Stealing From the Next Generation

[Elesar]

I hate to ask, but why are so many people fond of the A Clockwork orange film? The novels were much better. In-fact to this day I still dislike the American who decided to cut out the final chapter of the book and leave it to were Alex is still the same old douche bag he was before. So why is you all enjoy reading a book/watching of a movie with no actual Character development?

Well my love of the film A Clockwork Orange was essentially irrelevant to my point (my point being that certain stories need dark content), but given that Stanley Kubrick is both my inspiration and my favorite director, I can't let that go unchallenged, so I suppose I should respond.

Primarily (and ignoring for the moment that at the time Mr. Kubrick was living in Britain), the main reason the final chapter was "Cut" was because when he wrote the screenplay he had only read the American version which did not feature the 21st chapter. The second problem, and much more relevant, is I felt the final chapter actually detracted from the story. It felt forced, like the author had decided to make his point at the expense of a coherent character. There was no reason for him to randomly decide to give up violence, except that the author wanted to make his point. Plus, from a purely filmmaking standpoint, there is no reason to continue it past the menacing voice over in the last scene, and adding something past that in a visual medium would have detracted from the impact

The reason I'm so fond of A Clockwork Orange in film form is that it is so effective at what it is. It shows violence in brutal and realistic form with the intention of shocking it's audience, and in that respect it is a rousing success. I was bored throughout the entirety of the Saw series and A Clockwork Orange scared me more than any other film I have ever seen. So that's why I love it. You're entitled to your opinion, but that's mine, in brief.

 

[rmx687]

Good read!

but I like Todd McFarlane!

 

[hyperdrachen]

Stealing From the Next Generation

Geeks grow up, but that doesn't mean the things they love should.

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It doesn't mean it can't either. You hated Revenge of the Fallen yes? I don't suppose the giggling 8 year olds every time the most disgusting line of dialogue was uttered brought you any comfort? You know, the kids that thought Mudflap and Skidz were funny? Transformers went from pureley episodic stories to sometimes 2 and 3 part stories and finally got a full blown animated movie. That was growing with its fans. A series that survives long enough escapes it's quick buck market and finds a loyal fanbase. Many things until they reach this point are a goddamn commericial for "buy the new thing".

Transformers is a good example cause it has done both for many years successfully. New series come out pretty often, they're catered to the youth of thier time. But just as Batman doesn't owe me growing up, the series doesn't owe us Robin, or any other manner of Funning up for that matter. The Dark Knight series is darker and that works, but I love the series because of its good writing, cast, cinematography and story. Its a well done movie. Thier creative vision doesn't lend itself well to shoehorning in a little kid that knows acrobatics fighting crime in his colorful circus outfit.

If the creators want to make thier characters for kids forever then they're welcome to it, but that's a fickle audience not everyone wants to play for. Look how many new series come out for kids every year. Do they really need Transformers, Superman, and Wolverine too? I mean come on kids are stupid, they're currently paying 3 bucks a pop for packs of rubber bands that are vaguely shaped like animals, and thier dumber parents aren't slapping them.

 

[gjendemsjo]

I like Mario the way he is now, but Bowser is a joke and i think that he should be more threatening because that would make him more satisfying to beat, and princess Peach should definetely be more affectionate because that would make it more of a prize to complete the game. She's just like Bowser, a joke, an excuse for Nintendo to make another Mario game. I would rather see her be killed by Bowser and the game consists of Mario going after revenge. But then again, that would be a tad stupid.

 

[Robyrt]

Note that kid-friendly source material doesn't necessarily mean rainbows and butterflies. The '90s cartoons of X-Men and Batman tackled mature themes head-on while still being pitched to the Saturday-morning-preteen audience segment. By the end of episode 2 of X-Men, one X-Man is tortured, one is dead, and one is in jail, and Jubilee's parents have disowned her. And they still had room to spend 30 minutes fighting giant robots.

 

[Kenji_03]

I think his "Case and point" is summed up in this fan-made Flash. It's more of a "Michael Bay's Super Mario Bros", a so-hard-core-it's-gay remake of the game's elements.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/527393

Now tell me, do you want your parents, friends, and (most importantly) Kids having to grow up with Mario being like this, or would you rather them get (more or less) the same Mario you grew up with?