Star Wars: The Old Republic Gets Dreamy with Operation Nightmare

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Star Wars: The Old Republic Gets Dreamy with Operation Nightmare

New update adds Kell Dragon gear, guild updates, and twelve bosses to the Star Wars MMO.


Star Wars: The Old Republic, after getting chummy with [a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/previews/10255-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Rise-of-the-Hutt-Cartel-Preview]the Hutts[/a] a few months ago, is now looking to get a bit Lovecraftian. The new update is called [a href=http://www.swtor.com/gameupdates/operation-nightmare]Operation Nightmare[/a], which sounds like the least inspiring name for a military operation ever. The update comes in two parts. Part one is currently live, with the second one to follow soon. Operation Nightmare will add rare new gear, a new crafting system, updates to guild bonuses, and lots of new baddies to kill.

The first part, Terror From Beyond, introduces the majority of the new updates, and, presumably, terrors. As the site proudly proclaims, "the fight to seize control of the Gree Hypergate will leave you gasping for breath as you battle the five main bosses, now amped up to challenge even the most skilled group of players!" The new Kell Dragon gear set is being introduced as well.

Part two, Legions of Scum and Villainy, seems to scale back the terror in favor of good, old-fashioned crime. According to the blurb, "Defeating the Hutt Cartel's ruthless mercenaries and beasts will require more coordination than ever before". That might not sound quite as exciting as terrible terrors from beyond, but it also comes with an Elite Kell Dragon set to acquire, so your work is never quite done. Since these new challenges are level 55, players will have to own the Rise of the Hutt Cartel digital expansion to make use of the new level cap.

More details can be found on the [a href=http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20130612]SWTOR developer blog[/a].

Source: [a href=http://www.swtor.com/gameupdates/operation-nightmare]Star Wars: The Old Republic Blog[/a]

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As a player, I like the increase of the guild bonus exp. :) Perfect timing since I have rested exp, and a 3 hour exp boost. I need to get to 55!
 

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Korten12 said:
As a player, I like the increase of the guild bonus exp. :) Perfect timing since I have rested exp, and a 3 hour exp boost. I need to get to 55!
I don't quite get all the XP boosts tbh. Nowadays I'm usually level 55 at the end of Voss.
When ToR launched I reached 50 somewhere in the middle of Corellia. So overall I think that the leveling speed increased considerably and that there is no further need to boost the XP income.

neppakyo said:
People still play this shitty game? o_O
Hater gonna hate.
 

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Ishigami said:
Korten12 said:
As a player, I like the increase of the guild bonus exp. :) Perfect timing since I have rested exp, and a 3 hour exp boost. I need to get to 55!
I don't quite get all the XP boosts tbh. Nowadays I'm usually level 55 at the end of Voss.
When ToR launched I reached 50 somewhere in the middle of Corellia. So overall I think that the leveling speed increased considerably and that there is no further need to boost the XP income.

neppakyo said:
People still play this shitty game? o_O
Hater gonna hate.
Well I don't buy XP boosts, but I get them from quests. Like completing the Tatooine Bonus series gave me a 3 hour XP boost.
 

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Yea I know. It was just a general observation that levelling in SW:ToR is already incredible fast so I don't get why BW is increasing the XP gain again by increasing the guild bonus.
 

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neppakyo said:
Ishigami said:
neppakyo said:
People still play this shitty game? o_O
Hater gonna hate.
Nah, hater gunna play Guild War 2, Rift and other better MMO's.

captcha: telsa coil *uses it to zap the EAware away*
I understand how horrible SWTOR is in certain aspects, especially the F2P, but i will take SWTORS story-based MMO over every mmo nowadays. When the elder scrolls online comes out and final fantasy 14 arrives to the public, i hope i can replace it. Until then, i get my MMO-story appetite fed well from SWTOR.

As for rift/WoWforthehardcoreyeahright, and the meh story of guild wars 2 and the way too obsessed pvp community, enjoy it. Im just personally tired of medieval MMO's with little to no good story. Sorry.
 

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If Rift or GW2 are so much better than SW:ToR why is it that they can't really gain more players than the dreadful Tortanic?
Why did Rift turn F2P just a few days ago?
If there are so many better MMOs* out there why is ToR apparently still among the 3 most played MMOs* in EU and NA?
Let's face it: SW:ToR is actually not so bad.
You don't like it and that is okay. Many did not but apparently something of estimated 700k people in NA and EU do seem to like it at least a bit.

Regarding FFXIV: Don't bet on it.
Unless you belong to a certain very special group of people this won't be the MMO you are looking for. Neither the story nor the presentation or gameplay will elevate this one into the realm of something recommendable.
Trust me on this one.

While Elder Scrolls Online could be fun I personally am betting on WildStar. If you haven't checked that out you may want to take a look: http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/

*Only considering traditional MMOs. Top 3 afaik are: WoW, GW2 and SW:ToR.
 

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Because a name on a franchise can carry alot of bad in a game. It's why instead of making original movies alot of companies will just reuse old licensing because they know the name alone is what will attract people. Also It's their opinion the game sucks and it's also your opinion the game isn't. so saying "let's face it" falls so hard on it's face since you're acting like your opinion is based off fact when we KNOW people would play star wars and ignore all the bad because it's star wars. You know that big franchise that produces alot of bad stuff but still make millions only through people loving lightsabers and jedis?
 

