Nah I think I'll still keep with windows for a good few years valve, I'm happy where I am thanks.
SteamOS Now Available For Download
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In case you have failed to notice SteamOS comes with steam built in just like Android, IOS and Windows comes with their respective shops. The clue is in the title.Cecilo said:
"SteamOS is designed to run Steam and Steam games. It also provides a desktop mode which can run regular Linux applications." Well that was obvious, but still sucks. The only reason to even consider installing this thing on my PC would be if it runs games with a lot better fps than windows.
They should have made the warning label bigger for it and type in big bold comic sans [HEADING=2]PARTITION YOU'RE GOD DAMN HDD[/HEADING]
Even if they'd have done that people still would have installed it over their current OS. I know not everyone has done this before but at least read the instructions if you haven't.
Even if they'd have done that people still would have installed it over their current OS. I know not everyone has done this before but at least read the instructions if you haven't.
The only reason anyone should consider SteamOS or a SteamBox is if they can't handle PC gaming with all it's maintenance, yes for the knowledgeable this is a cakewalk but for a novice hell let's even say my sister who has been using PCs for well over 10 years that is a bucket of mystery she would never go near without having me to fix everything.kasperbbs said:
So when SteamOS is done it may be a gaming for dummies standard, but it isn't now and it sure as hell will not be the more versatile OS.
I'd avoid the entire Hard disk partitioning and just get a second hard disk. Or better yet, use a Virtual Machine like VMWare player and try out the beta first instead of going off and installing it onto a perfectly operable machine. My heart goes out to IT people who have to deal with incompetent users that nuke their computers.Glademaster said:
Personally, unless someone is 100% sure of the stability of an OS and that the installer includes utilities for setting up a proper boot loader (good old GRUB2), I'd never install it outside of a virtual machine. Even then, I'd make sure I have my windows or main OS backed up using Shadow Protect 5 or at least Windows Backup. Don't trust Acronis with anything other than basic file recovery for bad installs.
Speaking of which, I still need to get rid of Acronis and get my Shadow Protect 5 running.
I'm not saying i set up the whole thing without reading the "Nvidia Only" right in the middle of the system reqs. But uh.... i may have done that.
Is it just me or has that particular middle finger been flipped at us more and more frequently lately...
Frustrating
Is it just me or has that particular middle finger been flipped at us more and more frequently lately...
Frustrating
Right on! I'll boot up my virtual machine and give this new OS a bash, it can live next to windows, android and Ubuntu 
well, I mean, it is Linux. It's what I believe is referred to as a "kernel" of Linux. Like Unbuntu or Unix.MmmFiber said:
It amazes me how many people don't understand that this is the beta for a full fledged OS, and it isn't some sort of evil scheme designed to destroy PC gaming.
I've seen some guys saying valve is trying to make a walled garden etc etc, but they are using an open source linux distro to do it? Please that would be like making a walled garden for your house and then forgetting to install any gates and then leaving 1 side open to the street.
I've seen some guys saying valve is trying to make a walled garden etc etc, but they are using an open source linux distro to do it? Please that would be like making a walled garden for your house and then forgetting to install any gates and then leaving 1 side open to the street.
4 gigs of ram and an Nvidia graphics card seem a little steep for OS requirements. I'm curious to see how smooth this will run on decent computers. I would test the distro on my netbook but I don't meet those specifications and with the ram requirements I won't be able to run it in virtual box on my main pc
the 4 gig ram requirement isnt for the OS, linux runs on less than 500Mb of ram (often lower than 250), whereas windows uses a whopping 1 to 1.5 gigs. Its a requirement because 4 gigs of ram is their basic requirement for a steam machine low end model. You need that much ram to be able to play the steam library, because if you arent using steamOS for gaming, WTF are you doing?PoolCleaningRobot said:
I think I have a spare 500gb hard drive lying around. Might be willing to give this bad boy a try.
Ok, so this whole thing have confused me in several ways.
First of all, why are people complaining that it is nothing more than a regular linux OS bundled and more deeply integrated with steam? Isn't that exactly what they said it would be already in the initial announcement?
