... I don't want them to ruin the delicious mystery of the Portal games. Unless Abrams just plans to not open the box that is, or have the mystery be really shitty, predictable and boring... Well the first Star Trek movie was reasonably entertaining I guess, I had fun watching it. I'm not a fan of the series at all, and I haven't seen the second one because the first one didn't interest me enough that I wanted to spend money on a sequel.

Don't blame a shitty game with poor sales for whatever failings you feel your movie had though...
 

Lightknight

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Abrams went to Valve? Wow... he at least gets it.

Mycroft Holmes said:
He is obviously not familiar with video games. Everyone knows movie-games are awful. Except goldeneye... but that was just a fluke.
Depends on the source material and scope of the game. If it's just meant to mirror the movie then it is usually pretty bad as a game. But if it's just using the universe and the characters (optional) then it can be quite good depending on the quality of said universe.
 

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Anything that's based on something else needs to be able to stand on its own merits
Lol, coming from the guy that basically took characters, settings and in fact an entire scene from the second Star Trek movie and then inserted them to zero effect in to HIS second Star Trek movie.
 

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You know, there's actually never even been a good Star Trek game. You'd think that with like... 40+ years to do it, at least one good one would have come out.

Elite Force was not good. :p