Stellar Blade (formally Project Eve) - Korean Sci-Fi Bayonetta/Nier: Automata/Sekiro Edition

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Ok, Nier: Automata- loved that game! And y'all know I'm not one to bandwagon with prevailing critical opinion given how critical I am of pretty much all of the recent critical darlings but Nier was just so fun! Sometimes you're running around with action combat, and sometimes you're in a bullet hell, and a couple of times you're like a spaceship? 2D, 3D, 2.5D- the game is a trip, man. Cute singing robots and big sand robots and funny trash can robots. And, yeah, the multiple endings thing is a trip (that wouldn't work if the art and gameplay weren' engaging). Why do people like this game? 'Cause it's fun and weird and cool. Do y'all even like video games?
No game is so special that it aught to be liked be everyone. Someone can like Life is Strange or even Heavy Rain, and not like Devil May Cry 5 and Sekiro, and still justifiably claim to like videogames.
 

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Which makes all the "the horny/titillations is making the woke liberals mad" fuck heads all the more pathetic. They couldn't give a shit about the actual gameplay, mechanics, soundtrack, or level design. They just assume everyone not in their pathetic little echo chamber will be just as pathetic and miserable as their sorry biatch asses.
This is exactly why people pushed back against all these stupid journalists that complained about Eve's appearance. The arguments were purely superficial and only based on surface level appearances of a character for a game in which these people had no fucking clue what it was about or how that sexy character would even be portayed. Yet when people defended her design, everyone acused us of just wanting to "fap" or called us pigs. But we push back because we know the arguments about appearances all always ignorant and superficial mean to spark nothing but controversy, or even worse these "wokey" jackasses only do it because they have been given the power to do so and they know if they scream loud enough the company will change something ANYTHING to bend the knee at least a little bit.

In reality they don't actually give a shit about Stellar Blade, they just want the rush of making a billion dollar company bend to them at least a little bit.
 
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This is exactly why people pushed back against all these stupid journalists that complained about Eve's appearance.
It's dumb either way, and last I checked not many journalists complained about Eve's appearance. Most seemed indifferent, and Easy Allies are all in. I've seen far more and worse from the alt right fuckheads getting overly upset and "offended" for "not having enough women like Eve" "in their games", even though there's plenty of hot women in gaming. Also, Eve's appearance is the least of the character's issues. As Sphere pointed out, Eve has the blandest personality in all of of gaming protag history, that really doesn't shine until about 80% in the game. I know T & A is a thing, but at least put some personality behind them if you're going to do that. Even DOA and Ninja Gaiden got this right.

Yet when people defended her design, everyone acused us of just wanting to "fap" or called us pigs. But we push back because we know the arguments about appearances all always ignorant and superficial mean to spark nothing but controversy, or even worse these "wokey" jackasses only do it because they have been given the power to do so and they know if they scream loud enough the company will change something ANYTHING to bend the knee at least a little bit.
Which makes you part of the problem and even bigger problem. I don't know why you're saying "we". You might want to be buddy buddy with the sexist and racist jack ass supporting this game for the shallowest of reasons (I know not all, but a majority of them doing this are and happily threat and harass anyone not under that pathetic standards of beauty), but I want no part in it. Even if I got interested in the game, neither of the sides will be in my head space. I am playing the game for me. Not you, not the journalist who have problem or don't have a problem, and I sure as fuck not doing it for the ultra conservatives/alt-right pretending to be fans and being co-opting parasitic leeches that wormed their way into nerd culture. They are far worse than a few bitchy journalists no one cares about, but those the latter fools I just mentioned. This makes your fight and pathetic "push back", even more silly and stupid, because the game is doing fine by the people playing it or interested for the right reasons. You admitted to even hating this game, and not liking it, so you just contradicted yourself and it shouldn't even matter to you. I am not dragging this out and all I have to say on the matter.
 
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No game is so special that it aught to be liked be everyone. Someone can like Life is Strange or even Heavy Rain, and not like Devil May Cry 5 and Sekiro, and still justifiably claim to like videogames.
And I'd be the last person to suggest that anyone has to like anything. My reaction is the opposite- how can anyone like Nier lol?!

Both are silly. The tone was as if Nier is objectively bad and everyone liking it is kidding themselves.
 

