Stop using TL;DR in the OP.

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Wolfram23

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Seriously, stop. In case you are unfamiliar, TL;DR means "Too Long; Didn't Read". If your own post is too long and you didn't read it, you are some kind of magician since I think by default you've read it as you wrote it.

TL;DR is also a stupid reply to any comment, but that's a different matter...

If you write a long essay as a topic, do not ever write TL;DR. It's called a summary. Write: To summarize, or In summary. This is extremely basic junior high english class stuff. I lose respect for people who right a "TL;DR" instead of a summary in the same way I lose respect for people who write things like "i lik dis u shud too! derp derp".

For discussion, how do you feel about people writing a "too long; didn't read" in their original post? Or for that matter, how about people who reply with it?
 

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Wolfram23 said:
Seriously, stop. In case you are unfamiliar, TL;DR means "Too Long; Didn't Read". If your own post is too long and you didn't read it, you are some kind of magician since I think by default you've read it as you wrote it.

TL;DR is also a stupid reply to any comment, but that's a different matter...

If you write a long essay as a topic, do not ever write TL;DR. It's called a summary. Write: To summarize, or In summary. This is extremely basic junior high english class stuff. I lose respect for people who right a "TL;DR" instead of a summary in the same way I lose respect for people who write things like "i lik dis u shud too! derp derp".

For discussion, how do you feel about people writing a "too long; didn't read" in their original post? Or for that matter, how about people who reply with it?
You used it FOUR TIMES in your OP! You're a monster and a hypocrite! =P
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
You used it FOUR TIMES in your OP! You're a monster and a
Matthew94 said:
tl;dr

I really don't care. It's just for people who would say tl;dr. I think you are just being a bit petty.

Do you get annoyed at those who write lol as they are most likely not laughing out loud?
ROFLMAO! No way!

I do see your point, but TL;DR is a much newer acronym that I would like to nip in the bud. Lol is far too well established, though I still prefer a simple "haha" in many cases.
 

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Wolfram23 said:
BloatedGuppy said:
You used it FOUR TIMES in your OP! You're a monster and a
Matthew94 said:
tl;dr

I really don't care. It's just for people who would say tl;dr. I think you are just being a bit petty.

Do you get annoyed at those who write lol as they are most likely not laughing out loud?
ROFLMAO! No way!

I do see your point, but TL;DR is a much newer acronym that I would like to nip in the bud. Lol is far too well established, though I still prefer a simple "haha" in many cases.

It's not all that new. You're several years too late to nip it in the bud. That said, holy crap, your join date is 2004, you were one of the first people to ever join this site. I've never seen a join date earlier than 2007 until today.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
Wolfram23 said:
BloatedGuppy said:
You used it FOUR TIMES in your OP! You're a monster and a
Matthew94 said:
tl;dr

I really don't care. It's just for people who would say tl;dr. I think you are just being a bit petty.

Do you get annoyed at those who write lol as they are most likely not laughing out loud?
ROFLMAO! No way!

I do see your point, but TL;DR is a much newer acronym that I would like to nip in the bud. Lol is far too well established, though I still prefer a simple "haha" in many cases.

It's not all that new. You're several years too late to nip it in the bud. That said, holy crap, your join date is 2004, you were one of the first people to ever join this site. I've never seen a join date earlier than 2007 until today.
Several years? Really? I think I've only been seeing it around for maybe a year, tops. Either way I feel like a lot of people who use it (as in, using it in an OP) don't quite understand what they're saying. Perhaps I'm a bit of a grammar nazi, though I generally let that kind of thing slide, but something like TL;DR before a summary really nibbles my bits.

And yeah I don't know how I joined in 04. I only remember I heard about this site from a friend who liked Zero Punctuation. I wasn't an active member for a long time.
 

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Basically, you're ok with people putting summaries, but if they use a different phrase instead of "In summary," you "lose respect for" them? That's just absurd....
 

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TL;DR stands for "Too Long; Didn't Read"... as a response.

TL;DR in an OP stands for "TL;DR version" or "So you jackasses don't respond with TL;DR, here's the short version".

I'm almost tired of using this point but, here we go: Have you heard that MTV has shows that have nothing to do with music? I mean, what the hell, MTV stands for Music Television.

TL;DR::)P) Language is silly.
 

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Wolfram23 said:
This is extremely basic junior high english class stuff. I lose respect for people who right a "TL;DR" instead of a summary
The irony.
It is delicious.

It is quite obvious that the implied meaning when writing "Tl;dr" in the OP is "Was the text too long for you to bother reading? Here's the basic gist of it", as opposed to when "Tl;dr" is written in a reply where it means "The text was too long, therefore I did not read it".

It's an accepted use of the expression, the same way "they" is accepted as a gender neutral pronoun.
Not worth getting your panties in a twist over.
 

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It's definitely been around for longer than a few years. It's a bit annoying when the OP purposely puts one into their post, but it can be useful for massive walls of text when someone else does it.
 

