Stop using TL;DR in the OP.
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This seems like a pretty silly thing to het annoyed with. TL;DR in themselves are quite useful, at least in my case as I tend to write out some rather lengthy posts and I can understand not everyone wants to read a giant wall to get to my point. It also provides as nice sort of high lighter for said point as some people may blow over the summary and think it's just more of the wall.
So yea, long story short I will still probably use the phrase as I like providing people the quicky version of what may be a very long post. I guess it kinda sucks it annoys you though?
So yea, long story short I will still probably use the phrase as I like providing people the quicky version of what may be a very long post. I guess it kinda sucks it annoys you though?
I think it works just fine, it is a new (?) term which is shorter and funnier than ''summary''
I think your problem is one of these unexplainable bastard errors in our brains that suddenly decides to obsess over one thing which is usually new and alien
I have mentioned mine several times and no one understood wtf i was goin on about
I think your problem is one of these unexplainable bastard errors in our brains that suddenly decides to obsess over one thing which is usually new and alien
I have mentioned mine several times and no one understood wtf i was goin on about
Without TL;DR people might never know just how boring they are. By taking that away from them you are destroying their ability to better themselves.
That's a little petty, to be honest. On the internet, generally when people want a summary, they ask for a TL DR version, or at least in my experience.
Of course, if you ask me, the real problem is the lazy gits who call a paragraph of text "a mega longz life story wal of txt!".
Of course, if you ask me, the real problem is the lazy gits who call a paragraph of text "a mega longz life story wal of txt!".
I always found it hysterical when people would post about 4 sentences then add a TL;DR at the bottom.
If people seriously aren't interested enough to read 4 sentences, I don't think you're attracting the right crowd anyway.
As for longer posts, I don't mind a TL;DR at the bottom, often times I'll read that first to get the gist of the post, see if I'm interested; then read the full thing when I get the chance.
I do however hate it when people use TL;DR as a reply. If it's a topic interesting to you, you'll read it. If it's too long for you, your opinion probably wasn't necessary on the topic in the first place. Although.. walls of text are a whole different can of worms...
If people seriously aren't interested enough to read 4 sentences, I don't think you're attracting the right crowd anyway.
As for longer posts, I don't mind a TL;DR at the bottom, often times I'll read that first to get the gist of the post, see if I'm interested; then read the full thing when I get the chance.
I do however hate it when people use TL;DR as a reply. If it's a topic interesting to you, you'll read it. If it's too long for you, your opinion probably wasn't necessary on the topic in the first place. Although.. walls of text are a whole different can of worms...
' If your own post is too long and you didn't read it, you are some kind of magician since I think by default you've read it as you wrote it.'
Either you are pedantic to the point where you're so far up your own arse that your head is in your throat, or you are very silly indeed.
If they stick TL;DR in their OP it means, "for those of you who will say TL;DR...".
TL;DR: Who gives a shit?
Either you are pedantic to the point where you're so far up your own arse that your head is in your throat, or you are very silly indeed.
If they stick TL;DR in their OP it means, "for those of you who will say TL;DR...".
TL;DR: Who gives a shit?
I tend not to be fond of any chatspeak shorthand... but you might as well get mad at people who substitute "you" with "u" for all the good it does.
...I still pronounce "UR" as "Err" (not as in "to err is human", but as in "I am Ignignokt and this is Err [http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0102770/quotes]") in my head. Really makes it hard to take anyone who uses such shorthand seriously.
example:
In other words: "How do you function?!" [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxChP7oux1E#t=5m05s]
...I still pronounce "UR" as "Err" (not as in "to err is human", but as in "I am Ignignokt and this is Err [http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0102770/quotes]") in my head. Really makes it hard to take anyone who uses such shorthand seriously.
example:
...that took me about 30 seconds to decode, and didn't really say anything beyond subjective generalizations. I realize it was probably a work of parody (or so I hope), but... goddamn. If the quality of our thoughts can only be equivalent to the quality of our language, and that's how we communicate, it's amazing we get anything done.jizzytissue said:
In other words: "How do you function?!" [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxChP7oux1E#t=5m05s]
No.Wolfram23 said:
You are aware reading and writing are two different things? If you write a post then immediately hit "Post" then you have not read it.
Since we are talking about junior high English class, here are your errors fixed:
-"To summarize", or "In summary"
-I lose respect for people who write a "TL;DR"
Writing it in the original post is fine, it is internet forum etiquette to sum up long posts (in the OP or not) with a "TL;DR". People who only post it as a reply are idiots. you're not contributing anything to the thread.
tl;dr Stop trolling.
