Steam To Get Steamy With an Uncensored Yuri Game - Update
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You do realize that Fox News is not the government, right? They don't have the power to just burst into Valve's offices with machine guns and loudly demand that they pull a game from their store.Deathfish15 said:
Steam has never been in the habit of banning games on account of "boobles"; otherwise The Witcher and Grand Theft Auto V (and possibly even IV? I'm not acquainted because the PC version is buggery on toast) would never have gotten on there. I have a hunch that any anime games on Steam that have been censored were either more explicit than that or were submitted in already-censored form by their creators out of paranoia or controversy-courting.Devieus said:
Sorry but I only hand out my street cred points to people who namedrop G-String, Grisaia, Umineko No Naku Koro Ni, Comyu or Sharin no Kuni, don't you know. In terms of proper eroge it'll be Monster Girl Quest which gives you double points for the namedrop because that game is so good it makes all other eroge i've played since look so fucking terrible T_TNeutralDrow said:
I see all these people saying that it is impossible for porn to be art or whatever and I have an urge to ***** at them to play MGQ so they can see how wrong they were.
I think I lucked out, playing my own superlatively-good eroge (Yume Miru Kusuri) so early in my career. Very few things since then have compared to Aeka's route (pretty much just Kana: Little Sister and Fal's route in Symphonic Rain), but I don't really require them to.The Wykydtron said:
Incidentally, of those, only played Grisaia so far (and only partway into one route), but the others are on the playlist. Except Comyu, I forget what that is.
I dunno, everything I hear about MGQ makes it sound a little too rapey for my tastes.
But yeah, annoys me, too. Didn't mention it to that guy who got banned, but I wasn't offended so much by his insinuation about other people masturbating to these games, but that he somehow believed that was mutually exclusive to reading for the story. There's a movie quote that encompasses that.
Previously, games with nudity tended to only be allowed if they were action games completely or at least mostly unconcerned with romance, like Bioware games or God of War/Dante's Inferno. (I'm sure there's semantics regarding "mostly" but you should understand my point).Smooth Operator said:
This is, to my knowledge, the first ROMANCE game on Steam that doesn't censor anything. That's a pretty significant distinction, but not a big step. I highly doubt they'll go much further than this. It's a romance VN, not a porn VN, as fuzzy as a distinction as it is.
If a book store has a 'romance' section, why shouldn't Steam? There's a line between written smut and written romance, and so too is there a line between porn games and romance games.
Holy shit.
Which reminds me. Can we have an Adult section on Steam? It'd be better than mingling all these sex and non-sex titles into one giant Steam Soup.
Also Muv-luv, Hanachirasu, and a bunch of other shit you probably haven't heard about. Gnerk.
Which reminds me. Can we have an Adult section on Steam? It'd be better than mingling all these sex and non-sex titles into one giant Steam Soup.
Can I get some points for finishing all of those? Except Comyu, I just started that one.The Wykydtron said:
Also Muv-luv, Hanachirasu, and a bunch of other shit you probably haven't heard about. Gnerk.
The late, great Tom Lehrer had a song that I think encompasses my feelings on this one:
Although they're gonna need a stronger age check system if they go whole hog with adult content if only to stop themselves getting sued. Although I can't think of one that wouldn't also be SUPER invasive or ask a bit much of you.
Although they're gonna need a stronger age check system if they go whole hog with adult content if only to stop themselves getting sued. Although I can't think of one that wouldn't also be SUPER invasive or ask a bit much of you.
Yo that "one route" in Grisaia best be Based Girl Michiru or i'm going to have to deduct some street cred from you.NeutralDrow said:
MGQ is rapey as fuck, except only if you lose surprisingly enough. The combat in that game is very well designed and it's not like some other eroge I could name where you literally have to grind deaths to improve your stats to even stand a chance.
[sub][sub]Fuckin' Violated Hero...[/sub][/sub]
In MGQ it's very possible to finish the game without seeing anything other than the ten or so mandatory sex scenes and almost all of those are with the main heroine of the game. To put it into context, there's probably over 150 sex scenes in the game and i'm not even taking into account multiple possible scenes from one single enemy.
I think that's how the story gets away with being so lighthearted and comedic in a sort of "i'm not having sex with you for your own good" way, that and how cutting a monster to ribbons doesn't kill her, it seals her for a little while cuz magic sword. I mean Luka going on about how he wants peace between monsters and humans while cutting a bloody swathe through them would be a little disingenuous. When you beat an area, it somehow turns into a happy ending no matter what. It's a parody/celebration of typical JRPG tropes while being a fantastic JRPG on its own merits.
It has a great sense of humour too, one good thing about losing is Illias and her Evaluation Meetings where she rants at you for losing, gives you tips about how to win, gives you one final insult then respawns you back at the fight because fuck reason, she's a goddess so she can do that.
...because she's the only one worth dropping partway through? I started to like her a lot in the Common Route, honestly.The Wykydtron said:
No, I'm currently stalled partway through Amane's route. Had to take one break after hitting the sex scenes from her perspective, because learning why she's holding herself so sexually available was badly unnerving. Came back, and then went on hiatus after a cute scene where she and Yuuji are discussing their future together, including the off-chance if Amane got pregnant. Since Yuuji's response was perfect ("Well, I have enough savings to support us until I can apply for a desk job..."), and it's been implied to me that things rapidly go to hell pretty soon (something involving the words "angelic howl," which unlike "would you kindly" I can't even begin to guess the significance of).