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neppakyo said:
Ishigami said:
neppakyo said:
People still play this shitty game? o_O
Hater gonna hate.
Nah, hater gunna play Guild War 2, Rift and other better MMO's.

captcha: telsa coil *uses it to zap the EAware away*
I play the Old Republic, but I also play GW2. :/ Don't need to be a hater to play other MMO's.
 

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Ishigami said:
Let's face it: SW:ToR is actually not so bad.
Yes it is, and I don't care who plays what, popularity is meaningless to me. Stupid P2P price model not withstanding, there is A LOT of things that bother me about this game:

Stat bars to measure things that don't need measuring.

Meaningless and pointless choices that might as well not be there.

Outdated game mechanics, even for an MMO.

"meh" graphics that are somehow still computer intensive.

And a host of nit picks of which I've since forgotten.
 

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Devoneaux said:
Ishigami said:
Let's face it: SW:ToR is actually not so bad.
Yes it is, and I don't care who plays what, popularity is meaningless to me. Stupid P2P price model not withstanding, there is A LOT of things that bother me about this game:

Stat bars to measure things that don't need measuring.

Meaningless and pointless choices that might as well not be there.

Outdated game mechanics, even for an MMO.

"meh" graphics that are somehow still computer intensive.

And a host of nit picks of which I've since forgotten.
I dont mind paying for a mmo I will commit time to. As a huge story pursuer such as myself, those story choices do matter here and there in terms of uncovering lore that may have been missed due to a dark or light choice. Not to mention said alignments give you access to powerful armors or weapons restricted to light or dark. I understand most of the choices dont directly benefit you, but itd the story and lore thats a award for me.

As for the graphics, id say they are really ok and suit the kotor universe. If my swtor looked like tera I myself would not want to play it. It does not represent kotor.

In closing, you seem not to have played this in pursuit of lore and story, or even to experience or see some key events in the star wars universe. If thats true, id be surprised if you liked it for its gameplay overall.

I'll give wild star a try certainly. Im a open armed gamer.
 

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Ishigami said:
Yea I know. It was just a general observation that levelling in SW:ToR is already incredible fast so I don't get why BW is increasing the XP gain again by increasing the guild bonus.
The bigger bonus is the reputation bonus, letting you get neat stuff from reputation vendors quicker. Also, when running through a play through of your half dozenth character for the story through fairly familiar places, it's awesome to be able to easily outlevel and curb-stomp the piss out of stuff in your story arc.
 

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Ishigami said:
If Rift or GW2 are so much better than SW:ToR why is it that they can't really gain more players than the dreadful Tortanic?

If there are so many better MMOs* out there why is ToR apparently still among the 3 most played MMOs* in EU and NA?


SWTOR's population capped at around 2 million, took a nosedive a few months after its release, and it's never returned to those heights since. Most current estimates place it at less than one million players.

It's incredibly likely that both GW2 and Runescape have comparable numbers to SWTOR, if not higher (both are estimated at around a million or more), and that's just two games I can name offhand. Aion's definitely got them beat in the East as well as globally, and I'm sure there are others (like TERA). SWTOR is not a "top three" game any more. They were in the opening few months of release, but they're not now.

And frankly the fact that SWTOR can't manage a higher player count than it has is not a good thing, considering it's powered by a much larger fanbase than most of the games that it's competing with.

Let's face it: SW:ToR is actually not so bad.
SWTOR is, at best, a much more story-driven WoW clone set in deep space with the Star Wars universe as a backdrop.

At worst, it's a dramatically poor misuse of both the license and the franchise it's based within, and the final nail in the coffin for the KOTOR series.

If you like it, fine, fair enough. I have no problem with you liking something I don't.

But stop spouting off about how wonderful it is and how it's so much better than all these other games simply because there happen to be people who play it. It's really not. It's a mediocre game that's made and managed by a terrible company, one that many people outright refuse to support (and with darn good reason). It's hardly what you'd call "original", and its one defining feature is its story. I like a good story as much as the next guy but I expect more than story out of my video games, otherwise games like Heavy Rain would be the greatest video games of all time.

Why did Rift turn F2P just a few days ago?
SWTOR beat them to it, so I'm not sure what your argument is. That F2P means your game has failed? Then I guess SWTOR has failed, too, so your entire argument dismisses itself. And it took Rift a hell of a lot longer to "fail" than SWTOR: Rift's been going for other two years prior to the release of F2P, and it only took SWTOR about six months to make the swap. So if we're going to argue that F2P = failure, there is no question that SWTOR failed much, much harder than any of the games you've named thus far.

Of course, it's stupid to argue that F2P is failure to begin with.

Fun fact: most companies make far more money after going F2P than they ever made as a subscription game. Why? More players, which means you can sell your item shop stuff to a larger group of people. Companies aren't switching to F2P because they "failed", they do it because it's more profitable.

Also: Rift's F2P is actually a genuine F2P model that provides you with access to basically everything, where SWTOR's F2P model is an absolute rip-off meant to essentially harass you into paying them money (as most of the gaming community's critics have pointed out). GW2, similarly, has a more genuine F2P model than SWTOR....and it's not even a F2P game. It's pretty damning when SWTOR's own website advertisements make it clear just how many features you're sacrificing if you want to play for free: http://www.swtor.com/free/features

So basically, chill your jets with the fanboi garbage. It's getting as old as the TOR-bashers.
 

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You realise he said its "not so bad" right? He wasn't spouting how wonderful it is or even praising it. Its just not so bad. Did I forget the definition or something?

I Admit though, if it wasnt related to kotor, I wouldn't be playing it.