I don't really see the issue. I especially don't see why a slight gripe with a perfectly acceptable internet phrase deserves an entire thread about it.
I'm usually a massive grammar Nazi, yet I have no problem with it. It's not like it's one of those phrases synonymous with terrible grammar and leet-speak. I've seen both eloquent and borderline-illiterate people use it alike. Yes, "in summation" works just as well, but Tl;dr is now fine too.
Many years ago, people had the same issue with people using "isn't" when "is not" was perfectly good. Language evolves, especially on the internet. It's become a staple phrase.
I'm usually a massive grammar Nazi, yet I have no problem with it. It's not like it's one of those phrases synonymous with terrible grammar and leet-speak. I've seen both eloquent and borderline-illiterate people use it alike. Yes, "in summation" works just as well, but Tl;dr is now fine too.
Many years ago, people had the same issue with people using "isn't" when "is not" was perfectly good. Language evolves, especially on the internet. It's become a staple phrase.
If you're familiar with java, this may help
Think of it this way, tl;dr is like a try-catch block. Users that would have otherwise thrown a tl;dr exception now read the summary that you've posted instead, making them come up with a semi-meaningful response, or no response. Either way, you're catching the problem's exceptions.
Think of it this way, tl;dr is like a try-catch block. Users that would have otherwise thrown a tl;dr exception now read the summary that you've posted instead, making them come up with a semi-meaningful response, or no response. Either way, you're catching the problem's exceptions.
Done.Wolfram23 said:
This is now forum LAW.
While we are at it, can we please get on with taking posting privaleges away from the morons who type some stupid response followed by /thread?
You don't get to /thread yourself. Not how it works. Note the 30 people who posted after. Clearly the thread was not /.
I don't believe I ever have use TL;DR but I think I shall try to find ways that I can just to spite you. I personally don't like txt speak but I don't get up on a soap box and holler at people who do because it's not hurting me or causing me anything more than mild annoyance.
If you do use txt speak, I won't read your post cause I don't want to have to spend five minutes deciphering what the hell you're trying to say. My personal problem so I come up with my personal solution.
If you do use txt speak, I won't read your post cause I don't want to have to spend five minutes deciphering what the hell you're trying to say. My personal problem so I come up with my personal solution.
To be fair, TL;DR is a mostly Internet-related phrasing. I understand Wolfram's point, but I still do use that abbreviation from time to time myself, even if I obviously know better than to write an actual essay and finish it the way I would a post.
If I tried that, I'd not only befuddle my teachers, but probably lose whatever shreds of credibility I have, as a virtual unknown with a thing for an author most high-brow lit teachers won't even glance at.
TL;DR isn't an adequate indicative of the poster's ability to write, Wolfram. I understand your annoyance, but someone who uses and abuses shorthand in the context of a forum could still very well be the next recipient of the Man Booker Prize.
Seeing as you never know, I'd humbly suggest that a slightly more tolerant attitude would be great.
If I tried that, I'd not only befuddle my teachers, but probably lose whatever shreds of credibility I have, as a virtual unknown with a thing for an author most high-brow lit teachers won't even glance at.
TL;DR isn't an adequate indicative of the poster's ability to write, Wolfram. I understand your annoyance, but someone who uses and abuses shorthand in the context of a forum could still very well be the next recipient of the Man Booker Prize.
Seeing as you never know, I'd humbly suggest that a slightly more tolerant attitude would be great.
If I may direct your attention to the Know Your Meme page for TL;DR [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tldr] you will note that records of the term being used go back to 2003 with the first Urban Dictionary entry for it being posted on the 15th of Jan, 2003.Wolfram23 said:
TL;DR: Has been around for ages. Proof in link above.
I kind of agree. TL;DR in an OP just suggests to me that all that text contains nothing relevant and the OP isn't after a good discussion. On the other hand if people can join the conversation effectively just by reading the TL;DR then the OP was just being self indulgent writing a load of text.
People who reply with TL;DR are just frustrating. They want to say something but they can't be bothered to find out all about it first. That's just idiotic.
People who reply with TL;DR are just frustrating. They want to say something but they can't be bothered to find out all about it first. That's just idiotic.
I have never ended a topic I started with a short summation beginning with TL;DR. Never wanted too, until now. Now that you OP have told me I can't my desire to do so is strong.
It is strong because I can, and since I can I wish to show you just how stupid it is to try and force your petty desires upon everyone else.
It is strong because I can, and since I can I wish to show you just how stupid it is to try and force your petty desires upon everyone else.