Not that I'm not going back to the game at some point. Chiruchiru, Sachi, and Nega-squid are all waiting. I just have trouble walking into stories where I know things are going to get terrible for the characters. Same principle that kept me away from Muv-Luv, I'm depressed enough as is without seeking it out in my escapist works.
That actually sounds like a drastically-improved version of Raidy (or maybe a slightly-improved Sengoku Rance), and if you're really not penalized in any way for not getting any Bad Ends, the rest of it sounds pretty appealing. I think you've swung me.
Yeah, Grisaia is like that. Hook them in with a legitimately hilarious Common Route then slap them in the face with maximum feels. I really liked Michiru's Route, Sachi and Yumiko take a close second and third place. I could never get through the amount of sex scenes in Amane's Route but I hear it gets good and a friend completed Makina's Route first before I started it and it totally broke him so I have all of the details from him. Fuckin' Frontowingu making the adorable loli character the most emotionally scarring one...NeutralDrow said:
And yeah I hope you do try MGQ. I keep meaning to continue with Sengoku Rance too but I think there's a little bit too much game in there. I'm so sure it's taking the piss out of itself though, god that H scene music [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GauhWG340dI] was so out of nowhere. I could not believe my ears. Then the honest to god electric guitar solo kicks in at 20 seconds and I actually started laughing.
I can't be the only person who thought this was about the character Yuri from Red Alert 2. It would certainly give new meaning to the phrase "be one with Yuri" if it was.
Like it or not pedophilia bothers people more than murder, and simply put Hatred was too over the top, and too similar to other games like "Postal" to really be taken that seriously.MHR said:
That said my counter-argument to things like this is that "teen on teen" sex is fine, let's be honest it's part of growing up and learning about life and there are songs, movies, books, etc... about it already. Teens trying to "get it on" and eventually succeeding is the central premise of most "high school experience" movies such as "Porky's" "American Pie", and countless others. Not to mention it's all over "teenage super mutant" comics TV Dramas, and everything else. Love it or hate it, it's out there. Heck, "teens humping in the woods" is perhaps the #1 stereotypical horror movie victim trope.
I'd be more concerned if the game was legitimizing adult relationships with teens, which you see in a lot of Japanese media, with say teachers banging their students, or businessmen keeping a harem of "Lolis" or whatever. I think age difference is important. While a teen can handle a relationship with another teen a lot of the time, when it comes down to a relationship with an adult the playing field is not even, and it can play all kinds of havoc.
As a final point, the idea of a teenager getting it on with a ghost is no worse than say Buffy The Vampire slayer getting it on with a Vampire. Consider she hadn't graduated High School when she had that whole plotline where she banged Angel, it cost him his soul, and she had to stop him. That's about as mainstream as you can get, and it didn't raise many eyebrows, even if I believe David Boreanaz was a lot older than Sarah Michelle Geller at the time (I can't remember what he ages were, I read it somewhere once alleging it was signifigant) and the ages of the characters were even greater. But again I feel this is tolerable even with the above taboo no just because it's fantasy, but because it's using "super hero logic" that isn't legitimizing anything in reality. Basically the laws don't account for things that don't exist in real life like super heroes carrying an emotional burden far beyond their years, and who have superhuman strength and fighting ability. No real girl is anything like Buffy Summers, and thus the laws are not written to accommodate what might be acceptable under those circumstances.... and to the credit of the show, it did not end well, so you can't exactly consider it an endorsement either.
The point here is that I doubt this graphic novel will be a big deal. On the other hand if they bring out some visual novel that is grounded in reality and involves a student involved in an relationship with a teacher, then I think there would be more problems, and rightfully so.
Besides unless I really misunderstand the point of the game, I'm surprised there hasn't been more "Ick, Necrophilia". I suppose that doesn't matter as long as the ghost manifests as being perfectly human. Sort of like how most people tend to overlook in romance novels that Vampires are actually ambulatory corpses.
Huh.
Well, that's neat.
Hopefully it'll pave a better path for Visual Novels being released over West, and on Steam.
That is very uncertain though, especially with what is happening with Steam recently.
As for the Visual Novel itself, eh, I'll pass, I'm not a yuri fan.
Now if they get Visual Novels like Kara no Shoujo, then they can call me.
Well, that's neat.
Hopefully it'll pave a better path for Visual Novels being released over West, and on Steam.
That is very uncertain though, especially with what is happening with Steam recently.
As for the Visual Novel itself, eh, I'll pass, I'm not a yuri fan.
Now if they get Visual Novels like Kara no Shoujo, then they can call me.
It's their baby - they want boobies, they can allow boobies, I think they should just allow everything but hey it's their baby as I said
I've played a few some are good some are poor, throw them all up and let them thrive on their own merits and not, pardon the pun. their titillation
I've played a few some are good some are poor, throw them all up and let them thrive on their own merits and not, pardon the pun. their titillation