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Jonluw said:
Wolfram23 said:
This is extremely basic junior high english class stuff. I lose respect for people who right a "TL;DR" instead of a summary
The irony.
It is delicious.
Hmm the bizarre thing about that is when I hit Edit, it's spelled "write" in the editor window. *shrug*

It is quite obvious that the implied meaning when writing "Tl;dr" in the OP is "Was the text too long for you to bother reading? Here's the basic gist of it", as opposed to when "Tl;dr" is written in a reply where it means "The text was too long, therefore I did not read it".
Which is what Summary means. We don't need to reinvent the wheel here.

It's an accepted use of the expression, the same way "they" is accepted as a gender neutral pronoun.
Well I disagree, obviously. I think it's stupid. Like using "texting language" outside of texts (or even when texting, for that matter, now that we have full keyboards on our phones).
 

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Esotera said:
It's definitely been around for longer than a few years. It's a bit annoying when the OP purposely puts one into their post, but it can be useful for massive walls of text when someone else does it.
Useful, yes. But it's also a bit off when someone with otherwise fine grammar uses it. It's like burping during a public speech.
 

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So this thread is so that you can tell us to say "summary" instead of "TL;DR" ?

Oh noes, woe is I when people are using an expression that's synonymous with the word I want them to use.
 

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Wolfram23 said:
Useful, yes. But it's also a bit off when someone with otherwise fine grammar uses it. It's like burping during a public speech.
If an OP is over 20 lines long, then unless it really interests me, I'll go for the TL;DR. If the OP can't communicate their ideas concisely, then someone else is going to do it for them, or no-one's going to read a wall of text. I'd say the first option is the best.
 

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IamQ said:
So this thread is so that you can tell us to say "summary" instead of "TL;DR" ?

Oh noes, woe is I when people are using an expression that's synonymous with the word I want them to use.
"too long; didn't read" is not synonymous with summary. It's synonymous with "your post is too long and I didn't bother reading the whole thing"
 

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Wolfram23 said:
IamQ said:
So this thread is so that you can tell us to say "summary" instead of "TL;DR" ?

Oh noes, woe is I when people are using an expression that's synonymous with the word I want them to use.
"too long; didn't read" is not synonymous with summary. It's synonymous with "your post is too long and I didn't bother reading the whole thing"
It's all about context. In the context of a reply, then yes, but if it's in the context of the OP, then it means "Here's the short version for those of you who don't care about the details".

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Esotera said:
Wolfram23 said:
Useful, yes. But it's also a bit off when someone with otherwise fine grammar uses it. It's like burping during a public speech.
If an OP is over 20 lines long, then unless it really interests me, I'll go for the TL;DR. If the OP can't communicate their ideas concisely, then someone else is going to do it for them, or no-one's going to read a wall of text. I'd say the first option is the best.
Well I'm not saying we shouldn't have summaries. They obviously are very useful. I just dislike the misuse of TL;DR. If you want to put it as a reply, at least it makes sense. But since I'm specifically talking about the topic's original post, why can't you just write a summary like everybody in the "real world"?

In summation, the misuse of TL;DR as a synonym for summary annoys me. Like people who think "nucular" is a word.
 

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Wolfram23 said:
Esotera said:
Wolfram23 said:
Useful, yes. But it's also a bit off when someone with otherwise fine grammar uses it. It's like burping during a public speech.
If an OP is over 20 lines long, then unless it really interests me, I'll go for the TL;DR. If the OP can't communicate their ideas concisely, then someone else is going to do it for them, or no-one's going to read a wall of text. I'd say the first option is the best.
Well I'm not saying we shouldn't have summaries. They obviously are very useful. I just dislike the misuse of TL;DR. If you want to put it as a reply, at least it makes sense. But since I'm specifically talking about the topic's original post, why can't you just write a summary like everybody in the "real world"?

In summation, the misuse of TL;DR as a synonym for summary annoys me. Like people who think "nucular" is a word.
Wait, so if someone wrote

"[long essay]
If you think this is a case of TL;DR, then read this instead: [short summary]"

then you'd be fine with it?
 

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Wolfram23 said:
Like people who think "nucular" is a word.
The English Language thanks you.
And so do I.

Seriously. It was funny when Bush Jr. or Bush Sr. couldn't get it right, but now people use the word as though it were the real deal...ugh.
 

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dyre said:
Wolfram23 said:
Esotera said:
Wolfram23 said:
Useful, yes. But it's also a bit off when someone with otherwise fine grammar uses it. It's like burping during a public speech.
If an OP is over 20 lines long, then unless it really interests me, I'll go for the TL;DR. If the OP can't communicate their ideas concisely, then someone else is going to do it for them, or no-one's going to read a wall of text. I'd say the first option is the best.
Well I'm not saying we shouldn't have summaries. They obviously are very useful. I just dislike the misuse of TL;DR. If you want to put it as a reply, at least it makes sense. But since I'm specifically talking about the topic's original post, why can't you just write a summary like everybody in the "real world"?

In summation, the misuse of TL;DR as a synonym for summary annoys me. Like people who think "nucular" is a word.
Wait, so if someone wrote

"[long essay]
If you think this is a case of TL;DR, then read this instead: [short summary]"

then you'd be fine with it?
No, though that is marginally better. They should just right "if it's too long, here's a summary" Or simply "In summary,"