Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Writer Returns for Episode VII
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What they should be doing is filming Heir to the Empire, to be followed by Dark Force Rising and The Last Command. The stories are already written, they're excellent, and Grand Admiral Thrawn is the best Star Wars villain of all time.
Since there's no way in hell they're going to do that, however, I'll most likely pass.
Since there's no way in hell they're going to do that, however, I'll most likely pass.
I for one welcome our glistening white X-Wings, shimmering white Star Destroyers, the "OH GAWD I'M BLIND" whiter than ever Storm Troopers, and Wookies that will just be guys in leather jackets with goatees. Let's face it, they didn't give this over to JJ because they didn't see how he's rebooted the classics.
Spat up a little.RJ Dalton said:
Generic Hollywood handjob of a compliment. Abrams has been known for a lot of things. Reboots. Retcons. Rip-offs. Lens flares. Sorytelling isn't one of them.
Well considering JJ Abrams is probably one of the biggest examples of what I like to call 'bandwagon hate' on the internet, I still have hope for this movie. From what it wounds like I'm guessing that Arndt probably did the story for the film and Abrams and Kasdan are using that to write the actual screenplay, which would make sense because one, that is VERY common (in fact that is one of the things that happened when Arndt wrote Toy Story 3, just with reversed roles), and two if Ardnt is working on more Star Wars films its a possability they are taking over and he is choosing to start working on the story for the next film, its possible he is of the mindset of 'OK I'm done with part one, now time to start moving on to part two and leave the rest of it to these guys'.
Either way, considering the gigantic amounts of money on the table here (this movie is literally potentially worth billions, either by reigniting a worldwide interest in Star Wars for years to come or by making people completely give up hope on the series and making the entire purchase of Lucas Film a waste of money) and considering Disney's stellar accusation of Marvel Films, I'm sure they know well enough now that if they don't bring a quality product to the table they might as well not come to the table at all, but only time will tell.
Also, Abrams wtf dude when are you gonna offer me my God damned cameo role?!?!
Either way, considering the gigantic amounts of money on the table here (this movie is literally potentially worth billions, either by reigniting a worldwide interest in Star Wars for years to come or by making people completely give up hope on the series and making the entire purchase of Lucas Film a waste of money) and considering Disney's stellar accusation of Marvel Films, I'm sure they know well enough now that if they don't bring a quality product to the table they might as well not come to the table at all, but only time will tell.
Also, Abrams wtf dude when are you gonna offer me my God damned cameo role?!?!
New Star Wars will earn billions regardless of how bad or good it will be. There are lots of people who will go and see it just because it's star wars. SW fans are the most inconsistent and hypocritical group of people on our planet, not counting video gamers.Billy D Williams said:
As for the treatment of the source material, well I'm guessing J.J will do anything to please the almighty model consumer. His Star Trek went full retard ignoring everything that made the show good in favour of pleasing the blockbuster crowd. And we can't say anything because his decisions are dictated by the needs of the market and market is currently dominated by people with short attention span and low tolerance for thinking, sad but true. Western Civilization FTW.
You mean to say it gives you...a new hope?MrBaskerville said:
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Sorry.
On topic, on one hand I'm pretty excited that Kasdan is involved with the writing, especially since Empire is my favorite. But Abrams is one of the writers too? Eh...I just...I don't know
I mean I enjoyed the Star Trek movies reasonably enough but I'd rather he not be involved with the script..
1) Hes mostly a producer/director not a writer.RJ Dalton said:
2) He was around for like half of the first season of lost before disappearing to go do other projects. And his only credits are co-writing the pilot and the first episode of season 3. So no one can really blame him for Lost going crazy and petering out at the end.
3) I thought Super 8 was a good movie, and it is the project he has had the most creative control over.
4) He's at least partially responsible for this:
Which is one of the best opening sequences of any movie.
To be honest, I don't think JJ can be as bad a Lucas, so at least it will be better than the prequels.