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This is exactly why people pushed back against all these stupid journalists that complained about Eve's appearance. The arguments were purely superficial and only based on surface level appearances of a character for a game in which these people had no fucking clue what it was about or how that sexy character would even be portayed. Yet when people defended her design, everyone acused us of just wanting to "fap" or called us pigs. But we push back because we know the arguments about appearances all always ignorant and superficial mean to spark nothing but controversy, or even worse these "wokey" jackasses only do it because they have been given the power to do so and they know if they scream loud enough the company will change something ANYTHING to bend the knee at least a little bit.

In reality they don't actually give a shit about Stellar Blade, they just want the rush of making a billion dollar company bend to them at least a little bit.
Man.. my reaction to Eve's appearance was to laugh. From what I saw that was more like the skeptical reaction. Not some SJW hairy-armpit-feminazi wokepatrol. I'm sure you can dig up isolated examples of the latter but generally it felt like all of us who don't go online to yell fake politics at each other just thought that game looked kinda dumb for that, as is the case with all the hentai-baiting anime porn high school bullshit. And I'm gonna continue laughing at it because it's 2024 ffs and I can't believe we're still doing this shit.
 

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Man.. my reaction to Eve's appearance was to laugh. From what I saw that was more like the skeptical reaction. Not some SJW hairy-armpit-feminazi wokepatrol. I'm sure you can dig up isolated examples of the latter but generally it felt like all of us who don't go online to yell fake politics at each other just thought that game looked kinda dumb for that, as is the case with all the hentai-baiting anime porn high school bullshit. And I'm gonna continue laughing at it because it's 2024 ffs and I can't believe we're still doing this shit.
Somebody who actually gets it. Thank you for telling the truth.
 
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And I'd be the last person to suggest that anyone has to like anything. My reaction is the opposite- how can anyone like Nier lol?!

Both are silly. The tone was as if Nier is objectively bad and everyone liking it is kidding themselves.
Both can also be true. There's certainly things about Nier: Automata that I can see why people like it, but it's not too hard to see why people might also kinda hate it.
 
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I kinda feel sorry for the devs. Did they ask for the far right to become the standard bearer for their game? It always strikes me as kinda offensive if you make something and the worst people out there flock to it.
 

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I kinda feel sorry for the devs. Did they ask for the far right to become the standard bearer for their game? It always strikes me as kinda offensive if you make something and the worst people out there flock to it.
I believe they just wanted to make an action game with a hot girl and pay homage to Nier and nothing more.
 

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Women not like her also exist. Why can't it be normal and good to wanna depict them in games without people screaming "woke" and "SBI ruining muh games"?
The hypocrisy of it generally because for as much as people argue regarding how sexy women are fetishized by "gooners" and "porn addicts" many of the "diverse women" people are pushing for to be added to gaming are due to people fetishizing certain characteristics in women and it not being a widely known about enough fetish for people to call them out on doing in when people will make jokes about Tarantino deliberately doing it just because it's his fetish.

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It's the hypocrisy of it and trying to pretend it's some higher more moralistic thing and not just because they have a sessions wrestling fetish (and yes that is the name of it you're welcome internet)
 

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It's a play on the N word, where ending with a soft a is usually reclaimed, at least by Black people and usually fine in certain contexts, and ending it with a hard R sound, which usually means some racist shit is going down.

Failing Hard Rock Cafe signs are funny because they are accidentally referring to something naughty. It's one of those jokes that can really only be made by accident, like other accidentally naughty signs
Actually Hard R could be a play on old film ratings systems

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I'd imagine this was more the intended joke where hard R is content very close to AO but not actually fully there.



Like I said, specific beauty standards. Not all women in games need to abide by them. And even when they do, like in the case of Aloy, Mary-Jane, the new Lara Croft design, and the main character in Star Wars: Outlaws, they're still labeled uggoes.

And the whole 'you don't actually play games' argument can just fall off a cliff. The people crying 'ugly on purpose' all play games, I'm sure. That doesn't make people who never play games and call them out for being full of shit any less wrong.

Which characters would those be? The ones that look like shit?
Have some original Aloy concept art

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Female characters are being made less attractive compared to the actor models in many cases.

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And how is 'plain' ugly? And like you said, it's not exclussive to her, yet she certainly got picked out as the ugly one compared to Peter and Harry, huh? And what about Black Cat and Rio, who look perfectly fine? You'd think what with that agenda Insomniac was pushing they wouldn't forget to make them into a couple of hags. Yet they didn't. Almost like reactionaries are either jumping at shadows or farming outrage.