Second, what is up with those requirements? Like, how come it actually needs 500 GB just to install, or 1 TB if you use the "easy" way (described as such in their guides)?
I can understand things like requiring nvidia for the simple reason that this is in BETA and they decided to release it as such before making sure AMD works properly though.
Third, why does it delete everything on the computer? Every other OS I know of can share the computer with other operatingsystems if you just make sure to setup a dualboot by using, say, GRUB. All that an OS actually should need to clean is the partition you install it in, right?
I dont think I will download it anytime soon, but when it is in a more finished state I will probably do so.
Sounds to me like it could possible end up as a perfectly fine alternative to other linux-based OS's such as ubuntu, and I actually suspect it will turn out to be better in the end, as people move to it and improve it themselves. Not to mention valve will probably continue updating it as well.
So when I need some sort of linux on my laptop for university purposes I might end up trying out a dual-boot with steamOS rather than kubuntu... If they just remove that 500 GB hdd requirement.
First of all, why are people complaining that it is nothing more than a regular linux OS bundled and more deeply integrated with steam? Isn't that exactly what they said it would be already in the initial announcement?
Second, what is up with those requirements? Like, how come it actually needs 500 GB just to install, or 1 TB if you use the "easy" way (described as such in their guides)?
I can understand things like requiring nvidia for the simple reason that this is in BETA and they decided to release it as such before making sure AMD works properly though.
Third, why does it delete everything on the computer? Every other OS I know of can share the computer with other operatingsystems if you just make sure to setup a dualboot by using, say, GRUB. All that an OS actually should need to clean is the partition you install it in, right?
I dont think I will download it anytime soon, but when it is in a more finished state I will probably do so.
Sounds to me like it could possible end up as a perfectly fine alternative to other linux-based OS's such as ubuntu, and I actually suspect it will turn out to be better in the end, as people move to it and improve it themselves. Not to mention valve will probably continue updating it as well.
So when I need some sort of linux on my laptop for university purposes I might end up trying out a dual-boot with steamOS rather than kubuntu... If they just remove that 500 GB hdd requirement.
I'm guessing that the HDD and RAM requirements are because this is intended for playing games on. The OS itself won't need that much space or RAM, but games are getting bigger and bigger.
Think about it, 500GB HDD usually translates to about 460GB usable. Take off 50GB(pulling a number out of my ass. Probably anywhere between 10-100GB) for the OS and swap files, and that leaves 400GB. How big was the last COD? 40GB or something silly? That drive is going to fill up fast.
The requirements are high for an OS because what's the point of a gaming OS if your computer isn't fast enough to run the damn games?
Think about it, 500GB HDD usually translates to about 460GB usable. Take off 50GB(pulling a number out of my ass. Probably anywhere between 10-100GB) for the OS and swap files, and that leaves 400GB. How big was the last COD? 40GB or something silly? That drive is going to fill up fast.
The requirements are high for an OS because what's the point of a gaming OS if your computer isn't fast enough to run the damn games?
@Deathlyphil: I don't think the size requirement of 500 GB is going to stay. Think about the possibility to save games on other partitions as well. Your OS partition doesn't need to be the size of 500 GB. And what's with people that want to use an SSD? I think they just have it in place for now, because they did not have the time yet to make partitioning, multi-partition-management and boot manager work alright (just a guess though).
I won't test it, but probably will try it out in a more advanced state, maybe when it is out of beta and I would be reinstalling Linux Mint for further support.
I won't test it, but probably will try it out in a more advanced state, maybe when it is out of beta and I would be reinstalling Linux Mint for further support.
Pfff, your such a hard drive.Res Plus said:
On another note:
This has my official blah. Im willing to bet this instance just a temporary thing with the beta, but it had better not be a recurring trend.
Any "optimizations" they make for this will be equally available for Linux. Linux is the way to go, not SteamOS. SteamOS is a gaming OS only and it doesnt, in any ways, substitute to windows or linux.Ultratwinkie said: