Stolen Pixels #230: The History of Civilization, Part 1
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Or Playing as Egypt, fast expanded like crazy and spent all money on Wonders and culture to get up the tech tree as soon as possible.AC10 said:
Wonders have a powerful effect, don't cost a damn thing to maintain and can give you a big boost in early game. Egypt can build wonders 33% faster than other civs (even more with the rigth cultural bonuses) but that's a very specific talent. If Egypt starts in an area without much production then they're not going to get those wonders out no matter how big their bonus is. Other civs have far more reaching and useful abilities. Japan's in particular stands out as crazy overpowered (all their units can attack at full strength no matter how damaged they are, making their archers death on legs). My personal favourite is the Arab empire which gets the unique 'bazaar' which doubles any luxury resources nearby. Kaching.Evilsanta said:
I'm in the middle of a game on an archapeligo map and some of the city placements are just absurd to the point where they die just as fast/easily as America does in the comic.
Got the "seriously?!" achivement on my first playthrough.
I love Civ, and I want to Civ5 to be good too, but the more I play the more I doubt they played or tested the gameplay during development, at all.
Will wait for a mod to fix these flaws, or a patch, because, DAMN. Not fun the least :/
I love Civ, and I want to Civ5 to be good too, but the more I play the more I doubt they played or tested the gameplay during development, at all.
Will wait for a mod to fix these flaws, or a patch, because, DAMN. Not fun the least :/
The real joke of the comic comes when people go play it because of the comments he made.
Songhai walks all over the egyptians with the extra army they've built, and then sits down fatly after getting triple pillage from your rich tombs.
Egypt's biggest perk? A building that makes them EVEN MORE enticing to conquer.
Songhai walks all over the egyptians with the extra army they've built, and then sits down fatly after getting triple pillage from your rich tombs.
Egypt's biggest perk? A building that makes them EVEN MORE enticing to conquer.
Um but I thought Egypt's run as a super power didn't last past the bronze age? Didn't they get crushed by the "sea People", them and the Hittites.
Well i am really getting into civ 5 and the comic strip was funny as.Just time the AI dont is rather random as one time we had a me (england) in as controling europer and america controlling asia.In the middle of stood china that had the middle eats and parts of the surrounding area.To chinese has been a pain in my ass since the start so when the americans said do you want to declare war on china i was up for it.
Sadly my arms wasnt so i pressed the wait 10 turns button and turned my empire quickly into a war machine.I build up and bit quicker than expected so attack on 9 turns and then the americans attack the other side on the 10th.Due to me being clever with which techs i build i have musketeers vs the chinese crossbow troops but even then i was suprised how fast i push through quickly.I snatch up 4 cities and find myself turning up where the americans seem to be loosing to the chinese around bejing there captial.
So i thought better help them out so i wipe them out taking bejing as their last city.Suddenly the americans turn around and say "our allaince is ended as you am too much of a war monger".I was like what? you asked me to help you destroy the chinese and stopped you being counter attacked.It was really weird lol
Sadly my arms wasnt so i pressed the wait 10 turns button and turned my empire quickly into a war machine.I build up and bit quicker than expected so attack on 9 turns and then the americans attack the other side on the 10th.Due to me being clever with which techs i build i have musketeers vs the chinese crossbow troops but even then i was suprised how fast i push through quickly.I snatch up 4 cities and find myself turning up where the americans seem to be loosing to the chinese around bejing there captial.
So i thought better help them out so i wipe them out taking bejing as their last city.Suddenly the americans turn around and say "our allaince is ended as you am too much of a war monger".I was like what? you asked me to help you destroy the chinese and stopped you being counter attacked.It was really weird lol
No, not really. I'm playing as Rome. I usually main Rome because legions always let you pummel and grab a lot for a window of time. Since civ 3 my armies have been mostly legions and catapults. The new inclusion of the ballista seemed tailor made for my style of play no less. "Sweet", I said "legionaries and ballistas should let me pummel everyone in the classical to medieval eras". And they did. But I ran into a problem. War weariness may be out but now you have indestructible capitol cities that are forever miserable and drag down the over-all happiness of your empire. And the bigger they are the less happy they are. Yes there's no war-weariness. Instead you get people that are unhappy forever. Okay, let's build court-houses to curb that. Well court houses take forever to build in the ruined shells of cities that you've created and they're expensive to run. It's pretty easy to wind up watching your massive war machine grind to a halt after killing even a few city-states.H0ncho said:
The more enemy capitols you control the more the unhappiness, the more the unhappiness the slower your cities grow, build, make money and even the worse your soldiers fight. Even roads cost gold now, they never did before, they could only MAKE you gold. Now I'm founding trade routes only to find that the route cost more to run than it makes. It's aggravating. To survive I have to specifically NOT make war. But that's all Legions and Ballistas are good for. And what was war weariness before? You could declare peace then the very next turn start a war with someone else and weariness would be at zero. It was never a deterrent. And this is coming form somebody who has always played with an aggressive military. This new system of un-happiness is a deterrent. At least for the era I'm in. The era that my special units are supposed to be helping me kill things I'm being forced to sit on my hands.
But yes the computer IS psychopathic. They've taken some real steps backwards in respect to the AI from civ 4. Religion was a revolutionary addition to civ, it helped form a great basis for early factions and now it's gone. I liked being able to see the reasons leaders hated or loved me and a nice quick over view for how many turns our deals had left. If i could see "You signed a pact with our enemies -3" it would be a lot more helpful than wondering why some one suddenly hates me.