The major problem I had with his Star Trek reboots, it that he tried to make it an action movie and not the cerebral show that deals with morality and science.
Star Wars is more of an action movie than Star Trek, so really all he has to do is not have any lenses flare or "Apple store ships" and have fun and interesting characters.
Also I'd like for them to try and keep with the EU for the most part, because if they get the Solo-Skywalker kids wrong I'll be disappointed.
The major problem I had with his Star Trek reboots, it that he tried to make it an action movie and not the cerebral show that deals with morality and science.
Star Wars is more of an action movie than Star Trek, so really all he has to do is not have any lenses flare or "Apple store ships" and have fun and interesting characters.
Also I'd like for them to try and keep with the EU for the most part, because if they get the Solo-Skywalker kids wrong I'll be disappointed.
While absolutely none of this is 'new' news by any means, I guess it is nice to see it officially stated. The more of the original team they can get back together the better.
The best thing about Arndt being on this project is that he is the person most responsible for calling Lucas out on BS. Empire was the movie Lucas hated the most and it was largely due to how vocal the crew was when he tried to add in stupid things or push it in a bad direction. Maybe they can pull off the same "Lets make our own good movie while the leads are over there moping" stunt. I agree though, great movies don't happen JUST because of one visionary, it's when the whole team understands the vision and pitches in together.RJ Dalton said:
I have to agree with you. His Star Trek movies were a horrible wreck which is odd, because the "movies" were the best parts about Star Trek before he came along. (Abrams = c-c-c-combo breaker!)RJ Dalton said:
In the spirit of, "I want to believe", I will totally watch the damn movie. However, after the Phantom Menace(+) debacle I don't see myself quivering with geek excitement for these new attempts to revive this setting. As far as Star Wars "movies" go, I feel like it was complete with Return Of The Jedi and continued nicely through books, comics and fan films.
Jaina Solo did get trained by Boba Fett, but not to become a bounty hunter. She took the training to kill her brother, Jacen, who had gone to the dark side and become Darth Cadeus. Boba was only more than happy to help train one of Han Solo's kids to kill another of Han Solo's kids. Especially seeing as how Jacen (Darth Cadeus) interrogated his daughter to death. You dont do that to Boba, and walk away.Kalezian said:CriticalMiss said:
Well, there is a huge expanded universe for them to use.
I mean, didn't Han and Leia's daughter go off and get trained by Bobba Fett in one book and become a really bad ass bounty hunter?
but knowing how the series has gone, we can expect everyone to be a Jedi or Sith [or just use force powers altogether], big bad is someone painfully obvious, and.....
and.....
Oh, and Ewoks were the real enemy.
You thought they were cute and cuddly?
that is the face of pure evil.
He eats your tears.....
Back to the thread, I think this is FANTASTIC news. Kasdan is who needs to be doing this, anyway. He helped craft Empire, for petes sake, and that one is the best of the bunch!
Its a well regarded fact that better movies tend to make more money (if you really need a comparison look at Skyfall's profits VS. Quantum of Solace), therefore if the new Star Wars movie is good it will probably make more money than if it was bad, but even more important if its good people will start becoming a lot more interested in the series and want to watch more movies, buy more toys, more collectibles, more Bobba Fett PJs, etc.james.sponge said:
Also, I'd respond to the second half of your comment but considering you ended your comment with what, xenophobia? I guess xenophobia works as it is used for anyone that is foreign or different, so yes because you concluded with xenophobia I know right now anything I say will be pointless because your not going to listen to a word I say on the matter so I guess I'll just say good day.
What he hated so much about it was all the back-and-forth between scripting, others then coming in and re-scripting, preproduction debates, and any quips from the cast on having to do EXACTLY what he wanted. Unfortunately most of the 'proof' is all word of mouth from the production crews, but here's an article detailing how he hated directing in general, and how the crew of Empire in particular gave him a hard time.RJ Dalton said:
(http://acculturated.com/2012/10/31/george-lucas-just-saved-star-wars-by-firing-george-lucas/)