I think I'll just play games I actually like, but if you want to suffer through a game because some people hate it, be my guest. I'm staying the fuck away from Starfield and Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League no matter how pissed off idiots are at PROUNOUNS or Sweet Baby Inc.
Black Cat is bi / lesbian in the game so they're allowed to be sexy

You should have started with that in the first place instead of talking like you're speaking for everybody else and assumed so. Still doesn't change the fact that you got more people on the crazy Ultra right side complaining about "ugly or intentionally ugly" female characters compared to the people complaining about a super bottle. Most people are in different at worse when it comes to supermodel characters. The two sides of this thing is bologna though and barely ever comes to that. Conversations over cuz I've already made my case in point a thousand times over.


That game makes the early Oneechanbara games look good or decent by comparison.


And that's because 90% of them are crap. And there are people that still have not learned from this.
I counter with opening the the cursed chamber



Part of this goes into what she probably would have touched on if she ever did the "Fighting fucks toys"

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I kinda feel sorry for the devs. Did they ask for the far right to become the standard bearer for their game? It always strikes me as kinda offensive if you make something and the worst people out there flock to it.
This feels like The Snydercut dialogues all over again "People who I don't like want a think so I won't want it and also it's bad no matter what".

You can't control your audience and so many cartoon and shipping fandoms have seen people driven to suicide over shit but the worst people are those now deemed right wing for not falling in line with the present incarnation of the left?

Like I'm sorry but some-one was driven to suicide by the Hazbin Hotel fandom

Again the Hazbin Hotel fandom drove one of their own to suicide

 

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I believe they just wanted to make an action game with a hot girl and pay homage to Nier and nothing more.
Which is why those "fans" who are there for the shallowest reasons and only using this game like a soapbox/steppingstone like they did with Alita, are parasitic leeches that need to fuck off and get kicked in the nuts.

Have some original Aloy concept art
Aloys looks great either way. Not every needs to look like a super model. Especially in a robot apocalypse where beauty products are extremely rare and hard to come by.

Female characters are being made less attractive compared to the actor models in many cases.
Not really. That's you cherry picking with isolated examples. I'll hear nothing else otherwise.

On to actual real stuff and important matters involving the game.


 

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This feels like The Snydercut dialogues all over again "People who I don't like want a think so I won't want it and also it's bad no matter what".
Notice how I didn't express my opinion of the game at all and that the sentiment towards is was more pity then contempt. Rather than not ''liking'' it my post implied the game deserved better
 
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I'd imagine this was more the intended joke where hard R is content very close to AO but not actually fully there.
It was not an intended joke at all, merely some stock graffiti that shows up in multiple places around the world doing an unintended funny
Have some original Aloy concept art
Then they gave her tech wear and muscles to fight robot dinosaurs with. If you think this is "intentionally ugly", you're delusional
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Female characters are being made less attractive compared to the actor models in many cases.
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Maybe people just look different outside of a fucking photoshoot headshot, I dunno
 
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Have some original Aloy concept art

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By this definition everyone was made "ugly on purpose" since the game goes for photorealistic visuals compared to the cartoony concept art. How is the top picture different from the final ingame model other than artstyle? Thin: check. White: check. Young: check. Red hair: check. 🤷‍♂️

Female characters are being made less attractive compared to the actor models in many cases.

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What has been made ugly then? Face shape, eyes, chin, even the eybrows are exactly the same. The only noticable difference is the hair and the nose being slightly thinner. The only thing that you can actually point at that makes the picture on the right look less apealing then the one on the left is the uncanniness; looking lifeless and empty. You know, that thing we used call games with realistic looking characters out for before we got all paranoid about pretty girls being taken away from us. That thing that simply showed developers aren't there yet when it comes to avoiding the pitfalls of photorealism.

And look at that...

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Please, please, PLEASE tell me how this was made ugly on purpose. I fucking dare anyone.
 
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She looks like she could actually fend for herself, instead of being obviously fragile and in need of me to come rescue her (for which I would of course be rewarded with sex).
I mean, you put a pilot jacket on a baby chick and they'll look like they can handle themselves.

The point is that there's nothing that isn't conventionally attractive about this female character. Not a blemish, not a protrusion, nothing. But fucking idiots have lost the ability to recognize the uncanny valley and can only see conspiracy to commit ugly.

To reiterate...

This...

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...is now considered ugly. *sigh* Jesus fucking Christ, I hate gamers.
 
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...is now considered ugly. *sigh* Jesus fucking Christ, I hate gamers.
Most of them making these "complaints" aren't even real gamers. They're parasitic leeches pretending to be fans or gamers. Also, this game is overpriced as fuck, and most of these assholes are complaining about the look of a woman that is not real, and wouldn't be interested in any of them, if she existed in real life.
 
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