AccursedT- see you space cowboy
- Jun 6, 2013
The prequels had some really ambitious ideas, but the execution and writing were awful, and the tone was all over the place. Lucas couldn't decide if he wanted to make a serious art piece about downfall of democracy, or a simple action adventure story meant to sell merchandise to fans and children. What we got was a half assed attempt at both. There were some interesting concepts, but they were ruined because the films didn't know what they wanted to be. In the end they were too dark and complex for children, but too silly and commercialized to be some great art piece.Orga777 said:Well. What I gather from all that is that it is still better than the insulting and mishandled Prequel Trilogy. I will take more of the same over... that... any day of the week.Fox12 said:You know, I recall an interview with Alan Moore, where he said that fans were probably not the best people to write a character they enjoyed. There's certainly nothing wrong with with being a fan of something, but if a person was an obessive Spider-Man fan as a kid, and he grows up to write Spider-Man, then he's probably not going to be an objective writer. He's not going to write a work of fiction that is a story in itself, or introduce new ideas, he's going to pay reverent homage to a plot line that's now 20 years old, and that many of his readers are unaware of. The youngsters who read his work will likely grow to do the same, and the story will build a sense of reverence for itself. The problem is that, over time, this becomes rather incestuous, since you stop bringing in outside influences. And, just like real life, over time the incest begins to mutate the result into something a little... Weird.
Miyazaki made the same point about the modern anime market, since the people currently making anime are people who only watch anime or read manga.
I think they made a really good point, and I think that's the main reason I hated episode 7. It had just as many plot holes as the prequels, and I think people will realize that once the excitement wears off, and it's able to gestate in their mind a little bit. But for me it's cardinal sin is that it's totally derivative, and self agrandizing. I'm not sure people understand quite yet how unhealthy that is for the franchise.
Of course, I haven't seen the movie yet. I was waiting for the general reaction and to learn more about the plot. I will be seeing it some time soon. However, I think people claiming it is the best movie ever are kidding themselves. Everything I gathered is that this thing MIGHT be a bit better than Jedi, but that is as far as I will go with the praise. It most certainly isn't better than A New Hope or Empire. It is the same thing with Jurassic World. Sure, it is better than the beyond garbage Lost World and JP3, but it still isn't THAT good a film, and is so much weaker than the original that it still seems like a pointless addition to the series.
I think The Force Awakens knows precisely what it wants to be, which is good. However, it seems predominently interested in selling toys and merchandise, which is an Abrams trademark, so it comes off as rather shallow and derivative. It's a marketing vehicle, and isn't really interested in being an excellent film in its own right.